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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:42 AM
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superdelegates worry Obama?
I don't like the idea of superdelegates either, but I find Obama's "outrage" hollow, disgusting, and very revealing.

He knew the rules going in. His camp has blasted and mocked Clinton for wanting the delegates from MI and FL seated, using just that rationale, although it's obvious that if they had voted for him, he'd do exactly the same thing and his followers would be chanting about "democracy" all the way.

Did he complain about the system up front, or is it (as it seems) only when he thinks the superdelegates will help her? Easy answer.

Obama is just an old-style politician in a pretty package (like the Kennedys were). Even with the media on his side, he may have trouble maintaining his facade much longer.

And to Donna Brazile, (D-Whiner) who is a superdelegate, who said she would quit the party if superdelagates like herself decide this race.

I say.......So leave, already - who's asking you to stay? CNN might miss your Obama-groveling, but nobody will miss your whining.


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:43 AM
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K & R!
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JohnBreauxDemocrat Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:43 AM
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1. Obama and Brazille whine every time I see them, what is it with these people?
Shut up and let's hear your ideas, if you folks have any.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:14 AM
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9. typical hrc acrimony
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:47 AM
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2. They all agreed to the superdelegate system
Just like the disenfranchisement of the Democrats in Florida and Michigan.

OR, we could revamp our party and level off the playing field. What say?

--p!
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:49 AM
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3. Bartcop, is that you?
I swear I read the same thing on Bartcop.com

If I didn't I'm having another bout of deja vu, where you get a feeling that what you are experiencing happened before.

But I guess thats better than vuja de, where you get a feeling that what you are experiencing never happened before. (old George Carlin joke).









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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:57 AM
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:51 AM
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4. yes indeed Obama knew the damn rules...he signed onto them
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:01 AM
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6. Exactly.
Barack needs to be quiet and let the cards fall where they will. He may actually win so there is no need to come across as a whiner right now.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:03 AM
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7. Never reverse pledged delegates
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:04 AM
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8. I am not sure how we would decide this thing if it is 50/50 w/o the SD.
Food fight? Mud wrestling? American Idol Contest?

Oooo. I think maybe that last is the problem. American Idol has gotten people convinced that they should be able to push a button and see it happen. The problem is that by convention time, everyone in the US will have already had their chance to push the button.

You know, Obama has just as much opportunity to offer cabinet appointments and judicial appointments and military deals and ambassador posts as Clinton does. There is no reason he can not bargain for these SDs. I'll bet that he is in the process of doing it at this very moment if he already has more than 100 committed.
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