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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:48 PM
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What's with using right-wing sources to attack the Dem candidates?
This ranges from posting editorial columns by conservative writers, to using foreign news sources with superficial and dubious understandings of our culture and processes to flat out using right-wing websites filled with racist and misogynistic articles.

Many of these attack pieces are posted with little or no commentary from the OP. The only effect seems to be spamming DU with garbage. It's lazy, sickening and disgusting. Those "sources" don't become legitimate just because they are attacking a candidate that isn't yours. Using half-truths from these writings in a pseudo-intellectual way to smear a candidate is even worse.

Legitimate, rational, thought-out criticism is one thing. Posting right-wing drivel is quite another entirely.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:49 PM
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1. The other day I saw someone with less than 100 posts use StormFront as a link
They're still here.

Boggles the mind.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:50 PM
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2. ..
:wtf:
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:52 PM
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4. Thankfully I missed that one...
but from what I've seen, sadly it doesn't surprise me. It amazes me how some still manage to hang around despite posting very offensive crap, and defend it as if it were legitimate.

So much for us supposedly being "better than that."
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:09 AM
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20. you shitting me?
:puke:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:06 AM
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30. I wish I was
He claimed he didn't know what type of site it was. How could you NOT notice it's a neo-Nazi site?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:33 AM
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34. He's full of it, obviously.
What a pig.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:55 AM
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28. I saw that.
That was horrendous. :puke:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:51 PM
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3. I couldn't agree more
The depths to which some will stoop to make a point here is incredible.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:56 PM
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8. The ironic thing is that it weakens arguments...
at least in my book.

Maybe having to resort posting junk like I described just shows that while anyone can have legitimate reasons for preferring Clinton or Obama, both Dem candidates are pretty good.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:03 AM
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14. I was thinking that too after posting
I was trying to imagine why people would have to resort to such tactics, then I realized that our candidates are both very good people and all that's left is the lame old right-wing talking points. OTOH, I am almost certain that some folks who only attack one candidate and never praise their own candidate are just Freepers taking advantage of the situation at this time. Fortunately, we have special features here that allow us to "not see" these characters. :D
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:08 AM
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19. I think you may be right about those who only attack...
and never support/praise their own candidate.

I've just started to utilize those "special features" to avoid some of those characters. ;)
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:53 PM
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5. I sincerely hate all of it, all the infighting. nt
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:53 PM
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6. I couldn't agree more. I can't believe some ppl call themselves democrats with a straight face
Or maybe they are reallly freepers in disguise. I hope for our sake they are, I wouldn't want to be associated with "democrats" like these.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:56 AM
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29. Yeah, with Democrats like those, who needs Republicans? n/t
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:55 PM
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7. I wonder if they will give as much credence to right-wing smear
when it is directed at their Obama. LOL

We shall soon find out!
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:58 PM
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10. There are right-wing smears directed at both Obama and Clinton
in GD: P. Maybe you just missed those threads. Neither candidate has been immune in this forum.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:56 PM
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9. You need to lower your expectations.
Right wing sources are ok here now.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:00 AM
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11. So far today
RW sources cited: David Brooks, GOPBloggers, Frontpage, Fox news and Michael Savage.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:02 AM
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13. Michael Savage!!??
:crazy: That one and Stormfront I hadn't heard until I created this thread. Is that poster still around?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:06 AM
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17. Okay, not directly
It was a post citing a Frontpage piece that called Obama an affirmative action candidate. And we all know that Mr. Wiener started that one.

So, I fudged a little. :)

As for the poster. I don't want them banned. I just want these fanatics to stop using RW sources to justify whatever the hell they're trying to justify.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:04 AM
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15. Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, Andrew Sullivan, Peggy Noonan
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 12:05 AM by Yossariant
--- a veritable who's who of right wing shills with threads started by their blatherings if they attack and/or support a candidate and, sorry, but it is pretty one-sided.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:08 AM
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31. Add Daniel Pipes to that list
I alert on any I see, but it's hard to keep up with it anymore. For us and for the mods.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:01 AM
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12. i'm waiting for someone to post a Daniel Pipes essay, that'll button it for me.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:05 AM
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16. One was posted a while back, but I had never heard of the person
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 12:05 AM by HughMoran
I didn't read it but people reacted violently to it - what is it all about?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:07 AM
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18. he's bad, really bad. Huge neo con, ultra uber con and he specializes in the ME
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 12:09 AM by chimpsrsmarter
i saw him debate another writer one night on Charlie Rose, i literally thought it was going to come to blows and Charlie there in the middle trying to tamp it down.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Daniel_Pipes
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:10 AM
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21. OK, someone pointed out that he was a neocon
That post went the way of the dodo bird, so I can't link to it!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:15 AM
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22. he favors interment for muslims and agreed with Michelle Malkin about the interment of the japanese
and he's written about a bazillion articles about Palestine.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:20 AM
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25. Thanks
Next time I will know right away if I see someone post this crap. I love that avatar of the girl wishing that freak, Bush, would get away from her! :rofl:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:10 AM
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32. Well, go look, chimps
I don't remember the thread title, but I just saw Daniel Pipes in a post ten minutes ago and not for the first time.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:15 AM
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23. I suspect that some freepi are posting here. Some of these are their usual sources.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:19 AM
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24. Yes, I bet SOME are....
but sadly, I don't think ALL are.

I don't know what to think about the non-freepers posting this mess.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:25 AM
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26. Evidently nothing's against the rules anymore
There's a popular thread now quoting Peggy fucking Noonan.

There's another thread that just says "FUCK THE CLINTONS".

There's no longer a requirement that a thread be meaningful, or non-flamebait. The rules are out the window, the admins don't give a shit, and this site is a bigger cesspool with each passing day.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:35 AM
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27. Rules?
We don't need no stinkin' rules!

:D
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:10 AM
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33. Totally agree. Do your homework before posting an article
Just my opinion.
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