AP-Super Tuesday results: Obama leads Hillary by 2 delegates, with 91 delegates remaining.

[Hart2008]

Obama leads Clinton by only 2 delegates

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 45 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Three days after the voting ended, the race for Democratic delegates in Super Tuesday's contests was still too close to call. With nearly 1,600 delegates from Tuesday contests awarded, Sen. Barack Obama led by two delegates Friday night, with 91 delegates still to be awarded. Obama won 796 delegates in Tuesday's contests, to 794 for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, according to an analysis of voting results by The Associated Press.
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Nearly a third of the outstanding delegates are from Colorado, a state where Obama won the popular vote. California, a state that Clinton carried, had 20 Democratic delegates still to be awarded. Neither state expected to have complete results before next week.

Obama won the popular vote in 13 states Tuesday, while Clinton won in eight states and American Samoa.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080209/ap_on_el_pr/super_tuesday_delegates
(edit to add link)

So approximately 30 delegates are from Colorado, which Obama won 67% to 32%.

Twenty delegates are from California where Clinton won 52% to 42%.

So Obama appears to have the edge to finish with more delegates from Super Tuesday.

:applause:

[andyrowe]

1. Man. I was prepared for another close GE, but this primary

is totally unreal.

[dkf]

2. Doesn't matter. Next batch of delegates coming up.

[Hart2008]

7. This is now a fight for each and every delegate. Winning the most pledged delegates matters. n/t

[dkf]

8. Yeah but the outcome for the last batch of delegates is already set, but not known.

Can't do anything about them anymore.

On the other hand, we have all these nice new votes coming in.

[respublicus]

3. Why Obama is a sure loser in November debacle against McCain-Lieberman

The list of states captured by Obama on Feb. 5 is largely a joke, except for Illinois and a couple of others. He proudly lists Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, North Dakota, and Utah. What do these states have in common? They are states which a Democrat could never win in a general election. Under the Electoral College system, Democratic votes in these states are worthless – they will be thrown away.

How many people are there in the Alaska Democratic Party? The caucus turnout seems to have been below 1,000 people. Idaho is one of the most reactionary states – the Democratic Party there could meet in a phone booth. The same goes for Utah...

What can we do with a Democratic candidate who cannot win California, New York, Texas, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida – cannot win even the skewed Democratic primary voters of these critical states?

(Democratic primary voters tend to be more liberal elitest than the electorate - that's the curse of the Democratic party, always nominating unelectable candidates like McGovern or Mondale}...

The key to replacing the old reactionary Southern strategy of the Republicans may well be a Southwest strategy for progressive Democrats. We have already noted that Mrs. Clinton has carried the Latino vote by a margin of two to one… we must especially stress Mrs. Clinton's ability to carry California, Arizona, and New Mexico.

Because of her ascendancy among Latino voters, it may well prove possible to add Texas to this voting bloc If we can succeed in detaching Texas from the reactionary Republican solid South of the past 40 years, something that Latino votes will help to make possible, then the future path of virtually any Republican to the White House is permanently barred.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WarOnFreedom/message/4184

[thesubstanceofdreams]

4. Clinton winning Texas? LOL!!!!!!!!!!

This post was serious enough to warrant a serious response until the blurb about Clinton being able to win TX. ROFL.

[TexasObserver]

10. Obama could very well take Texas.

Remember when everyone thought Clinton was going to win 19 of 22 races on Super Tuesday? When was that? Oh yeah, about ten days ago.

As for the general election, I don't know if Obama will win Texas or not, but if he loses Texas, it won't be the disasterous loss that Hillary would bring at the top of the ticket. She's going to kill off Democrats in Texas by the hundreds if she tops the ticket in November. It matters whether we lose by 1 point or 15, and it matters to every Democrat in the state running for office in November.

Even without Texas, I think Obama wins the national election with ease versus McCain. It should be a big victory. I expect Obama to win the traditional Democratic states, and add to that some states in the South, Midwest, and West that we usually lose.

The opposite is true of Hillary. She'll lose all but a few really big, coastal states.

[Hart2008]

11. Poll after poll shows that Obama is a better match against McCain than Hillary.

I wouldn't assume that anyone wins in November "with ease", but Hillary Clinton is the worst possible candidate to nominate.

I want to celbrate the inauguration of progressive Democratic president in January 2009, not sit around complainting about four more years of a Republican administration with or without majorities in the Congress.

Hillary is toxic in many parts of the country.

:puke:

[RLS21]

13. Obama Doesn't Beat McCain in Electoral College

The poles that show Obama beating McCain are poular vote poles.
Winning the presidency means winning the electoral college. Obama at the head of the ticket puts Calif., New York and PA in play as well as giving Florida to the Republicans without a fight.

Nobody has noticed but Hillary has a 200 to 123 electoral college lead over Barack. This vote doesn't matter in the primaries but means everything in the general election.

[TexasObserver]

15. Nonsense. Hillary won't 15 states in the general election.

Obama will win 30-35 states.

[Carrieyazel]

17. That is absurd. No way Obama wins more than 20 states.

I'd love to see how you get to 35 states for Obama. You must be giving him Georgia, Alabama, Kansas etc. No way he wins these in a general.

[Hart2008]

19. Hillary could top Mondale and lose all 50!

Her negatives are that high, approaching 50% negatives.

It is very hard for a candidate with those kind of numbers to win in November.

Hillary probably needs a third party candidate to have a chance in the GE.

:crazy:

[TexasObserver]

14. Hillary has no better than a 50-50 chance to beat McCain

"I'm like him, but not quite as bad" isn't much of a campaign theme.

[cali]

5. Let's clear something up

What states either one took in the Primary has little to do with the performance of either in the general. Do some research. Dems are highly pleased with BOTH candidates and will vote for whoever is the nominee.

Furthermore, no dem candidate will win TX. It's simply not going to happen.

[TomClash]

6. This post is daft

Alaska? Idaho? You could make the same claim about Montana and Wyoming - but oops you can't - both states now have Dem Governors.

Hillary won OK and TENN, like we'll win those states in the GE.


Winning Texas? With Hillary? Yeah, right.

Obama wi independents and moderate Rpublicans. How again does that make him unelectable?

[Carrieyazel]

16. Good analysis overall, but winning states that we are supposed to win, doesn't help us either.

We need to win battleground states in the general election. There's only a handful of them. Both Hillary and Obama are in a world of hurt when it comes to winning these states. Most are dead-center or conservative-leaning, like Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Ohio etc. A McCain candidacy definitely brings serious problems for us. I can't see the electoral map changing all that much with either one. And McCain should carry most of these battlegrounds.

Florida looks to be gone, with McCain as the nominee, and its large military presence. Also New Hampshire is a state where the electorate really likes McCain, and we might lose that one in the fall, despite the Dem gains down the ticket in 2006.

[Hart2008]

9. Kick for peole who don't read before posting new threads.

This thread was first.

:eyes:

[TexasObserver]

12. Agreed.

[cooolandrew]

18. Wooo, you go Barack.