McCain/Obama: 41 to 48%; McCain/Hillary: 46 to 46%

[New Dawn]

Hillary is tied with McLame in the latest Time poll. Obama, on the other hand, leads him by 7 points in the same poll.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

[ingac70]

1. That doesn't suprise me in the least. n/t.

[scheming daemons]

2. It's not really opinion anymore... it's fact.....

Obama gives us the best chance to beat McCain.

There's no doubt, really.

Hillary can't attract independents or moderate Repukes. Obama can.

Both Obama *AND* Hillary would get 90%+ of the Democratic vote though..... and Obama would turn out more voters, since he's clearly the driving force that is expanding the party.

[LisaL]

11. It's just silly. Why even have an election if those polls were

accurate? Furthermore, to win a general election, one must win a number of states, and not a popular vote.

[Double T]

3. MORE BS from obama central.

[Drunken Irishman]

8. Yes, TIME is owned by Obama.

[Blue_In_AK]

4. This is the one and only reason

why I would support Obama over Clinton (since I could care otherwise). I think now that the republicans have their candidate, our two need to take a serious look at who can really beat the old guy. I know that would be hard for Hillary to swallow, but the bottom line is we must win the presidency. There needs to be a lot of polling done (not that polls are always right, as we've learned).

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. And Zogby had Obama up by 13 in California.

[Drunken Irishman]

9. This isn't Zogby.

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. Oh, BETTER than Zogby!

:rofl:

[Drunken Irishman]

17. Heh, next time a pro-Hillary poll is posted, I expect you to be in there attacking it, ok?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4457354

I checked this thread, but hm, you didn't chime in.

Better go laugh at that poll, too.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. You'll have to do better than that. Polls are shit.

[Drunken Irishman]

21. And yet, you seem to camp out in polls only showing Obama doing well.

Go spew this shit in Clinton threads as well.

I agree, polls should be taken with a grain of salt. However, you can't say one poll's fault proves another.

[The_Casual_Observer]

22. Hard to resist completely absurd postings about meaningless polls!

Sorry to offend your ass!

[Drunken Irishman]

23. I'm not offended, I just want to know why you pick only pro-Obama polls to laugh at?

[totodeinhere]

6. I'm an Obama supporter, but...

these early polls are meaningless.

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

10. True, but polls in 2000 showed McCain would have killed Gore.

Something about McCain make indie's go ga-ga and DINO's hot for some maverick action.

[JackORoses]

7. It's things like this that will help the Superdelegates make up their mind

[LisaL]

12. Oh give me a break.

A poll of a thousand voters nationwide is somehow going to predict who is more likely to win general election, where one has to win states, not popular vote?
Right.

[JackORoses]

26. it's not the first poll that says this. they're smart, they'll figure it out.

[CK_John]

13. Most guys his age are happy to make it to their next SS check date. This is a guy

the bank made him take out insurance for a short term loan. Give it a break.

[TexasObserver]

15. doesn't suprise me

[cloudythescribbler]

16. If the full range of polls consistently show Obama outperforming HRC against McCain --

then even if it were the ONLY reason to support Obama, it would be more than sufficient. What's the point of nominating Hillary Clinton only to end up with an unreconstructed hawk in the White House?

I would add that another factor -- which also goes in Obama's favor -- is the question of which candidate tends to gain the most popularity over time. Hillary is well known and those who really oppose her are rarely going to be converted. While Obama, as a "new face" (remember that in the General Election, relative to the primaries, you have the people voting who did NOT vote in the primaries and don't involve themselves nearly as much in politics. They in turn will know HRC more at the start, and get to know Obama more over time. Obama has CLEARLY shown that he overall tends to gain in popularity over time.

This is all separate from who would be the better president. But that issue is also highly debatable -- again I'd say Obama, with a strong sense that a Clinton Democrat is a Clinton Democrat, and much of what both candidates say is really only meaningful (eg concern about not having unbridled international trade) on Obama's part. But again, the whole issue is highly speculative and debatable.

IF THE EVIDENCE SHOWS OBAMA TO BE LIKELY TO BE THE STRONGER CANDIDATE, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS OUGHT TO RECONSIDER!!!!!!!!!

[LisaL]

18. He will need to win states. Not popular vote.

So, those polls are useless.

[New Dawn]

24. As an ex-Kucinich, ex-Edwards supporter...

And currently a Mike Gravel supporter, polls like this have made me decide to make Obama my second choice at the caucus this weekend.

[mtnsnake]

19. Take this poll after the primaries are over & Hillary crushes everone

If Obama were to win the nod, then people would take him more seriously in the polls and they'd vote him down about 15 points. McCain would run away with it then.

[seafan]

25. Obama will likely win more independents, white males and AfrAmericans than Clinton, against McCain.

There comes a point when we need to face the music.

[New Dawn]

27. I agree, I think Obama is the only candidate with a chance to defeat McLame