What if David Schuster said that Obama was pimpin out his wife.

[xultar]

Y'all would be hittin the roof, calling him a racist and a sexist pig.

You know it. You'd want his head and his balls on a platter with biscuits and gravy.

But because he said it about a Clinton. Y'all think it is much to do about nothing so we need to move on.

[HereSince1628]

1. I missed that, got a link?

[xultar]

2. Don't need a link with a what if...

[HereSince1628]

23. Seems to me you clearly say he made a comment about Clinton

pimping out his wife>> "But because he said it about a Clinton. Y'all think it is much to do about nothing so we need to move on."

If that happened I missed it which is why I asked for a link. I could care less about the speculative what if part of it.

[xultar]

29. Where have you been? Read up on the board then get back with me.

[HereSince1628]

32. Hey, give a guy a chance to eat supper and fire up the machine, X

[xultar]

34. Depends on what you are eating and if you are sharing. I'm starved

but since I get sick on everything I eat I can't eat. bummer.

[Little Star]

3. It would have been an Imus moment, except Imus deserved it.

[CTyankee]

4. Good point. Anybody out there want to comment? n/t

[lligrd]

5. Uh, Using The Word Pimping With A Black Candidate

would be racist and if you can't see why, I can't help you. It was a poor choice of words in any case but I think Hillary fans have gotten all the mileage out of it that is possible.

Edited to add: I do consider the way it was used to be sexist.

[xultar]

9. I'M A BLACK WOMAN so what do your mean if I can't fucking see why.

Second people are saying that pimping is part of the hip and now talk.

So why the fuck wouldn't it be just as bad to say it about a woman candidate and her daughter regardless OF RACE.

You wouldn't say all he needed to do was apologise for being a racist so why is it o.k. to apologise for being sexist.

[lligrd]

20. I Already Edited To Say I Did Consider It Sexist

and stupid but hardly the worst of what has been said. As a big free speech advocate, I say good for people for calling him on it but let's move on. And MSNBC is the only one of the big three that has any truth on it at all. Give them a break.

[lligrd]

31. Just An Aside But I Love Chelsea

Maybe someday I'll be casting a vote for her.

[HughMoran]

11. So only blacks are pimps and hos?

There is something a bit odd about your argument.

[xultar]

12. Guess so. Go figure.

[lligrd]

25. Not At All But Racists Used "Pimp" To Slam Blacks For Years

I never brought up "ho". Wonder why you associated "ho" with "pimp" and being racist.

[HughMoran]

28. What does "pimping out "mean?

HINT: It has to do with hos (AKA prostitutes, 'tutes, whores, street walkers or hookers)

[lligrd]

38. You Could Have Used Another Term But You Didn't

because it wouldn't have had the same racist connotation.

[HughMoran]

6. Hypocrisy 101

Today has been a really strange day on DU. You may have noticed.

[AX10]

7. It would have been made into an Imus moment.

The double standard is absurd.
I don't want Schuster fired, his apology is fine.

[polichick]

8. Whomever he said it about, all he can do is apologize...

Which he has done. 'Nuff said.

[bunnies]

10. I wouldnt give a fuck.

Im hip enough to know that the phrase "pimpin out" doesnt equal "Your wife is a whore".

[mtnsnake]

17. yeah right. You'd be the first one whining all over DU starting cryass threads about it

[kikiek]

13. Excellent point.

[xultar]

15. Another poster made the same exact point in another thread.

[jgraz]

14. Obama would handle it much more gracefully than Hillary did

Threatening to boycott not one but two networks over a single comment? Gimme a frickin break.

[xultar]

24. IS that the point. Something is still racist or sexist regardless of how you handle it.

So if I handle being called a nigger well then it's what? You'll believe me more, you'll believe I'm more sincere?

You must be joking.

So if a black person handles something well then it's just better for everyone.

I thought we were supposed to get angry. Not take shit, that is why Democrats got run over etc.

You can't have it both ways. Wanting a candidate to fight and then when they do you beat them down for how they handle it.

[jgraz]

33. See, that's an example of not handling something gracefully

I meant that Obama is a better leader and has a better sense of propriety. Hillary is overreacting to this.

What Shuster said was obscene and I was one of the first people to hammer him for it. But I expect a future president to handle a situation like this a lot better than Hillary did. Once again, she seized the opportunity to play the victim and grab a news cycle.

[Bucky]

16. I think the consensus among Obama people is that Shuster was wrong & got the right punishment

That's my read on it. There's very few DUers defending Shuster, from what I can tell. Of course I'm blocking out about 10 straight up assholes in this forum right now (about evenly split between pro-Obama and pro-Clinton disrupters), so I have no idea what the reflexively rude among us are saying. But surely you don't base your perspectives mostly on what the "squeaky wheels" say.

[xultar]

18. Please go to this thread then check back...I'll be getting more links for you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4489069#4489098

[Bucky]

27. I noticed there was a pro-Shuster comment from a Clinton supporter there

Another one of them was blocked out. The comments were hardly endorsing what he said (save one idiot talking about the 'contemporary' and 'inoffensive' vernacular meaning when you suggest a Senator's daughter is a prostitute).

Thank you for finding what you did for me, but please don't bother with more links. Life is too short to waste on the clueless. You should go out and fight for your candidate rather than nitpick the shallowness of anonymous internet posters.

[rhett o rick]

Can I deduct a recommendation? This is all so childish. nm

[LittleClarkie]

19. My problem with the outrage is the people saying "you don't talk about someone's kids"

It's not the words, which I agree were ill chosen.

It's the reaction of some who say that the children of the candidates are out of bounds.

Not when they're adults and working the campaign they're not.

It's that part of the outrage that's makin' me nuts.

I felt the same way when it was Elizabeth Edwards who was making comments, and if someone criticized her comments, there were those who reacted by saying "How dare you go after a woman with cancer!"

Michelle Obama is not out of bounds. Mary Cheney was not out of bounds. No one who chooses after their 18th birthday to enter the campaign in some capacity is out of bounds. Not the Kerry kids, nor the Bush twins.

Edwards kids, out of bounds. Obama kids, out of bounds. Chelsea in the 90's, out of bounds. That little crying girl at the Kerry rally sitting on her freeper daddy's shoulders, out of bounds.

It's not that Chelsea is the Clintons kid that made what Schuster said wrong. It would have been wrong to say of any woman working the campaign.

I'm kind of rambling here, but I hope you get my reasoning.

[rodeodance]

21. Right on -thank you for your post.

[calico1]

22. You are absolutely correct.

Thanks for pointing that out.

[madrchsod]

26. yes....and your point is?

schuster deserves what he gets..."whoring out chelsea" is offensive and he should have gotten fired.

in the real world that i live in, a company would have fired him on the spot..

[Jamastiene]

30. Well, you know, people who are ok with the "pimping" comment are also ok with

rape as well, so...consider the source. Obama supporters are ok with rape too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4487367

I rest my case.

[madrchsod]

35. i`m not cool with what he said..so keep your

"Obama supporters are ok with rape too." bullshit to those who you accuse of saying that? ok?

if i said that about a fellow worker and their kid at a place of work... i`d be fired on the spot..

[lligrd]

39. Careful You Don't Pull A Hamstring

That was quite a stretch.

[navarth]

36. It would be *more* wrong than what he did. But he didn't.

If he did, he would need to be suspended for much longer, maybe fired. BUT HE DIDN'T.

Milk it the rest of the day; then move on. That's my recommendation.

'nuff said.

[tnlefty]

37. No. He made an idiotic comment and was called on the carpet

for it, and it is my understanding that he has made a public apology and has been suspended although I don't know the duration of the suspension.

I wouldn't want my biscuits and gravy tainted with your suggestion as I prefer them with scrambled eggs and grits.

I'm actually more baffled about why it never crossed anyone's mind to make such a crass and crude comment about the Bush** twins. Goddess knows that Amy Carter and Chelsea both had vile things said about them when they were very young. :shrug: