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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:21 AM
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I truly believe that Hillary should bow out of any debates sponsored by MSNBC
She has got to fight with everything she has for this nomination in which Obama has been crowned the second coming by MSNBC. She doesn't need to grace them with her presence. She meets with groups of working people every day to explain her positions, answer their questions. She cannot hope to mimic the huge pep rallies of the Obama campaign. But when she speaks mature voters listen and learn. If they are going to vote for her most have already made up their minds. Nothing can be said to change the mind of an Obama supporter or a voter who is "leaning" toward Obama.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:22 AM
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1. Wasn't she the one who wanted the debates? NT
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:01 AM
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21. MSNBC moderators do everything they can to hurt her
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:11 AM
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23. Fox is so much better, right?
:sarcasm:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:23 AM
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2. But she'll push for and happily participate in Fox News debates. LOL.
When it comes to politics, Murdoch, known in media circles as the “dirty digger,” is equally adaptable in pursuing his personal gain. The most loyal right-wing Tory and friend of Margaret Thatcher during the 1980s, as he built up his media holdings in Britain, he switched his loyalties to “New Labour” when he saw that Tony Blair could provide a fresh face for even more reactionary politics and was more than willing to further Murdoch’s interests in return for editorial backing. He made similar swings in his native Australia between the Labor and Liberal parties to further his efforts at monopolizing the print and broadcast media.

So, it should really come as no surprise that Murdoch is now emerging as a prominent backer of the Democratic US Senator from New York, Hillary Clinton. The Financial Times of London reported Tuesday that Murdoch will personally host a July fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton on behalf of his News Corp.

CBS News reported on the upcoming fundraiser with the provocative headline “Rupert Murdoch Loves Hillary Clinton.” It stated, “The mating ritual of the unlikely allies has been under way for months.”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/may2006/murd-m10.shtm...
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:42 AM
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15.  What do you think about Murdocks endorsement of BO?
I'm sure that's fine but anything that includes Hillary is bad. The hate in here is unreal.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:02 AM
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22. Obama is right wing, so it makes sense.
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:55 AM
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18. Fox moderators have been fair. MSNBC's are scuzzball driven
I think msnbc should be taken off the air. There is no reason for it to exist.
Dan Abrams is the only guy there with integrity.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:23 AM
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Russert Avoidance Behavior
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:23 AM
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3. what he said
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 12:23 AM by BeyondGeography
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:24 AM
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4. I truly believe that Hillary should bow out of any race covered by MSNBC
She cannot hope to mimic the huge pep rallies of the Obama campaign because she does not enjoy the popular support Barack does.

Nothing can be said to change the mind of an Obama supporter or a voter who is "leaning" toward Obama.

And?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:28 AM
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7. McGovern and Kerry will tell you that huge crowds equal victory.
:sarcasm:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:35 AM
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24. Kerry won he was just denied the victory by the CCM and BBV
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:24 AM
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5. Now that she has money, she doesn't need the free press
and wants to avoid appearing side-by-side with Obama.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:24 AM
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6. She should bow out of the campaign
For the good of the party & the country.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:54 AM
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17. Funny I was thinking the same thing about BO. His race baiting
has done thing but tear the party and soon the country apart. He was wrong to say Clinton said anything wrong about MLK, he stirred more crap when he insinuated when Clinton said Jessie Jackson had won SC that he was dissing him. He's been friends with Jackson for years. He has many personal black friends but on this board you would think he was the grand dragon.BO's always bringing up race then saying no I didn't, Clinton did. This is not doing anyone any good in the long run. Just look at what it's done in here.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:01 AM
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20. WOW!!! It's hard to even respond to such well-reasoned & informed post
All I can say is - STAY IN SCHOOL!

:dunce:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:28 AM
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8. Sounds good to me. Bow out.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:29 AM
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9. She doesn't need to grace him with her presence? This isn't a monarchy Jasmine.
And frankly, I don't find that your posts are all that intelligent or mature. Apparently, you've not bothered to educate yourself with regard to any other candidate but Hillary. Its ok to be passionate, but its not ok to make the decision that someone is above the democratic process nor is ok for you to intimate that other candidates don't address the very serious issues facing this country. They all have. Clinton does NOT have a monopoly.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:29 AM
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10. Who, Cry Baby in Chief n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:31 AM
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11. she was the one whining for debates to begin with.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:32 AM
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12. Yes, maybe she can run this line: "Hillary, Our Perpetual President & Victim-in-chief"
I'm so sick of this "She's a victim" bullshit! :nuke:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:33 AM
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13. Agreed.
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JohnBreauxDemocrat Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:33 AM
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14. CNN is a great venue for her.
She should wheedle them.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:44 AM
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16. In Texas
We call that the chicken dance
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:55 AM
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19. Um shes the one who freakin wanted the debates in teh first place
If she bows out, no sweat off my back.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:14 AM
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25. She should just go and hide in a closet?
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