We still need a VICE PRESIDENT!

[mdmc]

Poll question: We still need a VICE PRESIDENT!

let's just end the debate and decide it right here my friends...

[maddiejoan]

1. I think

Hillary will do better with Wes Clark.

Let Obama finish his Senate term.

[Windy]

2. Hillary won't win against McCain...

Obama and Webb or Edwards (even biden)

[maddiejoan]

3. I disagree

I think once the campaign is under way, Hillary will crush McCain into fine powder.

[mdmc]

6. I agree my friend - HRC will beat Mac

Wes Clark is a good pick for veep. I think the Richardson would be better.

[mac2]

8. Richardson

would lose us votes just like Lieberman did.

[mdmc]

11. even so

we would still win vs Mac + whoever

[Windy]

16. I'm sure you do. You are very naive. Its a shame. If she gets the nom, we will lose the general

And i will attribute it to the ignorance of blind loyalty HRC supporters. after 8 years of bush and all the crap that this country has gone through, leave to the dems to BLOW an opportunity.

She has no shot of getting through the general. The republicans hate her, the independents won't support her and a great number of dems will sit out the election.

[OmahaBlueDog]

19. The republicans hate US, not just her

We can win or lose, no matter who gets the nomination.

I hate to point out the obvious, but if you think it will be easy to get a man named Barack Hussein Obama elected President, I'd really have to question who's being naive. On several occasions, I've posted a link to this editorial in Invvestors Business Daily:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=285292746454291

If you are an Obama supporter (and I gather you are), you should read this gem, and you should learn responses to every point in the editorial, because this will be the attack ad blueprint, mark my words. Or maybe, as I've also suggested, this will be as simple as putting Barack's picture between Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden, and have someone repeat "Barack Hussein Obama" whie going through his lack of foreign policy experience. If none of that is enough, the fact that he is a man of color will still cause white voters in the former Confederacy to vote against him in large numbers.

My point is not to run Obama down. My point is that I tire of the "you should vote for Barack because Hillary can't win" attitude. Barack has just as many liabilities.

I'll agree that McCain will appeal to independents, but he will drive away evangelicals -- a key component of their base. I think the number of Dems who stay home if Hillary is nominated is overstated -- not with the numbers we've seen polling in the primaries. At the end of the day, people who hate Hillary's ties to corporations wil still see the reality that she will nominate better judges, bring in better advisors, and take a better approach to Iraq than John McCain. Taking your ball and going home isn't an option this time; if McCain wins, he replaces Stevens, and if you think the Constitution is shredded now, wait to see what comes next.

McCain has baggage too. He's not unbeatable. His age alone should give one pause. His temper isn't the stuff of someone who should ".. have their finger on the button" , and as divided as we are, I honestly think the GOP is more screwed up and conflicted than we are.

[maddiejoan]

21. If Obama gets the nomination

don't come crying to me when you see what the GOP is going to do to him.

It's gonna make what they did to Kerry and Gore look like a love fest.

[OmahaBlueDog]

13. If we end up in a floor fight at Denver...

.. Hillary may have to put Obama on the ticket (or vice versa) to ensure unity. Setting that aside, my veep picks for Hill would be...

1) Clark -- Solid, dependable, and with good military experience
2) Webb -- Kinda like Clark, but with some Reagan administration ties. He could help big in Virginia.
3) Edwards -- He won't deliver any states (we learned that in '04), but he will help to bring the progressive wing of our party along for the ride.

I'll throw out 1 more
4) Bill Nelson -- Yep, he's a DINO; yep, he does nothing for the progressives -- but he could help bring in Florida, and we have to get Florida or Ohio to win this thing.

[mdmc]

18. great picks

I think we win this one fo'sho no doubt. What remains to be seen is the who.

[nonconformist]

4. Hillary Clinton/Wesley Clark 2008

That's a powerful freaking ticket right there.

[mdmc]

9. I have only one problem with

Wes Clark being HRC's veep - the ticket would have a militaristic slant instead of a diplomatic slant.

I think the ticket would still win, but imho it is not ideal.

[nonconformist]

12. I think we need a ticket that can appear tough, but can work diplomatically.

I think both Clinton and Clark bring that to the table.

[mdmc]

14. God Bless your sig line

:kick:

[nonconformist]

17. Thanks! nt

[mdmc]

15. dupe

:kick:

[Colobo]

5. Barack Obama/Tim Kaine or Barack Obama/Jim Webb

[OmahaBlueDog]

10. I like Kaine as the Veep for Obama

1. If McCain picks Huck for his Veep, Obama/Kaine gives "values voters" something to ponder. If McCain picks Rice as his Veep, Obama/Kaine might actually win some of those folks over.
2. The pick helps us in a state that we'd really like (read: need) to win.

[newmajority]

7. Running two senators on the ticket would be suicide

So not only no to Hillary as VP, but to any other senators. A governor is the best bet, unless you could talk Al Gore into being VP again, which isn't likely since he's already been elected President.

The fact that Bill Richardson has NOT endorsed Hillary, despite being a former Clintonite and DLC'er is something I find very interesting. Richardson's resume would kill any of the "experience" crap that some might try to use against Obama.

For you Edwards & Biden fans out there - I could see your guys in this administration as well. Edwards might be the best Attorney General since RFK. And Biden would be one Hell of a Secretary of State.

[mdmc]

20. I doubt any dem combo will lose to Mac n co.

But I hear what you are sayin

[toadzilla]

22. dont we need a nominee first?