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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:27 PM
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Breaking: Hillary Clinton goes to War with the Mainstream Media for Aiding Bush's Rush to War!
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 02:27 PM by Bread and Circus
Now that would have been a good headline back in 2002 and Early 2003.

Too bad, Clinton's remarks at the time were in support of the war.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:28 PM
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1. talk about closing the door after the horse is out...has she appologized or said that she was wrong?
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:30 PM
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3. What he said ^^^
n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:00 PM
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17. What Popul said that Night Watcher said
I mean, honestly.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:06 PM
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21. I think the post was intended as a joke
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:28 PM
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2. But she didn't KNOW
they were going to actually GO to war...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:33 PM
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4. Just because they SAID that they would back in 98, and sent
close to a half-million troops to Kuwait, that didn't mean he was actually going to USE them.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:42 PM
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8. I'm assuming that's sarcasm...
My teeth hurt every time I hear some clown say 'nobody thought he would take that power and use it like that' or however they word that particular horse shit.

If you weren't being sarcastic...well I'm sorry, ain't a lot I can do for you. Sorry.
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:34 PM
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5. Tortured Logic and excuses
When you vote in favor of "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002", it's hard to argue that you didn't intend to authroize the Iraq War.

Just like when you receive a briefing entitled "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike In the United States", it's hard to argue "No one could have predicted..."
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:38 PM
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7. Oh wait, so just because she also signed on to the Kyl/LIEberman
bill declaring Iran as a terrorist state and if Bush decides to invade there it'll also be Hillary Clinton's fault? What kind of logic is THAT?
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:49 PM
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12. you can't be serious...
I just don't want to do this with you. I'll vote for her if necessary, but please please please don't insult everyone's intelligence. Please.
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:56 PM
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13. Yeah, I don't seen any danger in Kyl Lieberman (sarcasm)
It is the sense of the Senate...
(3) that it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran...
(4) to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments, in support of the policy described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies;



Yeah. I can't imagine that this would be a signal to the Whitehouse that the Senate supports the use of military force against Iran.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:34 PM
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6. and for aiding the Swiftliars and for aiding Bush and McCain's smears


Here's Hillary going to war against the media smears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:45 PM
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9. Why does she continue to attack those for making the same...
...mistakes she's made? It seems an odd logic to me.
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:45 PM
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10. Yes, she supported the war at the time.
And now, in 2008, whose Iraq policy statement actually argues that we need to keep additional troops there, in order to "continue to strike at al Qaeda in Iraq"? (emphasis mine) link: http://www.barackobama.com/2007/09/12/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_23.php

In 2008, only one Democratic candidate is continuing to push right-wing talking points about Iraq.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:47 PM
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11. She is using triangulating language presenting her "plan" for withdrawal.
She said yesterday in a stump speech that she wants to see the troops coming home within 60 days. I think it's meant to sound like she will bring troops within 60 days, but that is not the case. She plans to convene a panel on Day #1 ;) to discuss withdrawal to maybe begin within 60 days, but then again she refused to be pinned down on when exactly troops will be out. Zogby on 12-30-07 on Washington Journal said the rightwing ideologues, i.e., neocons, are rooting for Hillary. Now we know why.

Obama on the other hand promises troops out within 16 months (at the rate of one to two battalions per month, a concept coapted by Hillary, a safe withdrawal rate per the boys at the Pentagon).

Want out Iraq? Hillary is not your girl.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:58 PM
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14. Actually, it's about the slur on her daughter. Nice try @hole.
Afraid Hillary's going to get some "free" coverage?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:58 PM
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15. Too bad Obama wasn't even a Senator at the time. His stance on the war means NOTHING when he
wasn't looking at the same garbage as the senate was. He wasn't faced with a vote. Since he has voted in lockstep with HILLARY on the IW funding...we will just have to assume he too would have voted for the iWR.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:00 PM
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18. He didn't need to be in the Senate to know it
was a bad idea. There were democrats in the Senate who knew it was bad idea. You act like everyone went along with Bush
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:02 PM
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26. How do YOU know he would have voted against it given all the bogus Intel the Senate
was fed by Cheney and the gang? He wouldn't have. It's illogical to compare him being against the war when he wasn't in the Senate at the time. It's a bullshit argument.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:02 PM
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19. Too bad that Hillary didn't listen to the other Senators who detected a problem.
Too bad she took Bush's word over theirs.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:59 PM
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24. Yes it is. That still doesn't change the fact that Obama wasn't even in the Senate at the time!
There's no comparison.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:04 PM
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20. He came out strongly against it when he didn't have to, and in a major city that was considered
a potential terrorist target. He has judgment and guts.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:58 PM
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23. Anyone could have done that. That's nothing. He wasn't faced with the same choice
as she was and him using this as his MAIN campaign meme...is ridiculous. I was against the war before the vote too. I knew it was BOGUS, but I also didn't see all the intelligence the Senate was force-fed. Just because he was against the war does NOT put him on the same playing field as a Senator serving at the time of the vote. That's just bullshit.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:02 PM
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25. Anybody could have; how many did? nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:03 PM
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27. It doesn't matter. They weren't in the Senate like she was and neither was Obama. It's a bogus
argument.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:59 PM
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16. Now shes blaming the media. Blame yourself for YOUR VOTE
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:08 PM
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22. We'll see how the media reacts to this display of hutzpah
:popcorn:
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