NOT ONE THREAD IN THIS FORUM ABOUT ANY REAL ISSUES

[Beaverhausen]

Yes, I'm yelling.

Come on people, we are better than this.

Millions of americans will go to sleep hungry tonight, many in their cars or on the street.

Isn't that a bit more important than the crap being argued about here?

[thunder rising]

1. There's only one way out ... GooooBama! Get a few more Dems in office and kick H&N off the thrones

[Beaverhausen]

2. again, no issues

thanks for your input. :eyes:

[BuyingThyme]

3. What issue is the most important to you?

[Beaverhausen]

10. try reading the Op again

Poverty is an issue, you know!

[BuyingThyme]

13. And how would you put the hunger issue into the context of this forum?

[Beaverhausen]

17. see the post below about the poster trying to start issue-oriented threads

and no one responding.

The point is, why aren't we discussing issues? If this primary is about voting for who we want to lead this country, aren't their stands on the issues worth discussion?

[BuyingThyme]

19. What is Hillary's position on hunger?

[Beaverhausen]

23. I don't know. Maybe one of her supporters can tell us?

I did know Edwards positions, but he's out, :cry:

[BuyingThyme]

24. I'm guessing she's against it.

[Beaverhausen]

27. I knew that was coming

:spank:

[niceypoo]

44. She is "against hunger"?

your killing your own arguement

:rofl:

[niceypoo]

43. Eat

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. Here's one I posted a couple of hours ago

It's about health care, and I asked for specifics. Sank like a stone with NO responses. I guess the rabid supporters of Clinton and Obama are all hot air with no substance.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4484213&mesg_id=4484213

[cbayer]

26. That's a great post.

I posted a very similar one last week and got nothing (see my jounal, if you are interested). I would love to see a real discussion about healthcare that went a little deeper than the taglines being used these days.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

31. Maybe we need to tag our posts: SERIOUS or ADULTS ONLY

so that we can find posts like yours and mine easier.

[cbayer]

38. There has to be some kind of solution. Even the serious posts get flamed.

[bicentennial_baby]

5. I posted about the minimum wage and inflation re: Obama, and

I got 2 responses. Sigh.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

9. At least you got two

Here's my thread on health care:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4484213&mesg_id=4484213

NO responses.

[bicentennial_baby]

11. That's a good post

I know how you feel :pals:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. Give me the url

and I'll add a third response!

[bicentennial_baby]

25. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4482658

I'll go kick yours! :hi:

[Beaverhausen]

15. well thank you for trying

It's a sad state of affairs when we can't seem to discuss any issues in detail and can only yell at each other like kids on a playground.

:hi:

[HughMoran]

6. Define "issue"

I don't think I've heard of that one before

:rofl:

[joshcryer]

7. I try to start interesting discussions but I can't.

Just one person here.

[cbayer]

8. Well, you could certainly start one.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

12. But what good is it to do so

when no one responds? Or only a few? This has been my experience, and the experience of others who have posted on this thread.

[cbayer]

20. Actually, you are right.

I have also tried to post some issues. It seems that those that want to stay in the fight just scan all the new posts and rapidly recommend any that add fuel to the fire, ignoring the rest. I wish we had a do not recommend button.

[Orangepeel]

14. That's what General Discussion if for. GDP is for petty sniping

and the Lounge is for personal posts and threads about cats

[Beaverhausen]

18. OK- thanks for clearing that up

:hi:

I think I'll go read some kitty cat threads now! :rofl:

[no name no slogan]

21. OF COURSE NOT. THIS IS GDP.

If you can't join the circular firing squad, you have no reason to be here.

:sarcasm:

[mathewsleep]

22. any post about issues gets buried.

people only comment when they read something hateful. which is why those threads live for ever and the good ones die a slow painful death.

[cbayer]

28. Ain't that the truth.

[mathewsleep]

32. yes

it is.

[alcibiades_mystery]

29. "we are better than this."

:rofl:

Are you new to this board or something. DU is not "better than this." This is the essence of DU. One in twenty even has the faintest notion of how policy is implemented. It's all about petty campaign arguments and counter-arguments, all day everyday. Don't mistake this for a policy board. It's not.

[Beaverhausen]

30. No I'm not new

I learn a lot from the posters here on all sorts of topics. There are tons of well-informed and extremely involved people posting here.

Maybe my memory is short as far as the 2004 primary is concerned. I honestly think that what I consider to be more politically-aware people (members of DU) should have better things to talk about.

But I guess I'm giving some people here too much credit.

[ellisonz]

42. I think I'll go start another thread: Hugo Chavez or circumcision?

[KittyWampus]

33. I just posted about #1. clinton and FCC/Telecom #2. Clinton and Bank Deregulation

why aren't you contributing?

[Guava Jelly]

34. You have noticed that too.

I thought I was the only one

[NashVegas]

35. If You Want to Talk Issues

And have it conversational-like, you have to wait until the campaigning is over.

:shrug:

[izzybeans]

36. No we aren't. You are giving us too much credit.

And it is important, but what's left to argue on substance. We've got two good candidates with only a handful of differences.

[Tatiana]

37. Every post about substantive issues sinks to the bottom.

Posts analyzing voting trends, foreign policy, specific bills in Congress the candidates advocate, plans to combat poverty (or lack thereof)... it all sinks like a rock.

We've become a bit like the Jerry Springer show of the left blogosphere.

[Guava Jelly]

39. Sad isn't it

very sad :(

[End Of The Road]

40. It's worse than watching mud wrestling...

and about as intelligent. Shallow, depressing drivel.

[sam sarrha]

41. i just read one really informative one.. not all bad

[Kitty Herder]

45. But the horse race is so much fun!

:popcorn:

[nightrain]

46. I say let's talk about Britney Spears or ....

how about starting a topic then...?

[TalkingDog]

47. When the "my candidate can beat up your candidate" and the

"my candidate is prettier (smarter, more experienced, ...etc) than your candidate" threads started, all the reasonable (cynical) people vacated GD:P posthaste. Some of you more hopeful types, with more faith in your fellow man, stuck around.

As for the sheep. Sheep are sheep. Just because they call themselves Democrats doesn't automatically instill intelligence, critical thought, curiosity or even a desire to understand complex problems, much less seeking effective ways to solve them.

They would rather join the cult of personality (on all counts) and bask in the puppy pile glow of rolling around in the muck of their fellow revelers and joiners. If Britteny were running, they'd be just as happy.....actually they would probably be happier, because then nobody would be asking them hard question about that policy stuff or those what'zitt things...you know...platforms???? OMG....

Some of us ARE better than this. Some of us put the state of our country, the welfare of our neighbors, ahead of reliving the perverse and immature thrill of high school rivalries.

Some of us look past the SURFACE of rhetoric, whether by the candidates or by the followers and want to know if there is SUBSTANCE in policy planning that will begin to repair the last 15 years of damage. Much of that wrought by people whose self interest took precedence over the people they were elected to assist.


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[awaysidetraveler]

48. I thought my thread was about HRC's Iraq War policy, which I think is a dangerous policy.

I can't find anyone to argue the point with me though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4482617&mesg_id=4482617

I'm with you on this though: there need to be more issues of substance here.

I couldn't care less about HRC or Obama's style.

[ClassWarrior]

49. Try this one...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4497945&mesg_id=4497945

And it's dropping like a rock.

NGU.

[dailykoff]

50. Here's a thread about US-sponsored renditions and torture:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4497962&mesg_id=4497962

[Eurobabe]

51. Issues, we don't need no STINKIN' ISSUES. n/t

[stillcool]

52. Politics create reality...

and this society is sick..in so many ways. And it is due to the consequences on top of consequences from the policies of our government. It has been going on for decades. How can I possibly help prevent more needless pain and suffering in the future, when the policies of our government continue to inflict more injury? This election surely will have an impact on policy...it's just in what way. I don't want more of the same last 7 years, and the effects of those years that for some will last a lifetime.