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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:47 AM
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The Nation: Obama For President
The Nation: Obama For President
Editors Say Democrat's Ability To Forge Progressive Majority Makes Him The Best Choice

The Nation) This column was written by the editors of The Nation

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As this year's front-loaded primary calendar took shape, capped off with the February 5 Super-Mega-Duper Tuesday, many voters once again resigned themselves to watching from the sidelines as a few early states got the privilege of choosing the party's nominee. Yet despite a schedule tailor-made to benefit the establishment candidate and confer an early victory, we are, somewhat miraculously, in the midst of the most contested primary race in 24 years. We are all Iowans now.

This state of affairs is thanks almost entirely to the campaign of Barack Obama, who, because of his background and his relatively brief time in the national spotlight, is a truly improbable contender for the presidency. This magazine has been critical of the senator from Illinois for his closeness to Wall Street; his unwillingness to lay out an ambitious progressive agenda on health care, housing and other domestic policy issues; and for post partisan rhetoric that seems to ignore the manifest failure of conservatism over these past seven years. But as Christopher Hayes argued in our cover story last week, Obama has also exhibited a more humane and wise approach to foreign policy, opposing the Iraq War while Hillary Clinton voted for it, and has been a reliable progressive ally over the course of his career. While his rhetoric about "unity" can be troubling, it also embodies a savvy strategy to redefine the center of American politics and build a coalition by reaching out to independent and Republican voters disgruntled and disgusted with what the Bush era has wrought. Most important, we feel his candidacy, in its demonstrated investment in organizing and grassroots activism as well as his personal appeal, represents the best chance to forge a new progressive majority. For these reasons we support Obama for President.

Obama's brand of grassroots politics should serve him well in the coming weeks. He has already galvanized a new class of supporters, delivered on the promise of turning out new voters and raised an astonishing amount of money from hundreds of thousands of small donors. In the February contests in caucus states, he can leverage his superior organizing, and in liberal primary states like Maryland and Wisconsin, he can leverage his progressive support in the wake of John Edwards's exit. But the Obama coalition is relatively weak among Latino voters, as well as among the core Democratic constituencies of the elderly and the working class, who are most focused on bread-and-butter basics: making the economy work for the non-rich. As a moral and political imperative, he would do well to seize the mantle of equitable redistribution and broad economic security for those who live their lives on the precipice of bankruptcy and disaster.

While some will fret about the effect on the eventual nominee of a prolonged battle, the upwelling of small-d democratic enthusiasm in this primary — all those impassioned e-mails, phone calls, canvassing sessions and Facebook postings — has reaped real results: record turnout in the first four contests and on Super Tuesday. While the GOP appears to be on the verge of nominating old war (mongering) horse John McCain, Democrats will likely remain divided, and that's quite all right. Primaries are more than just the means of choosing a nominee; they are an opportunity to weave together networks capable of pushing the country, inch by inch, in a new direction. There's nothing quite like the novel experience of casting a meaningful vote to stoke the aspirations and energies of citizens of conscience. As we move toward November, we'll need all the energy we can get.

By the editors of The Naton
Reprinted with permission from The Nation.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/08/opinion/main3807653.shtml
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:48 AM
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1. Very interesting.
Thank you for posting this.

Nominated.
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sloppyjoe25s Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:26 PM
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31. Can't Hardly K&R Hard & Fast Enough!
Perfectly put the electability case by The Nation.

Also - For the dopes hung up on the "cultism" - Obama is Savvy to be able to build such a following, while maintaining a strong liberal voting record across the board. THAT TAKES SUBSTANCE, and is the answer to Hillary, Inc.

VIVA OBAMA!!


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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:48 AM
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2. Enough said!
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:50 AM
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3. Bingo.
I don't disagree.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:55 AM
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4. "As we move toward November, we'll need all the energy we can get." Amen! GOBAMA!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:00 AM
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7. Wha? So energy, excitement, and inspiration are good?!
I thought folks here were sayin...

:bounce:
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:58 AM
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5. Nice. Kicked and Recommended. The Nation is one of the best Progressive publications out there.
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BritishDemocrat Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:59 AM
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6. Any democrat!! n/t
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:02 AM
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8. There's no doubt that the country is hungry for a change, for some unity...
for some common sense. And a person capable of speaking out against a war when it is unpopular. That is called fortitude. It is also called leadership.

Gobama. Our next President, if we're wise enough to choose. Here he is. A unique and gifted leader. We have a chance to nominate someone truly special, a real natural leader, someone with common sense and an appeal to the majority of Americans. Will we step up to the plate? Or will we do the same ol' same ol', as in years past?

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:11 PM
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53. politicians are like dirty diapers, we need to change them n/t
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:17 AM
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9. I'll be danged.
Good for them!
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:19 AM
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10. That is AWESOME!
glad to see The Nation supporting the only progressive candidate left in the race.

GOBAMA!

END THE WAR NOW!
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:58 AM
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11. "Democrats will likely remain divided, and that's quite all right."
"Primaries are more than just the means of choosing a nominee; they are an opportunity to weave together networks . . ."

Great article! We CAN be optimistic.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:16 AM
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12. Immensely gratifying.
Thank you for sharing this article.



Peace:thumbsup:
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:18 AM
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13. KnR
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:19 AM
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14. Viva Obama!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:19 AM
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15. Leave it to The Nation to NAIL IT ! K&R
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:49 AM
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16. K&R n/t
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mistaT Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:50 AM
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17. Get out the vote DU-ers!
we are getting smoked in the day of fame vote....
http://www.dayoffame.com Someone start a thread about this! Free publicity!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:54 AM
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18. the key sentence for me:
"Obama has also exhibited a more humane and wise approach to foreign policy, opposing the Iraq War while Hillary Clinton voted for it, and has been a reliable progressive ally over the course of his career. While his rhetoric about "unity" can be troubling, it also embodies a savvy strategy to redefine the center of American politics and build a coalition by reaching out to independent and Republican voters disgruntled and disgusted with what the Bush era has wrought."

He's "reliably progressive", says The Nation--one of the most progressive magazines out there. And his reaching out to independents and Republican voters is not selling out, it's smart. That's why I'm convinced he's our best choice.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:18 PM
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20. he is "reliably progressive", I prefer a candidate who plays poker well, Obama has his poker face on
We have to win first, or it is all for naught. Candidates like JFK, Bill Clinton & Obama don't happen often.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:59 AM
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19. The Nation: Hillary Inc. :
ARTICLE | posted May 17, 2007 (June 4, 2007 issue)
Hillary Inc.

ARI BERMAN


-snip
It's a rousing speech, though ultimately not very convincing. If Clinton really wanted to curtail the influence of the powerful, she might start with the advisers to her own campaign, who represent some of the weightiest interests in corporate America. Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, not only polls for America's biggest companies but also runs one of the world's premier PR agencies. A bevy of current and former Hillary advisers, including her communications guru, Howard Wolfson, are linked to a prominent lobbying and PR firm--the Glover Park Group--that has cozied up to the pharmaceutical industry and Rupert Murdoch. Her fundraiser in chief, Terry McAuliffe, has the priciest Rolodex in Washington, luring high-rolling contributors to Clinton's campaign. Her husband, since leaving the presidency, has made millions giving speeches and counsel to investment banks like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. They house, in addition to other Wall Street firms, the Clintons' closest economic advisers, such as Bob Rubin and Roger Altman, whose DC brain trust, the Hamilton Project, is Clinton's economic team in waiting. Even the liberal in her camp, former deputy chief of staff Harold Ickes, has lobbied for the telecom and healthcare industries, including a for-profit nursing home association indicted in Texas for improperly funneling money to disgraced former House majority leader Tom DeLay. "She's got a deeper bench of big money and corporate supporters than her competitors," says Eli Attie, a former speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. Not only is Hillary more reliant on large donations and corporate money than her Democratic rivals, but advisers in her inner circle are closely affiliated with unionbusters, GOP operatives, conservative media and other Democratic Party antagonists.

It's not exactly an advertisement for the working-class hero, or a picture her campaign freely displays. Her lengthy support for the Iraq War is Clinton's biggest liability in Democratic primary circles. But her ties to corporate America say as much, if not more, about what she values and cast doubt on her ability and willingness to fight for the progressive policies she claims to champion. She is "running to help and restore the great middle class in our country," Wolfson says. So was Bill in 1992. He was for "putting people first." Then he entered the White House and pushed for NAFTA, signed welfare reform, consolidated the airwaves through the Telecommunications Act of 1996 (leading to Clear Channel's takeover) and cleared the mergers of mega-banks. Would the First Lady do any different? Ever since the defeat of healthcare reform, Hillary has been a committed incrementalist, describing herself as a creature of the "moderate, sensible center" whom business admires and rewards. During her six years in the Senate, she's rarely been out front on difficult economic issues. Given her proximity to money and power, it's not hard to figure out why she keeps controversial figures close to her--even if their work becomes a liability for her campaign.

-snip

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070604/berman
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:09 PM
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48. read the above post.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:20 PM
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21. Awesome!
I hope the tide is turning in his favor.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:22 PM
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22. I agree. Obama will also bring Senate and House seats with him.
He was the one on the trail in 06. Helping people win. Ask JIm Webb. Obama helped him
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:01 PM
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23. Oh, we all know that The Nation is too far right so this doesn't count.
:sarcasm:



P.S. Great news! :woohoo:
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:28 PM
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24. I am glad someone posted this
I'm not a flame-monger, but after seeing a day-ful of nasty posting on DU, I woke up in the middle of the night with the thought that if Hillary has lost control of her campaign, how in the world can we expect her to run the country. While I was admonishing people not to "pile on," that a temporary cash flow problem should not be anything to rejoice about, a bunch of pro-Hillary people started panicking and attacking Obama supporters, Obama, and using the c-word ad-nauseum.

It looks like things have calmed down a bit today, but I am more and more worried that Hillary doesn't have what it takes, on top of being way too used to being able to go on attack, to the point she thinks it's okay even against people in her own party (whichever way she ends up justifying it, in her own mind). That's not what this Party or this campaign is supposed to be about.

Stick to the issues. Let us know what you're gonna do, not what people think about your response or lack thereof to an opponent's stance. Stick to message. Please.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:37 PM
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25. Kewl!
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:58 PM
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26. Obama's best endorsement yet
Seriously, The Nation's backing is a big deal for me and the editors get it right on the money here with both Obama's weaknesses and strengths ... and he's still tops!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:00 PM
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27. Now now...let's not overstate the case. Remember...
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:02 PM
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29. LOL
See, that's the kinda coalition Obama can build ... The Hulk and The Nation together at last!
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:45 PM
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46. I'm sure the Hulkamaniac ...

This is so cynical. The Hulkamaniac is obviously just angling for a job on the anti-steroids commission. ;-)


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Signofthetime Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:01 PM
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28. That's big
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:18 AM
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62. Welcome to DU!
:donut:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:07 PM
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30. I agree with their analysis - lots of great points. nt
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:43 PM
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32. K&R!
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:50 PM
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33. GO, OBAMA, GO!
All the way to the White House! Woo hoo!
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:59 PM
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34. congratulations on the consolation prize, since Edwards is out
The Nation's perpetual arguments in favor of Edwards didn't seem to matter to you all. Now, The Nation is important, suddenly?

I can't take it.


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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:20 PM
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35. While his rhetoric about "unity" can be troubling
why is unity troubling? sounds like some bullshit tom delay would say. I have a ton of conservative friends and i want a president who will represent them as well as me, not someone who caters to a small sect of ideologues like bush
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:43 PM
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36. Voters would be turning out in record numbers even if Obama wasn't there
They are coming out out of necessity to stop the disaster Bush has put in play with the full support of the republican party. Something must be done about Global warming immediately and the country is almost at the point of armed revolution to stoop the fascist shift taking place. Voters are saying enough is enough and we are not going to take this anymore. Our current dem leaders are failing us because they claim they don't have enough of a majority so we'll give them one. Either Clinton or Obama will get ahead of our parade to stop this republican profiteering disaster but neither are that progressive. Both still allow the insurance profiteers to flourish from our health care. Neither is calling for a NOT FOR PROFIT healthcare plan so corporations will still be denying treatment for previous conditions etc to increase their bottom line...profit. Neither is calling fro a drastic reduction of billions from the DoD. Neither are calling for accountability for those who are responsible for the murder of millions and the destruction of our constitution. The only "progressive" candidate we had was Kucinich.
Higher Education used to be free before Reagan...now these two are settling for "more affordable". How can they say the are going to get rid of the influence of lobbyists when they allow corporations to handle our healthcare.
Fuck the nation...who are they to say we should just accept what these not so progressive candidates are laying at our feet. they should be doing more to pressure them into listening to our demands not throwing us bones. Out of Iraq but they are still threatening regime change in Iran (against our UN charter agreement) unless Iran changes its behavior and becomes more like its acceptable neighbors like...Pakistan...Eygpt? I want accountability not appeasement. These corps aren't going to give up any thing that brings in profits and power. Obama needs to sharpen his elbows. There is a reason Bobby Kennedy Jr. supports Clinton...reality What Obama calls "bad actors" we call traitors and murderers. Maybe Obama needs to watch Gonzales and Bush actually mocking a retarded death row woman with facial and hand gestures after denying her appeal for clemency and having her executed. Torture used to be appauling and now it is legalized and widely practiced. Bad actors my ass. Obama better start showing some fangs and quit expecting those who support such tactics to suddenly turn liberal or progressive. The only thing the nation got right is that we need to come together to support whoever wins the nomination and redirect them to be the progressives we are hoping for.
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COFoothills Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:51 PM
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39. I don't agree.
Voters wouldn't be turning out at all if Obama wasn't running because Hillary would have already been coronated.

This is great for the party, and great for the country.
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COFoothills Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:49 PM
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37. Very well put...
... and very aligned with my own thinking and my own rationale for supporting Obama.

Thanks for posting.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:50 PM
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38. excellent!
:)
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dragon82a Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:05 PM
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40. CLINTON v. OBAMA on LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE:


Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years including the following:

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.

These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov).

Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.

During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included the following:

**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:08 PM
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47. uh-oh now we have to deprogram the Nation
don't they realize that they're part of a cult?
Probably been smoking to much pot and listening to John Lennon. :sarcasm:
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:41 PM
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51. i love the ignore button
everytime i see someone responding negativly to an ignore I know I did the right thing :)
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:08 PM
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52. To be quite honest I thought I was responding to the thread
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 09:11 PM by Gonnabuymeagun
I can't keep people on ignore. I like a good fight.

On edit. I rather enjoyed the post I accidentally responded to.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:34 PM
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41. I'm happy to see this and give it a K&R. n/t
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:49 PM
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42. That seals the deal for me
Before it was, at least he isn't hillary, then teddy endorsed, then I started looking at hills money and her advisors, then I saw this. I now believe that Obama will be good for the nation instead of the lesser of two evils.

weather he is JFK or not remains to be seen.
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progdog Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:55 PM
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43. Thanks for posting this. n/t
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:23 PM
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44. Bravo!!!
A new day dawning.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:32 PM
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45. Obama has not only
promised to end the Iraq occupation as soon as possible, but he is the ONLY one to promote an international force to police Iraq to stay until the government is stabilized. Whereas Clinton only gave tepid promises to bring the troop back, as soon as practicable. That could mean McCain's '100 years.' HC doesn't give me comfort that she is not going to protect the oil interests.
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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:38 PM
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49. Great endorsement
this should solidify the base for Barack a little bit.
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:38 PM
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50. Agreed... Indeed! Yes we Can!
Obama represents the most progressive views of any candidate I've ever seen. He said it wouldn't be easy but I believe the people who truly want change line up right with him. And I believe that Obama will change the mindset about wars and health care and the economy and those that resist change will come along eventually. Obama is the breath of fresh air in the room and no one regret his nomination. He shows very good judgment unlike the establishment candidate.

Anybody who wants more of the same line up behind Clinton and the established old guard politicians.

Anybody who wants drastic change, line up behind the true change candidate. I my heart I believe Obama as the change candidate will be the people's choice as the president for all Americans, no matter what their stripe. He is the most honest and definitely the most transparent of all of the candidates.

We want to move this country forward. Obama gives us that opportunity. No to the status quo. A RESOUNDING YES FOR CHANGE.

GOBAMA!!!

YES WE CAN!
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:16 PM
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54. former subscriber
I subscribed to the Nation 15-20 years ago. The magazine of that era would have dismissed both candidates as tweedle dee- tweedle dum. 7+ years of GWB has brought a LOT of people into "the mainstream"...
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:30 PM
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55. they have to work within the confines
and even now the election of the lesser of two evils is a fight everyone needs to be in.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:57 PM
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56. Game, set, and match!
Go Dems!
:dem:
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:00 PM
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57. great pick up
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Aptastik Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:07 PM
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58. This is just a republican rag that dems hate, no credibility
:sarcasm:
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:28 PM
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59. End Republican Rule!!!!!
Whereas, the Republicans do not generally believe in Bi-partisanship, Barak Obama, and Hillary Clinton Do. No more 4 years of McCain, a Vote for McCain is a vote for 4 more years of idiotic, and hateful policies. A Compassionate Conservative, and a Leprechaun were at a bar...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:51 AM
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60. K&R. (nt)
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:11 AM
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61. "represents the best chance to forge a new progressive majority."
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:37 AM
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63. Rhetoric almost as pretty as Obama's but lacking the same element-
past proof that the rhetoric will produce ANY result even vaguely related to the promises. Obama sounds great in theory, and flowery on the stump, but I've yet to hear a convincing argument of how his past accomplishments will withstand the crushing criticism and scrutiny that will come from the repubs.
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