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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:49 AM
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Seattle goes crazy for Obama 21,000 attend: HRC draws 5,000
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 03:51 AM by grantcart


20,000 seats filled, thousands could not find parking turned away.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/flatpages/local/barackobamaseattlerally.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2004173348_danny09.html

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/350597_obama09.html


They came by the thousands -- 21,000 by Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels' estimate -- to see Sen. Barack Obama at KeyArena on Friday and to hear the message of hope and change that has propelled him to the final rounds of the fight for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Clinton spoke before 5,000 people Thursday night at a Pier 30 warehouse and also made campaign stops Friday in Tacoma and Spokane.

Elsewhere here is the updated Gallup poll
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:50 AM
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1. Yeah, but they were 5,000 superdelegates
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:52 AM
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2. Sounds like Bill in '92 but much, much bigger.
The Clintons had their moment but it's over. They went to the dark side with Cheney and we don't want them back.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:07 AM
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13. Aye!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:04 PM
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39. Has it ever occured to you, most of Hillary supporters have see her and heard her before
They don't really have to go see her, they know what she is and what she stands for and what she h elped William Jefferson Clinton accomplish
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:25 PM
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42. Is that why they went to see Obama instead?
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:52 AM
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3. they wanted to witness the second coming of the savior
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:57 AM
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7. that whole cult thing is kind of becoming tedious
Washington State Caucuses are tomorrow. It is a state that has gone to Clinton before twice. Large number of Asian Americans and other demographics that do well for Hillary. She has been resupplied with fresh donations and is running lots of ads. Washingtonians like to vote for women with 2 female senators both of whom endorsed her. I am sure she will do very very well there tomorrow.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:41 AM
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27. They just want to imprint in our heads don't let their negativity overcome us.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:41 AM
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28. They just want to imprint the word in our heads don't let their negativity overcome us.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:42 AM by cooolandrew
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:53 AM
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4. a lot of older people who tend to support Hillary don't go to these things
so every single one of those who supports Obama need to get out there and vote for him. even if she was just drawing crowds of 100 and he had 30k plus.

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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:56 AM
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5. It's true that parking around Seattle Center & Key Arena truly sucks
Makes you wonder how many more thousands were trying to get there. And this was on a weekday. Just imagine what the crowd might have been if we had caucuses on Sunday, and the rally was on Saturday.

GOBAMA!!! :bounce: :woohoo: :patriot:
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:56 AM
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6. Who said you couldn't fool all the people all the time?
Obama proves that maxim in Obamaland.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:58 AM
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9. that was President Lincoln
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:07 AM
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12. He also said
"“I am not bound to win, but I am bound to be true. I am not bound to succeed, but I am bound to live by the light that I have. I must stand with anybody that stands right, and stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong.”

Which is why I can't stand by, nor support Obama and his campaign of platitudes strung together into incoherent blather, confused as substance by people of less challenging minds, not used to critical thinking!
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:14 AM
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16. Is that why people with postgraduate studies favor Obama?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that people without education are not intelligent. But we can agree that someone with a PhD is "used to critical thinking", can't we? And that demographic favors Obama.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't make that person stupid.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:23 AM
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19. what a wretched soul you are and you shame Obama the man that you cliam to support.....
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:28 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
cicada
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:30 AM
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22. huh? the poster I was replying to said that Obama supporters are stupid

and lacking substance, and you conclude that I have a wretched soul?
Some Clinton supporters are funny...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:36 AM
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23. she never makes any sense
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:45 AM
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ah look, how sweet, now the Obama cicadas tag team
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:03 PM
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38. When you you dont't have the issues
prevaricate


When you don't have the leadership


triangulate



When you don't have motivation


trivialize the loss



When you are absolutely down to nothing



attack the supporters. cultists cicadas Is that really all you have.




Do you have anything intelligent to say about the OP; a news update on what was happening with both campaigns?

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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:45 AM
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29. Do you have tourettes of the keyboard?
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:49 AM by psychopomp
:hurts:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:29 AM
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21. anytime you want to match degrees, languages or internatinal experience
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:29 AM by grantcart
i'll be happy to oblige you. You are seldom 'on point' and demonstrate the most uncritical thinking. This was simply a news story presented without bias on what was happening in Seattle with links to articles on both campaigns. You simply cannot pass up an opportunity to make a sarcastic remark which might be interesting in an opinion thread if it atleast had a modicum of depth to it. Crashing in and dropping a load making a sarcastic comment demonstrates a lack of perception , a key function of a critical mind, and actually below the standards of either the Clinton and the Edwards campaigns.
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:53 AM
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30. Whats really funny...is this person is using Cicada as an insult.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:54 AM by Mother Of Four
See...Cicada's are unique and beautiful insects that have an incredible life span. The noise they make is called singing, and
"Cicadas do not bite or sting, are benign to humans, and are not considered a pest."

They are useful as well, in many cultures they are used as food and in China they are still used as medicine.

In 2004 the word Cicada was the word of the year for Websters.



Under difficult odds the Cicada fights its way up from undergroud and actually has to make a slit in bark to lay its eggs.

I had to respond to this, especially since this poster has a habit of attempting to insult others by the use of this word when obviously they have no real clue to what they are saying.

Sorry...but "ElsewheresDaughter" should try and use that word "Elsewhere"

Maybe she should read up on it eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada


PSSST....I'm still supporting Edwards, so um...ED...go ahead...call me an "Obama Cicada"

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:07 AM
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31. ah but they only crawl up out of their dark hole every 4 years and......
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 05:09 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
then just for a very short time make lots of noise only to disappear after the Primary
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:15 AM
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32. Actually you're wrong on that too.
(CLIP)

After mating, the female cuts slits into the bark of a twig, and into these she deposits her eggs. She may do so repeatedly, until she has laid several hundred eggs. When the eggs hatch, the newborn nymphs drop to the ground, where they burrow. Most cicadas go through a life cycle that lasts from two to five years. Some species have much longer life cycles, e.g. the Magicicada goes through a 17- or occasionally 13-year life cycle. These long life cycles are an adaptation to predators such as the cicada killer wasp and praying mantis, as a predator could not regularly fall into synchrony with the cicadas. Both 13 and 17 are prime numbers, so while a cicada with a 15-year life cycle could be preyed upon by a predator with a three- or five-year life cycle, the 13- and 17-year cycles allow them to stop the predators falling into step.<7>

The insects spend most of the time that they are underground as nymphs at depths ranging from about 30 cm (1 ft) up to 2.5 m (about 8½ ft). The nymphs feed on root juice and have strong front legs for digging.

In the final nymphal instar, they construct an exit tunnel to the surface and emerge. They then moult (shed their skins), on a nearby plant for the last time and emerge as adults. The abandoned skins remain, still clinging to the bark of trees.

(END CLIP)

Like I said...maybe you should read up on it before you use it as an insult. Life cycles are anywhere from 2-17 years, depending on the type. :)

Here you go :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicada

:hi:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:25 AM
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33. well these Obama cicadas are on the 4 yr cycle.....thanks professor
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 05:28 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
:hi:
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Mother Of Four Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:33 AM
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34. Quite welcome....
I think you and I are on the same time zone too.

Dunno about you but I'm loopy from not being able to sleep.

:crazy:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:58 AM
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35. same here...the last two nights I haven't been able to sleep at all...not since 2001 has this...
happened....I hope I cycle my way back to my normal pattern soon

I feel ready to face plant my keyboard any second now...so I'm going to try to sleep now.

niters and I enjoyed the banter.

peace

btw love the screen name. i too am a mother of four

:hi:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:58 AM
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8. My husband dropped my friend and me off out front,
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:07 AM by ClayZ
and by the time he found parking and got back they had closed the doors. They broadcast the whole event outside to the thousands who were out there. They were freezing, but stood there the whole 3 hours. We were in the standing room only section, on the 2nd level. It was a great day!

Caucus tomorrow!



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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:59 AM
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10. great pics
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:05 AM
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11. I have not been to an event so well attended since
I saw the Rolling Stones do VOODOO Lounge! :-)

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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:10 AM
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14. But wasn't that in the Kingdome?
(may it rest in dust)
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:19 AM
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17. We saw them at The Tacoma Dome.
We watched them drop the King Dome from the sky bridge at the Market.

It was the first thing I thougt of when I saw the World Trade center go down on TV.


:hide:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:11 AM
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15. Wow1
Must have been great.

I heard that he came out and spoke to the overflow folks for some time!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:26 AM
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20. Before and after he spoke with the overflow.
He is pretty amazing! His speech was brilliant. Did you watch the YouTube up thread?

In the middle of his speech, a young lady got dizzy in the group directly in front of the stage. He stopped his speech, asked her if she was ok. He then asked people to get her a chair. He called out for medics, and then said, "now where was I". Someone yelled out SEATTLE!

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:41 AM
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26. here also is the link to Omaha
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:38 AM
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24. my friend frenchie here is the link
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:20 AM
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18. Hillary is the Establishment candidate, the candidate of "groups"
Barack Obama is the candidate of America. Hillary is the candidate of "groups" and voters who just vote for her because she is the name they know.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:17 AM
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36. Candidate of America....
and that's something to be proud of? The same America that elected George Bush, twice? The same America that believes it's OK to give away their civil liberties for the false feeling of security? The same America that overwhelmingly believes in a magical cloud being who micromanages everyone's lives? The same America who thinks Ronald Reagan was the best President ever? The same America that thought it just dandy to impeach a President for getting a blow-job, but that it's OK to lie our country into a war killing hundreds of thousands of innocent humans?

Yeah, tell me how smart Americans are. :eyes: Americans are notorious for being sheep; mindless drones that will attach themselves to any charismatic snake-oil salesman with a good line of bullshit and a winning smile. All of Obama's main catch phrases; hope, belief, change.....all intangible, emotional poppycock, specifically designed to get the sheep into a single herd so they can be slaughtered at will.

Obama is very charismatic, but he's all form and no substance. Yeah, he's a good sheep herder alright.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:40 AM
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25. WTG Seattle....wooooo.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:44 AM by cooolandrew
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:42 AM
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37. Go Seattle!!
Bring 'em in! Yes, we can!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:05 PM
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40. oh. I'm sooo discouraged now.
mean old grantcart:cry:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:13 PM
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41. did you actually have a point to make?
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