Edwards supporters, some perspective please. Your take on the Chelsea incident.

[LittleClarkie]

Worth the outrage? Hillary campaign reacting appropriately? Shuster punished appropriately?

Or not so much?

I trust you guys to see through the bullshit.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. What Shuster said sucked. To banish him from the airwaves is wrong...

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. He wasn't BANISHED! He was suspended.

And he deserved to be suspended for his sexist remark.

[Cooley Hurd]

29. I'm in agreement...

[Cooley Hurd]

69. Yes he does - you'll find no argument from me.

[Pale Blue Dot]

2. I already made my comment here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4486829&mesg_id=4486829

Please note that I do not comment on the Hillary campaign's reaction, JUST on Shuster's suspension.

[originalpckelly]

3. Personally, I won't be happy until I see David Shuster burning on a cross.

It should be MSNBC's new logo, along with a scarlet "C" for insulting Her Majesty, Princess Chelsea.

[caligirl]

19. LOL

[sandnsea]

4. Edwards supporters have no objectivity

They have split between those who have based Obama because they thought it would help get him out of the election to those who have done the same to Hillary. Half the shit that was stirred up between Obama and Clinton was started by John Edwards himself. The Edwards worship is worse than the perceived Obama worship.

[Beaverhausen]

8. I have read some happy horseshit on this website but this takes the cake

blaming Edwards for what is transpiring between obama and hillary? OK :eyes:

For the record, this Edwards supporter couldn't care less. People are out there living on the streets, eating out of garbage cans.

COULD WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES!!!

[pauldg0]

64. Your absolutely right........

...these two should not be nominee's for their party...this is a travisty....how in the world is this country going to pull itself together when you have to democrats fighting constantly like this..I am just fed up with them.

If God could only bring John Edwards back!!!!

[Shine]

10. I disagree with your assessment of Edwards being responsible for the "shit stirred up"

that seems a bit unfair to me. On the contrary, I think he did an admirable job sticking to discussing the issues while the other two sniped away at each other.

I'm a supporter of his, but I don't "worship" him.

The truth is, around here, there's very little objectivity...regardless of which candidate is being discussed. :D

[saracat]

13. Now this is the silliest post ever.It speaks to who you are. Talk about a stretch

and AFAIK, this post wasn't even dorected at you? Why are you sticking your nose in? Sheesh.

[glowing]

15. No, its not worship.. its realizing the policies and seeing that those

policies would help the people who need it desperately... It wasn't elevating the man, it was elevating the platform...

The comment was ill advised, but probably advised by MSNBC. I think its a bit stupid, considering they still let Coulter, Limpballs, and O'Reilly on the airwaves.. but oh, well.

[citizen snips]

23. Bullshit

I can't stand these fucking generalizations.

[Tennessee Gal]

38. That is totally unfounded and ridiculous.

[Moochy]

50. sandnsea

posts another unfounded opinion....

[Inspired]

59. You crack me up! You blame Edwards?

:rofl:

[KitchenWitch]

77. stupidest post today.

:eyes:

[Nite Owl]

5. He apologized

that should be enough. I like Shuster and am glad when he is subbing for someone. Time to move on.

[ClassWarrior]

6. He's a good reporter who made a boneheaded mistake and apologized.

We all make plenty of those, only not quite so publically (Bill Clinton...), and we all deserve forgiveness for them.

:hi: LC...

NGU.

[TexasObserver]

7. it's yet another entirely contrived event by the Clintons

They are constantly trying to get the focus on their pain, their burden, the things they have to endure. They are sympathy sponges, who use faux victimization as a strategem.

David Schuster has been more fair with the Clintons than anyone on cable news, consistently. He was factually correct. They are and were pimping her for their POLITICAL purposes. No one suggested that Bill was renting her out by the hour, although I wouldn't put it past HIM. I'm sure Chelsea would never have any part of it, but the comment was about Bill and Hillary, not Chelsea. It was about THEM and they disgusting ways. They'll do anything, anything to gain one day's TV coverage that they think helps whatever pathetic, sleazy scam they're running that day.

[Hobarticus]

9. Said it before, so I'll just cut n' paste...

Regardless of who your candidate is, it is time for the MSM to learn that there's a new sheriff in town, and this kind of off-the-cuff obnoxious comment is no longer acceptable.

No matter who wins the nom, the MSM needs to learn some fucking manners, ricky-ticky. Shock-jock bullshit is NOT legitimate political discourse.

I'm all for it. If Obama gets the nom, he'll have to deal with these asshats that pass for journalists, these days. I can't understand why HRC is getting flak for this, at all. Used to be a time when a Dem standing up for themselves drew cheers.

As for him getting suspended, that's MSNBC's decision to make, not mine. HRC didn't make it. It was a business decision and NBC has the right to make it. But if it takes one of their own to get thrown under the bus to make an example, and busts the MSM for being a bunch of smarmy wiseasses, then again, I'm all for it.

[melody]

11. I think it was ludicrous to be angry at him. He clearly meant it metaphorically - Chelsea is grown

She's an adult woman, she's not the little girl people used to pick on. Shuster merely suggested they were
"pimping her out" in the same way my son says he's "pimping out" his car to friends.

It's a poor choice of word, but it certainly isn't a firing or even suspension offense. Get real.

[BlackVelvet04]

24. that's not using the word in the same context at all. n/t

[melody]

33. The context he used was quite specific -- they were pimping her out = using her to work

The word choice was unfortunate, but all the indignation is just the result of a bunch of political Quixotes
desperately seeking windmills.

[BlackVelvet04]

34. No it's a bunch of women who are sick of sexist,

disrespectful language from MSM hacks.

[melody]

35. Bull -- it's not sexist in the least. I'm a feminist and I think the comment was innocent if dumb

I think everyone bitching here is looking for a reason to be irate.

[BlackVelvet04]

71. Yeah, I can tell how feminist you are with the bitching comment...

:crazy: Feminist is as feminist does.

[flyarm]

36. the word choice was saying the former Presidents daughter is a whore..

we all know what a pimp is..and we all know damn well what pimping someone out means..

stop with the re-writing to suit yourself..every mother should be angry at that and every woman should be!

it was sexist..and it was disgusting..

we don't need people here reinterpreting it..we get what he said and how he meant it!

fly

[melody]

37. That's how you're taking it because you want to

That isn't how it was meant.

[flyarm]

43. do you read minds too? how do you know what he meant..i can't read minds..but i damn well

know what words came out of his mouth and i don't need a dictionary to interpret it ..and i don't need you to interpret it for me!!

I know what he said..and his bosses know what he said and demanded he apologize ..and they thought it was bad enough to suspend him.

and just now Keith apologized for Shuster..you don't apologize and get suspended for nothing..

and i think i know since my hubby is a broadcaster..but in sports..my hubby's contracts would have been voided for anything like that!

end of story.

fly

oh and pssss..i was campaigning for Edwards..i have no dog in this fight..i don't like either of the candidates that are left.

[melody]

56. I think an apology was in order -- but that is all n/t

[LittleClarkie]

40. Oh sure. He meant that they were letting the Super Delegates sleep with Chelsea.

Yeah.

[ClassWarrior]

47. The fact that you insist on assigning the worst possible meaning...

...out of a range of meanings says a lot about your rigid judgementalism.

NGU.

[flyarm]

48. why don't you give us your interpretation of a pimps job?

please ..give us your definition of a pimp and a pimps job.

eom

[LittleClarkie]

54. Do you REALLY think Schuster was saying that the Clintons were having delegates SLEEP WITH HER?

How else does your interpretation fit?

[flyarm]

60. nooooooooooo..but his reference was out of line and his choice of words was

disgusting..why would he use this word..

http://reference.aol.com/dictionary?dword=pimp&book=dic...

Main Entry: 1pimp
Function: noun
Pronunciation: 'pimp
Etymology: origin unknown
: a man who solicits clients for a prostitute

why?

i don't know why..i don't read minds..but i know had it been my daughter i would have been damn pissed..why didn't he say Romney's boys were being pimped doing the same thing? it was sexist..it was disgraceful..and he was punished for it..if it was ..just nothing... he would not have had to apologize or been suspended.

it was Shuster's words..but i know what the definition of the word is and you would have to ask him what he meant by using the word.

fly

[LittleClarkie]

66. And also

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06162/697359-51.stm


"To pimp also mean to heavily promote something or take advantage of someone.

Example, "They really pimped that new show on ABC." Or, "They made you work late but didn't pay any over time? They really pimped you."

I submit the first example is at least as likely an answer.

[flyarm]

72. hey i didn't ask the frigging question..why does anyone ask a question if they don't want our

freaking answers..don't put words in my mouth, i answered my honest answer to a question that was asked..go beat up your dog..i am not at your disposal!!

wtf is going on here..is no one allowed to answer questions anymore with you obama people(???)??????????

i think i need a serious vacation from du..before Obama, i used to be able to come here and ask and answer questions without getting my brains beat out....i have about had it with your ilk!

this is beyond getting old ..it is total bullshit..don't ask a question that needs an opinion as an answer... if you don't want a fucking opinion and answer!

fly..over and out of this place till sanity returns!

[LittleClarkie]

73. Dude, you offered your opinion, and I thank you. But I didn't think, having asked the question...

I couldn't offer an alternative take, or discuss you opinion in any way. That's all I'm doing, suggesting and discussing. Where did I say I didn't want your opinion or answer?

What's the hubbub?

Maybe you should take a break. I have done that on occasion when this place got to be too much.

Because from my point of view, I've done nothing to you, and you just freaked out all over me.

I'm sorry you wanted me to take your opinion in silence. But just because I ask for opinions doesn't mean I'm swallowing them all whole with no thought. I just wanted some feedback and the take of Edwards supporters because I know you guys are often the referees around here, and I trust many of your opinions.

Geez, dude.

[ClassWarrior]

70. Okay, if you're not rigidly judgemental, then you're acting deliberately oblique...

...to score political points for your candidate.

So which is it?

NGU.

[flyarm]

75. I answered a question addressed to edwards supporters..

I do not support either of the candidates still in play although i will vote for the nominee holding my nose.

I am not alone feeling as i do about what Shuster said.I have always admired Shuster..i believe he has shown his bias in many ways but this was deplorable.He never made these kinds of comments about John Edwards daughter on the campaign trail doing the exact same thing..and he never made the same disparaging remarks about Romney's sons..

The mess at MSNBC: "A history of objectionable comments to and about women"
Media Matters for America: The mess at MSNBC
Jamison Foser

Three weeks ago, in the wake of Chris Matthews' quasi-apology for one of his countless objectionable comments about women in general and Hillary Clinton specifically, I argued that Matthews' apology was not enough. Neither Matthews nor MSNBC had acknowledged that the problem ran far deeper than one comment by Matthews -- and their failure to make such an acknowledgement was an ominous sign that the apology would not be accompanied by a change in behavior, no matter how forcefully Matthews insisted: "I get it." So what has happened in those three weeks?...Matthews' MSNBC colleagues leapt to his defense. Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough and reporter David Shuster lashed out; Scarborough declaring it "offensive" and "outrageous" that Matthews had to apologize, and Shuster adding "this is absolutely infuriating, to see the way these groups used him for pure political gain is absolutely infuriating."...Then, after defending their colleague, it was back to business as usual for NBC/MSNBC reporters.

Tim Russert suggested that there is irony in a "self-avowed feminist" having shown "some emotion," as though feminists are the dour, humorless beings Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson think they are....And then there's MSNBC host Tucker Carlson, who has described Hillary Clinton as "whining" and suggested the reason there are so few women in Congress is that "most women are so sensible, they don't want to get involved in something as stupid as politics" and said of Clinton, "When she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs," and described her as "castrating, overbearing, and scary."...On January 23, an (all-male) Morning Joe panel laughed along as Mike Barnicle compared Hillary Clinton to "everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court."

Then on January 30, Joe Scarborough told co-host Mika Brzezinski, "Mika, don't make me backhand you."

On February 4, Matthews led a panel discussion of what the Associated Press described as Clinton's "emotional reunion Monday with a colleague from the early days of her legal career as a child advocate." The discussion featured a suggestion that Clinton had cried on purpose in order to win votes the next day, a statement by Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson that "with some people it's sad movies ... with Hillary Clinton ... it's an impending primary. It just breaks her down." Even Chris Matthews seemed to understand that something might not be quite right about the obsessive focus on Clinton showing emotion; near the end of the discussion, he said, "I wonder what (sic) we're focusing more on this than we would if it were a male candidate."...

***

Most recently, David Shuster said on the February 7 edition of Tucker that "there's just something a little bit unseemly" about Chelsea Clinton contacting super delegates on behalf of her mother, adding, "Doesn't it seem like Chelsea's sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?"

This morning, Shuster offered a Matthews-esque quasi-apology for analogizing Chelsea Clinton to a prostitute. But, like Matthews, Shuster didn't seem to "get it." Shuster first claimed to have praised Chelsea Clinton on Tucker: "I said a lot of wonderful things about Chelsea. I praised her; I said Americans should be proud of her. ... as I said last night, everybody, all of us, love Chelsea Clinton." In fact, Shuster had not said Americans should be proud of her, or that "everybody, all of us, love Chelsea Clinton." Not even close.

Then Shuster reiterated that Chelsea Clinton's efforts on Hillary Clinton's behalf are "unseemly" -- though, again, he did not explain why they are unseemly, or whether it was unseemly for Mitt Romney's sons to campaign on his behalf. Finally, Shuster got to the real issue: "Last night, I used a phrase -- some slang about her efforts. I didn't think that people would take it literally, but some people have." That's just ridiculous. Nobody took Shuster's statement that Chelsea Clinton is "being pimped out" literally. Nobody. People were bothered that he analogized her to a prostitute, not that they thought he was actually saying she has sex in exchange for money....

This afternoon, NBC News President Steve Capus issued a statement calling Shuster's comments "irresponsible and inappropriate" and announcing that Shuster "has been suspended from appearing on all NBC News broadcasts" other than to make another apology, which aired tonight. Shuster then offered a more complete apology at the beginning of the February 8 edition of Tucker. Capus' statement is the best sign yet that NBC News is beginning to take seriously the lengthy pattern of inappropriate comments about women made by NBC and MSNBC reporters. (NBC News did not issue a statement about Matthews, allowing Matthews' overly narrow, on-air quasi-apology to stand as the closest thing to an official statement.) But apologies and statements and even suspensions don't mean anything unless they are followed by an actual change in behavior. Things didn't change at NBC/MSNBC after the Matthews controversy; hopefully they will this time....

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802080011?f=h_top

[ClassWarrior]

79. Ahhh, rigid judgementalism AND paranoia. Nice combination.

NGU.

[flyarm]

80. its called having an opinion..what are we not allowed an opinion anymore? ..who asked

the question me?? no..i didn't i answered a question..you have a problem with that..it was an opinion question..i gave my opinion..i didn't ask you your opinion of my opinion.

this is exactly why i don't even like to come to DU anymore..you Obama people have become pit bulls..and i sure don't like that either..and that too is my opinion..you do not do your candidate any favors..i don't like Hillary..and now you are making me despise obama..so good job for your candidate!

fly

[ClassWarrior]

81. I'm not an "Obama people." The OP asked for Edwards supporters, remember?

Wow, take a deep breath and calm down. Out of the two of us, I'm not the one looking like a pit bull.

And you have every right to an opinion. That doesn't make it a good opinion.

NGU.

[xultar]

51. But what if he'd said it about Obama and his wife.

[TexasObserver]

78. Yes, and the fact is they are pimping her out to hustle votes.

It's a metaphor, and it's an accurate one. That's why Hillary doesn't like it. She wants to be able to use Chelsea as a political player, but play King's X when politicos comment on it.

Does Hillary really think she can play the victim card to the nomination? She's done it so long, she doesn't know how else to be.

[DearAbby]

83. Did anyone call Romney's sons..MAN WHORES?

when they were campaigning for their father? What makes it acceptable to call females or infer they are prostitutes? Chelsea's age is not relevant.

[flyarm]

12. what Shuster said was wrong..it was disgraceful and not worthy of his chosen job.

this is dispicable..but he was following the MSNBC mantra..it's Obama or no-one to MSNBC!

and i say this not liking either of the two left standing..

just who is going to ask the questions of Obama? why is Shuster not asking questions about Obama..he has a bias..and it just stung him in the ass!

I am glad he was suspended..i wish more were suspended for not doing their job ..and being biased and not telling the damn truth!

fly

[Redbear]

14. I consider it like Biden's comment on Obama.

If he had thought about it, he would have used a different word.

He meant no ill will and a reprimand should be enough.

I think Hillary's people are exploiting it to try and force MSNBC to give them better coverage. Some will call that atrocious. Others will call it politics.

[saracat]

16. I think it wqas nasty, sexist and wrong.A suspension is warrented but

as he has apologized, I think that is enough.He shouldn't lose his job but a reprimans was definetely in order.

[caligirl]

17. Clinton should have called him personally and gotten his apology without

making a media event of it. Shuster shouldn't have used a street term, one used often without the suggested meaning, on air in a comment about a daughter. His on air apology was appropriate. He should not have been suspended and the threat of no debates on their network looks like grandstanding for attention. The apology was due but the campaign tweaked this too much for it to be seen as purely a concern for the treatment of a daughter.

[Evergreen Emerald]

22. they did, as I understand it and he refused, sending back a snarky e-mail

that was on another thread.

[caligirl]

32. Ohhhhhh... ego's do abound don't they.

[Cassandra]

18. Having come back late to this controversy...

I was wondering what was the big deal with Chelsea helping out and Digby indicates; nothing was out of the ordinary about it. http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/here-we-go-again-by-digby-i-have-taken.html

I thought the comment was disgusting and stupid, and now I see it was also pointless; that there's nothing particularly out of line with Chelsea making those calls. Hillary's campaign was right to call them on it, although that probably makes those 5 year olds try to shield their balls. Shuster should apologize thoroughly, not half-heartedly, but I don't think he needs to be fired. What he said wasn't the worst thing I've ever heard from this bunch.
Thanks to the DLC crowd around Hillary, I'm still favoring Obama, but that is my take on this.

[emilyg]

20. I'm for Clinton but find your post right-on.

[southernleftylady]

21. its not an outrage for goodness sakes!! There are so many BIGGER issues out there to be upset about!

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. The campaign acted appropriately and Shuster being suspended is appropriate

otherwise he would have continued his insults against her....just like Tweety's constant bashing of Hillary. It would still be going on if Media Matters hadn't confronted MSNBC about it.

[Blue_In_AK]

27. It was a stupid comment to make.

I like David Shuster, and perhaps an apology (which he has given) would be enough punishment, but I'm not too upset by the suspension as long as it's not permanent. He should have known better.

[Yael]

28. I couldn't care less one way or another

what sickens me is when things get blown out of proportion for political gain (by ANY camp).

[Norwood]

30. Shuster shouldn't have said what he said and does deserve some type of suspension

However, at the same time all of this over the top faux outrage by the Clinton campaign and their supporters is also despicable. Are they trying to drum up sympathy to get more exposure? Maybe so, maybe not but it sure as hell looks that way to me.

Shuster has been one of the few good guys in the media and should not be fired for one stupid comment. The suspension is enough, case closed, let it go.

[tired_old_fireman]

31. Only an asshole would insult a candidate's daughter like that

Maybe he didn't mean to refer to her as a prostitute, but it was a stupid comment. Anyone with children should be insulted by that type of comment.

Clinton was smart to take a stand on this. It makes me respect her because it shows her as someone who will stand up for her daughter. Chris Mathews said some pretty nasty stuff about both Hillary and Bill in the past, but it is wise they waited 'til Chelsea was attacked on MSNBC to really strike back.

I think it's important to remember that Obama will be on the receiving end of these types of attacks if he is the nominee and all democrats should unite no matter who we support to show that this style of personal attack reporting is unnaceptable.

[LittleClarkie]

39. His kids are not adults. His kids are not working the campaign

I felt the same when it was Elizabeth Edwards making comments, and then when people took offense and what she said, the answer was "How dare you attack a woman with cancer"

If you enter the fray, you are fair game. Perhaps not to thoughtless comments like this one, but to criticism in general. No fair then claiming "You shouldn't talk about someone's kid that way." She's not a kid anymore.

But she is a woman, and those were poorly chosen words.

[tired_old_fireman]

46. I'm not sure I understand your point

But, Shuster wasn't attacking anything Chelsea said. He called her a whore for campaigning for her mother-plain and simple. It doesn't matter if she's 2 or 72. That is inappropriate for a so called journalist.

[LittleClarkie]

52. But some people here are saying she's out of bounds because she's Clinton's kid.

No, it wouldn't have mattered if she was related or not.

Would it have been an okay comment if she hadn't been Clinton's kid, no.

And how do you think Schuster meant she was a whore? He didn't use that word. So you think Schuster was saying that Chelsea was sleeping with delegates? Wow else is whore appropriate to the discussion.

Pimping someone out apparently means something else than literally a pimp and a ho.

[tired_old_fireman]

67. Reporters and politicians need to be careful with their words.

Schuster meant something. What did he mean? I don't know for sure. I think he meant that her parents were whoring her out (i.e. degrading her) by having her campaign for her mother.

I don't know if you chose your name because you like Wes Clark...Remember his son campaigned for him in 2004. I saw him here in California. Would anyone ever say his dad was pimping him out? I don't think so. That is what makes Schuster's word choice and point so wrong.

[LittleClarkie]

68. Here's another definition

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06162/697359-51.stm

"to pimp also mean to heavily promote something or take advantage of someone.

Example, "They really pimped that new show on ABC." Or, "They made you work late but didn't pay any over time? They really pimped you."

I used to like Clark, then I liked Kerry, so I became a little Clarkie for Kerry, hence LittleClarkie.

And if they meant that his son was heavily promoting his father, then I'd probably be okay with that.

But my point is more that being related isn't what should make it offensive. A random aide referred to in that way should get just as much attention, if it's that bad. The familial relationship shouldn't make it worse or better.

[Tennessee Gal]

41. I really don't know what to think.

I like Schuster. He seems to be an excellent reporter. I am extremely surprised that he said such a thing. He has apologized and has been suspended. That is probably enough.

[tnlefty]

42. His comments were low and disgusting to me.

He was called on it and apologized publicly as he should have. I can't really comment on the suspension as I don't know the duration, but to me anything longer than a day or two is a bit much.

I'll admit that I'm angered that no one even thought to say anything disgusting about the twins when they were campaigning for Dimson**.

[LittleClarkie]

49. It would have been fine to me. Also the Kerry girls.

Some things are just wrong to say, but not because you're somebody's kid. Everyone is somebody's kid. And if you're an adult and chose to campaign for a candidate, related or not, you're free game.

But not for sexist or racist comments. Those are just wrong regardless.

[tnlefty]

63. Yes they are wrong and disgusting.

What I'm trying to get at is exactly why the twins were totally off limits and no one would have dared to say anything similar about them when they were out campaigning for Dimson**, yet I remember nasty things being said about Amy Carter and Chelsea when they were both very young, too young to even be involved in campaigns.

[caligirl]

44. well KO just profusly apologized on behalf of MSNBC for Shusters pimp usage.

[flyarm]

45. he sure did!! eom

[nonconformist]

53. I like Shuster. But he was wrong, it was petty and unprofessional.

It was a very unfortunate choice of words. I don't care if every teenager in the nation uses "pimped out", it doesn't make it right for a reporter to use it.

Shuster has been humbled, but he'll be back.

[leftofthedial]

55. there is no defending Shuster's comment

but it was not as big a deal as has been made of it.

apology is plenty.

suspension is excessive.

firing would be criminal.

[surfermaw]

57. Why drag Edwards in this, last I heard he was in C.H. and with, Jack at at least two Carolina B.Game

[LittleClarkie]

58. I'm not. I like his supporters and their perspective

that is all.

[Inspired]

61. Since you asked....I could care less about this crap.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

62. Disgusting comment. He should apologize.

As for being suspended, I'll leave that to the network, it's their choice. I hate that the political discourse has sunk to such a low, so I don't mind seeing one of these asshole cable network guys getting their due.

It's also very clear that with a few notable exceptions -- and yes, DU still has some clear voices of reason here, on both sides -- whether you agree or disagree that this was a blasphemous act depends entirely on which candidate you support. Many people are so entrenched that their opinion of everything is colored by their choice of candidate.

As if this were a sporting match.

As if we weren't all Democrats.

As if we weren't all human beings.

That's the truly disgusting part, IMHO...

[stray cat]

65. Wrong and inappropriate but not part of a pattern

A warning would have probably been more appropriate. I've never heard him say anything out of line before. He is a good reporter but pretty stiff. I think it was a poor attempt at humor by someone who isn't too skilled at humor to begin with. For some reason Scarborough gets away with it and I think he was modeling him while he was on his show. Bad move but not a firing offense.

However, I remember many comments about the Bush twins from people at DU that were much worse....

[Zodiak]

74. I find these tempest in a teapot issues to be easy distractions from the real issues

And the issues are getting precious little time in the collective political discourse these days.

Shuster has been punished...he was out of line, end of discussion. Can we get back to issues, now?

[KitchenWitch]

76. Mountains out of molehills.

[DearAbby]

82. Children of the Candidates should be off limits

I didn't hear anyone say Romney's Sons were "Man Whores" for campaigning for their father. It was a sexist remark, just because Chelsea is a female. Chelsea's age is not relevant. Sexism should not be accepted.

But I also feel, the apology should have been enough.