David Shuster, Keith Olbermann. The only two on TV who speak the truth - Being vilified on DU

[mudesi]

Unbelievable. I never thought I'd see the day. Never.

All because the Hillary Clinton supporters can't handle the truth.

Tell you what. Fire Shuster and cancel Olbermann. Let O'Reilly and Hannity and Cavuto and Scarborough and Matthews have all the viewers. Who needs real journalists speaking truth to power when they don't repeat your candidate's spin?

Shame on Clinton for capitalizing on Shuster's slip of the tongue. Make no mistake, that's all it was. A slip of the tongue that happens to the best of us. I seriously doubt he meant to call Chelsea Clinton a prostitute.

But hey, as long as it helps the DLC establishment corporate candidate retain power. Because that's what this is all about.

[Mz Pip]

1. What did Keith do?

I must have missed something.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[mudesi]

7. Apparently, he hasn't been "nice" to Hillary Clinton

All of a sudden, people (Clinton supporters) are not liking Mr. Olbermann. The posts are there, but I can't link to them because that would be a call out.

[VolcanoJen]

2. It was absolutely necessary for Schuster to apologize, even twice.

But suspension is harsh, I think.

And honestly, any Democrat that remembers his excellent, thorough (and LONE) coverage of Valerie Plame/Scooter Libby should mourn the temporary loss of David Schuster. I'm going to miss watching him beat up on that insufferable jackass Joe Scarborough every morning. :-(

[mudesi]

36. Exactly what I'm talking about (nm)

:thumbsup:

[TexasObserver]

3. Fox and Rupert are big backers of Hillary.

The last thing they want is to run against Obama, who won't even return their phone calls.

[GreenTea]

15. Fox and Rupert are big backers of Hillary.

Fox and Rupert Murdoch are big backers of Hillary.

Enough said.

[leveymg]

45. Second that, TO.

Desperate times for Rupert. He's even hedging his bets by carrying the Sibel story.

[TexasObserver]

52. he knows the Clintons will make deals with him

If they'll go to bed with oil men and dictators, they won't have a problem spooning with Rupert.

[lligrd]

4. I Must Have Missed It Too

As far as being villified on DU, is there anyone that hasn't?

[sidwill]

5. Yep, Shuster was one who called out Bush on his trash on a

nightly basis.

Now he's gone.

Looks like we are stuck with the likes of Nora O'Donnell and Mornin Joe instead.

Hooray!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

6. Shuster Crossed A Line. It Was A Bad Mistake. People Got Angry. Get Over It.

[mudesi]

13. No he didn't, but I'm not talking about that anyway

I'm talking about the fact that people here have no problem with his suspension, even though has has been among the very few people on television to actually report the truth.

And there are people against Olbermann, as well.

I'm actually a little surprised that you, OPERATIONMINDCRIME, think he crossed a line. Normally you give these types of slip of the tongue incidents the benefit of the doubt.

Of course, I'm well aware that you're a partisan Clinton supporter.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

24. He Absolutely Crossed A Line. A Suspension May Be A Bit Rough, But He Still Crossed A Line.

And though you pretend to be aware of a lot of things, you most often are found to in fact be ignorant of those things.

For example, I have made it more than clear that I support both Hillary and Obama, though I pick Hillary over him. I have made it clear that I'm proud of them both and think they'd both be great. So to call me a partisan Clinton supporter just shows how narrow minded and misguided you are.

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. So you condone him saying what he said about Chelsea...which was a sexist, hateful thing to say?

:grr:

[mudesi]

20. It was a mistake. He apologized.

But hey, let's go all the way and take one of the very few truth tellers in the mainstream media off the air!

:crazy:

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. He shouldn't have said what he said. If he doesn't pay for it, he will continue doing it.

At least he wasn't FIRED. He was only suspended. Maybe he'll watch what he says from now on.

[Dogmudgeon]

9. Shuster will apologize. Chelsea will forgive him. It will work out.

The DLC tinfoil is not required for this.

But no matter, Obama is going to get slammed for it, just as Hillary gets slammed for her surrogates' misbehavior.

--p!

[HughMoran]

10. Schuster pulled a Tweety - he had to be taken to task

After a day or two, all will be forgotten.

[Mags]

11. Are you really meaning what you are posting?

You think it's ok to call her a pimp?

[mudesi]

23. IT WAS A SLIP OF THE TONGUE AND HE IS APOLOGIZING

What more do you want? That is my point here.

[Mags]

44. What did you want for Imus?

[SoFlaJet]

12. Great post LS

It's why so many of us are turning off to the Clinton/Rove-type tactics to divide and TRY TO conquer...I'm starting to feel for her the way I feel to the likes of Delay, Cheney Bush and McCain

[tridim]

14. It's stunning what I'm reading here today

My jaw is still on the floor.

[golddigger]

55. Same here tridim, I think I will take a couple days off from DU...

If this was said about Obama's wife they would be asking for his head on a platter.

[Avalux]

16. Hillary supporters remind me a lot of Bush supporters. It's a very curious thing.

Before the primaries started, these MSNBC guys were the only example of balance we had on cable news. Now that they are criticizing Hillary, her supporters turn into attack dogs. Was Shuster wrong? Yes, he shouldn't have said what he did. He certainly doesn't deserve to be fired however; he's one of the best reporters out there.

[Bucky]

17. I would defend Shuster's comment if, say, Chelsea Clinton were an actual prostitute.

Or let's say her mother fitted her out with spinner hub caps and a pair of fuzzy dice hanging off her nose.
What Chelsea was doing is called "campaigning" when the Romney boys do it. So how is it "pimping" when a Clinton girl does it?

I won't hold him to a lesser standard. He needs to be beat up for a couple of days over this. If he's a good journalist, the storm will die out soon enough.

[durrrty libby]

18. If Shuster had said Mrs Obama had been pimped out, he would be

run out of town as a racist. Try some perspective and honesty

[newmajority]

19. I understand why people are pissed at Shuster, but what did Keith do?

Did he fail to bow down and kiss Queen Hillary's feet or something?

[K Gardner]

26. In a word, Yes.

[laststeamtrain]

21. You must be in the KO cult.

:sarcasm:

[louis-t]

22. Slip of the tongue?

What then was he trying to say? Was he trying to say "primping"? "Pampering" maybe? Maybe he just meant to say she's 'using' her daughter. The whole idea behind the question is irrelevant, not productive, and designed to be negative. Why did he feel he had to go down that path anyway? I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't blame her for saying "enough".

[LittleClarkie]

25. I don't see suggesting Chealsea is being pimped as truth.

But I also haven't liked what people have had to say about Keith around here merely because he disagrees with them on the candidate. Disagreeing with him doesn't mean he's smearing Clinton, or jumped the shark, or that he should shut up.

I also can't see him having such a poor choice of words as Shuster.

[Blue_In_AK]

27. I like David Shuster as much as the next person

but it really was a pretty egregious slip. As the mother of three daughters, I don't like the idea of anybody uses the phrase "pimp her out," when Chelsea was only offering support to her mother. Maybe a slip of the tongue, but he should have known better.

[DemGa]

28. What "truth"??????......nt

[joshcryer]

29. If he asked if Obama was pimping out Michelle, would you be responding the same way?

I highly doubt it.

[mudesi]

33. YES I WOULD

Because this is about one of the very few actual journalists on television being taken off the air. WIth all the disgusting things that come out of Hannity's mouth on a nightly basis deliberately, why is it that the truth tellers are the ones to be fired/suspended for accidental foot in mouth moments?

And DUers who are so blinded by their Clinton partisanship eat it right up.

[joshcryer]

35. You're the *first* Obama supporter to say that.

All others failed to respond to this question.

[Pale Blue Dot]

30. I'm as anti-Hilary as they come here on DU

And Shuster was wrong. He deserved what he got.

[liberal N proud]

31. Makes you wonder if this is DU anymore

It is sort of a twilight zone thing, I woke up one morning and DU switched mentality with the Free Republic.

Or did all of the freepers just come over here for primary season to create havoc.


Que the twilight theme

[IndianaGreen]

32. Wait until the Clintons get back in the White House and you will taste a new flavour of fascism

Their rabid supporters will demonize and vilify the peace movement, and the Clintons will use the same powers Bush usurped for himself for their own purposes.

The republic will not be restored, and there will no peace in our time!

[Donnachaidh]

53. This is so wrong on so many levels

Fascism?

I'm not sure what surprises me more -- the desperation levels one has to reach to call someone in their own party this, or just how IGNORANT a comment this is.

Someone needs a nap. :wow:

[IndianaGreen]

61. Hillary's Kyl-Lieberman vote was a gift to Dick Cheney

and people will die on account of that reckless neocon-like vote!

[joeybee12]

34. Keep posting shit like this and your cult status grows!

You Obama supporters just can't see straight, can you?

[Blue State Bandit]

37. To be Pimped (definition as used by Shuster)-

def .2- to have been used and abused

You've been pimped and don't even know it!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pimped

I would hope anyone that would be using this as

another attempt to bring sexism into this debate,

learn somthing before they get pimped (def 1. To utterly destroy your competition)

[dugggy]

38. Shuster absolutely deserved it. Good riddance!

If Keith follows the same path he will be a goner too.

[mudesi]

43. Good riddance indeed!

Even though he was possibly the only reporter in all of cable news, besides Olbermann, to consistently report on the Valarie Plame scandal in an honest and objective manner?

Like I said. Let's give O'Reilly all the air time! He was amazed that black people eat dinner without rapping. And he meant it. No suspension? No apology? No reprimand? No problem!

[dugggy]

57. There is a difference

Shuster is a reporter. O"reilly is a commentator.
A reporter has to report, not editorialize.

[Catherine Vincent]

39. Keith didn't do anything.

The Obama supporters here are claiming he's a Clinton shill. Now all of a sudden Obama supporters are saying he's an Obama shill. I'm so confused. :crazy:

[sidwill]

40. Shuster will be gone, but the RW spin doctors who say far worse stay.

That Gibson guy, Oreilly, Wallace, Rush never get suspended they just carry on.

Only one of the few true critics gets slammed.

[dugggy]

58. O'reilly, Limbaugh etc. are NOT reporters

They are commentators. They can editorialize.
A report such as Shuster has to report, WITHOUT BIAS.

[sidwill]

41. Shuster will be gone, but the RW spin doctors who say far worse stay.

That Gibson guy, Oreilly, Wallace, Rush never get suspended they just carry on.

Only one of the few true critics gets slammed.

[femrap]

42. Disrespecting women is now so

mainstream and commonplace that referring to women as whores or prostitutes in slang language (hos, pimped out) is OOPS....a slip of the tongue.

To put the shoe on the other foot, how would males like it if women referred to them as impots, flacids, short ones, 3 incher, nonfeeler, lil' boy, and itsy?

Just admit that Shuster made a mistake...why defend him? You like having the power as to what can be said about women? Your insecurity may be showing.

[mod mom]

46. WRITE MSNBC IN SUPPORT OF SHUSTER. (remember his work on Scooter Libby & other

important cases!)

[e-mail]

[AtomicKitten]

47. He could have phrased it better, but he does have a point.

Shuster thought some of the stuff Chelsea is doing is inappropriate:

http://connpolitics.tv/index.php/2008/02/05/chelsea-at-the-polling-place
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Superdelegate_envy.html

[mod mom]

48. PLS write MSNBC-He's a great reporter!

[e-mail]

Look at some of the stuff Tweety, or bow-boy or Joe Scarborough has said and never got suspended!

[AtomicKitten]

50. done

It's funny that DU claims to be for progressive ideals, yet the effort to shut down that which some don't want to hear is pretty breathtaking.

[AZBlue]

59. Well, truth be told, I have to question the progressiveness

of those who don't want to hear it. I think their comments are fairly telling.

[JimboDem]

62. Done. Thanks for the link. n/t.

[in_cog_ni_to]

51. ALL candidates and their staffers call Super Delegates to sure up their votes.

If that's what he was miffed about, he needs to get a life. Who is he to judge? He's a damn JOURNALIST. He's suppose to report the freakin' news and keep his opinions to himself. Sheesh.

[IndieLeft]

54. Don't you know? You have to BOW to Queen Clinton.

Or she'll waterboard you.

Oh... Sorry, that was King Bush.

[bbgrunt]

56. Shuster is on OUR side. This feels like

Hillary saying John Kerry's "joke" slip of the tongue was inappropriate. They are soooooo fast to jump on anyone on their own side who gets out of line----but WHAT are they doing about the Chimp?

This is utter nonsense meant to distract and divide. People on DU should accept Shuster's apology and move on--not waste time vilifying him.

[Whisp]

60. ugh. sounds like the Clintons are going after what little liberal media there is out there.

having second thoughts now. this job on him looks preditory to me now.

[Andromeda]

63. Keith Olbermann just apologized

for Schuster about the pimping comment. Schuster has been suspended.

Schuster did a stupid thing and MSNBC recognizes his comment was way out of line.

That's all well and good but MSNBC and CNN have created the atmosphere of "anything goes" where the Clintons are concerned. The MSM have been tripping over each other in their eagerness to bash Hillary or Bill---now it's Chelsea.

Schuster is a prick. When he called Hillary's laugh a "cackle" that made me burn too but there was no retraction and he never apologized---'cause that was the "talking point" for the day.

Anything goes where the Clintons are concerned. If Hillary is criticized for her policies, the IWR or anything else, it's a legitimate criticism. I don't agree with beating the IWR horse to death because I'm not a one-issue voter. I look at the whole person.

Making fun of somebody's laugh or the way they look, etc. goes beyond the pale and using the word "pimp" associated with Chelsea is unforgivable.

I'm sure Schuster won't be fired for this---but I wish he was.