Clinton win in Louisiana?

[woolldog]

CNN is hinting that Clinton will win in LA. Anyone have news?

[Drunken Irishman]

1. I didn't get that at all and I'm watching CNN.

They just said turn out is low.

[woolldog]

4. You have to read between the lines...(eom)

[bilgewaterbill]

7. "Read between the lines?"

Pray tell, O Nostradamus, what will the margin of victory be?

[Perky]

50. yeah if you put on rose-colored glasses and stuff one ear full of cotton

stand on one leg. I can see how that might be a way to read between the lines to reach that conclusion.

LOL

[Hieronymus]

26. I'm watching CNN too, and heard no such thing.

[democrattotheend]

52. Turnout is low in New Orleans

If recent exit polling in other states is indicative, that's really bad news for Obama.

[woolldog]

57. those

were my thoughts as well. We'll see I guess

[bilgewaterbill]

2. When do the polls close?

[NOLALady]

99. 8 pm CST

[Kittycat]

3. All I've heard is that there's very low turnout.

[HughMoran]

5. That seems highly unlikely

based on past history.

[woolldog]

6. 10 days ago I would've agreed.

But it looks like he might lose LA.

[jefferson_dem]

11. Hillary should definitely win...LA and the rest of the states.

She's got the fabled Clinton Machine, a stellar fundraising operation, gobs of establishment-type power-players, etc. all behind her. I just hope Obama can keep pace. He's already exceeded expectations. Anything more would be incredible.

[joshcryer]

33. Please stop the "lowered expectations" meme. Obama is slated to win most of them.

Maine was the only one even remotely in contention, and Obama's presence there has completely made it look like Hillary has lost thing thing across the board.

[Thrill]

40. Obama is the underdog......But don't count him out

He's a fighter

[joshcryer]

55. Obama is ahead in all polls and continues to have huge turnouts. He's not an underdog.

[HughMoran]

69. You're still playing the "underdog" meme

You're so funny!

[MadBadger]

9. I saw that LA has a black population of 32% pre-Katrina. I wonder what it is now though.

[NOLALady]

100. I had this discussion with hubby this AM.

He can't make it statewide with the black vote alone. Without New Orleans it's an uphill battle.

[Levgreee]

8. has anything even been reported yet?

How would they know Hillary won?

[Hailtothechimp]

10. Maybe by reporting it it will come to pass.

Like when Fox News called Florida for Bush in 2000.

Remember that CNN is as bad as anyone when it comes to pushing Clinton on us.

[bilgewaterbill]

13. I have CNN on and have seen NOTHING to support this claim!

[COFoothills]

12. Not my take either..

Turnout is lower than expected, which surprises considering how high turnouts seem to be the norm elsewhere.

But to say that this benefits either candidate at this point is impossible to say.

Maybe they gave up politics for lent after the Mardi Gras. As corrupt and disgusting as Louisiana politics are, I can't say I would blame them.

[Tropics_Dude83]

14. There are no LA exit polls

So she knows nothing that she's not telling. Just guessing.

[woolldog]

16. They've been stressing

lots of older white female voters have been voting and no one else. The Geritol set is Clinton's base.

[nonconformist]

25. And yet another age slam from you... "Geritol set"

And with that, I hobble away to the Early Bird Special at the local diner, being at my ripe old age of 34.

[Little Star]

35. You're right, chalk up another group to be minimalized in this election. nt

[jlake]

41. Ageism is vile.

[weisenheimer]

79. Ageism

That's ironic, coming from a candidate who wasn't ashamed to peddle her town hall meeting/advertisement on the HALLMARK channel for heavens sake. And at the end of a nationally televised debate no less. Classless.

[Hoof Hearted]

81. You spent all that time wondering when to make your first post and what to say

and it makes no sense at all. You're babbling. Try to keep up.

[bilgewaterbill]

92. Mom! Daddy spanked the baby!

[jlake]

97. FREEPER!

[bilgewaterbill]

27. WTF channel are you watching? That was NOT on CNN!

[Iktomiwicasa]

53. You hit it exactly...

....she's watching the WTF Network:wtf:

[bilgewaterbill]

60. LOLOLOL!!!

[juajen]

28. I resemble that remark. Without us you wouldn't be here, buster.

Most of us are a hell of a lot wiser than most voters, and, we take voting seriously. I do know what's probably happening, though. We have had several weeks of bad weather. Today the sun is shining and it's 74 degrees. Most of the younguns are out on their boats partying. We'll see how serious they are. I could be wrong. Polls do not close here until 8pm. It's around 4pm now, so, we have several hours to go.

[woolldog]

38. I sort of agree

But I think the democratic party is being held hostage by a coalition who can't produce a win in November.

[Straight Shooter]

44. Geritol, that's what keeps me going for my daily 4-mile hikes.

I just don't know what I'd do without my Geritol. Thank goodness it doesn't stain my dentures, though. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go change my Depends.

[democrattotheend]

54. That's bad news

I made some calls earlier and most of the people I talked to were African American...they said they had voted or were planning to, most for Obama, but a lot of phone numbers in New Orleans had been disconnected...probably about 1/3 of the numbers I called.

[Hoof Hearted]

80. Shove it up your spoiled little ass. My teen & twenty nieces caucused for Hillary today.

I'm pretty sure they would tell you to grow up.

[NOLALady]

104. A lot of older white females

have been calling in on the talk shows saying they're sending money to Obama's campaign. I know they may change their minds when they vote. But, they've been voicing hatred for HRC (she should hsve divorced her husband! and other silly crap) I don't know what to make of it.

[bilgewaterbill]

18. LA has primaries for BOTH parties today.

I can't see low Dem turnout but low 'pub turnout is likely.

[juajen]

24. Why does everyone always pick on LA? I have lived in four southern states.

Believe me ours is not the first dem governor to go to jail. Corrupt politicians were not invented by Louisiana.

[okasha]

39. But Louisiana and Texas

between them pretty much perfected a certain type of corruption. :hi:

(Texan here, who personally knew the guy who did the actual theft of Box 13.)

[Straight Shooter]

64. I remember the governor of Tennessee being indicted for an early release bribe scheme.

What a dipwad he was.

[Yossariant]

66. True, but that "Vote for the crook. It's important." bumper sticker is a classic!

And the Democratic governor of my state went to jail, too.

:hi:

[NOLALady]

101. I had to go to a funeral in New Orleans on the day of

the election Nov 07. The people were out in droves. It looked like Mardis Gras. They were stopping cars, giving out flyers, reminding everyone to vote.

I have a hard time believing the turnout is low in New Orleans. I could be wrong, but I've seen them in action.

[Bullet1987]

15. I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary won due to low Black turnout...

I told people not to take LA for granted because of Hurricane Katrina.

[dchill]

49. I think...

some white people may vote for Obama, as well.

[Sir Jeffrey]

17. Suzanne Malveaux said low turnout was due to cynicism...

that people were not really inspired to go vote because they were sick of the political process and felt that the Feds wouldn't do anything to help. Her sources estimated around 15% turnout.

I interpreted that analysis one of three ways:

1. Not a lot of Republicans showing up to vote, or

2. Low turnout means Hillary benefits because up to this point Obama seems to benefit from higher turnout, or

3. The only people going to the polls are those who want to vote for the "change" candidate.

I did *not* see anything hinting at a Clinton victory...even reading between the lines.

[BklynChick]

20. voter turnout is low. this is due to people down there losing faith in federal govt, it could hurt

Obama but I still think he'll win.

[Sir Jeffrey]

32. Well...that's what she said...

and it was highly subjective on her part. There may be some truth to it, or it could be complete bullshit. It seems plausible to me since the Feds basically left people there to die.

I still think Obama will win too, btw.

[bilgewaterbill]

21. Excellent, fact-based analysis!!

[Sir Jeffrey]

30. It says a lot about my recent experience with DU-P...

when I have no idea whether this comment is a compliment or a biting insult that strikes me to my very core.


:hi:

[bilgewaterbill]

31. LOL! It was a compliment.

This whole thread is based on someone's "reading between the lines!"

[woolldog]

23. It's all about

demographics buddy. It's not favoring Obama. If Obama loses LA then THAT will be the story of the day and it will nullify everything else he wins. This is un-fucking-real.

[joshcryer]

34. That's a good point, if he loses LA it'll be seen as a "surprise." And the media will cover it.

[jenmito]

19. I saw earlier today that they reported very low turnout and the people they asked ALL said they

voted for Obama. They didn't ask many people-but still...

[Fabio]

22. Lousiana's post Katrina demographics are still unkown.

should be interesting. I hope overall dem. turnout is strong.

[Little Star]

37. That's what I was wondering. What the demographics are post katrina.

Will alot of displaced be voting absentee?

[Fabio]

58. Not sure.

But it sounds as if many folks from New Orleans hardest hit areas have relocated to other southern cities -- in particular Atlanta and Houston.

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[Drunken Irishman]

36. Right, because calling them stepford-Obamas is real mature.

Hypocrite alrert. :)

[K Gardner]

42. LOL !

[Lisa0825]

43. Pot, meet kettle.

You have GOT to be joking... do you really NOT see how immature and hateful your OWN words are? If you are serious, it's really laughable how blinded you must be.

[thevoiceofreason]

61. Another twit-like post from uncle benny

[SoxFan]

68. STFU

[Thrill]

45. Apparently very low turnout in LA

Unreal. IF anyone should be voting it should be them

[jackson_dem]

46. If Hillary beats the Obama in Louisana it will be a huge upset

Obama has the financial advantage, the msm behind him, and Louisiana is about one third black. Obama has not gotten lower than 78% of the black vote anywhere (and he was consistently in the mid to high 80's on Super Tuesday) and if he loses Louisiana it will be because he got clobbered among whites.

[democrattotheend]

56. A lot of blacks in NOLA have been displaced

About 1/3 of the numbers I called in what seemed to be a mostly African American area of New Orleans this morning had been disconnected. A bunch of others just rang and rang with no answering machine.

[Fabio]

59. interesting. thanks for the report.

[thevoiceofreason]

65. Obama doesn't have the financial advantage.

From what I've read, over the entire campaign their fundraising is about equal (he caught up to her 2007 advantage in January). So, she has CNN (Clinton News Network) comletely on her side, so the MSM meme is bs too. His advantage there? Not really heavily polled, is my recollection. Point is, he is the underdog, always has been.

Hopefully he can pull out La. Remember, Louisiana has a large racist segment to it (remember Mr. Duke?), especially in the north (which is really just Southern Arkansas). So, along with the mass exodus of black voters from the NO area (many of whom are still gone), the state really has been a HRC bastion. She has downplayed it well, because she needs an "oh my gosh, I won THAT state" boost to her flagging message.

[jackson_dem]

70. Louisana is one of two states with minority governors

Their fund raising was equal but Obama pulled ahead by $20 million last month and that is a significant sum. Most of the 2007 money has been spent.

Blacks still constitute a large share of the Democratic vote in Lousiana and with Obama getting at least 80% black support there is no way he should lose the state.

The media thing can be debated but is off topic on this thread. All I will say is look at who is getting newspaper endorsements at a 3.2:1 rate...

[thevoiceofreason]

71. He's Indian by lineage

Hardly a classic minority.

And, he's a fire-breathing rethug. Bobby Jindal, the minorities' friend. Sheez.

[jackson_dem]

72. He's a minority of 1%. Obama is a minority of 32%

The fact a brown person could get elected post-9/11 was quite an accomplishment, even though he is a rethug. Asians and Latinos also have to face the "real American" BS. Jindal had to go out of his way to show he was a "real American." I don't recall Deval Patrick having to do that.

Louisiana can hardly be tarred as racist when it is one of only two states to have a minority governor. Only four states have ever done it. If Jindal could win when his group is 1% of the population then surely the "inspiring" Obama can win when he starts with 80-88% support from one-third of the population (and close to half the Democratic vote). Obama starts with over 40% in a Democratic contest just from his black support. Jindal started with something like 0.5%.

[Leopolds Ghost]

74. Bobby Jindal ran on a skinhead vote, "law and order" "chain gang" platform.

He wants to close down all the public schools and public housing in
New Orleans (much like Hillary, I might add.) He praised the sherriffs
who shot at black people trying to flee as "heroes" who were defending
their municipality from "thugs".

Skinheads like him because, as an "Aryan" Indian, he's one of the
few "colored" people they can vote for and inoculate themselves against charges of racism.

Sort of like with AG Gonzales (hispanic), Jefferson Parish sherriff
Harry Lee (an unreconstructed racist appointed during the David Duke era
-- and Asian), Judge Perez in Plaquemines Parish (worse than the KKK, he
was excommunicated by the Black Catholic bishop) or Marcus Garvey (who was
wined and dined by the KKK for his separatist teachings).

Bobby Jindal is a "beard" for the racist right. He got a lot of
self-hating middle class black vote from New Orleanians who said
"at least he's not white, he'll impose law and order, and the
Dems have abandoned us anyway"

[jackson_dem]

85. We know how much racists love Asians

:sarcasm:

[thevoiceofreason]

75. Show me once where

In Louisiana, someone of Indian lineage was turned down housing, or a job, or an education.

Befoe you talk about Louisiana, learn about Louisiana. He's considered Anglo there

And why don't you address my points on his sucking up to big business, etc.

Bobby Jindal will complete, forever, the damage to Louisiana's wetlands. I suggest you go visit them soon, becuase they will be gone during your lifetime. He doesn't give a rats-ass. "But, but, but, he's a minority."

[jackson_dem]

83. Indians have it so easy in America

As do Asians in general. Look at all the Asian presidential candidates (0), Asian governors (1), Asian senators (0), Asian television and movie stars, etc. :sarcasm:

More "unity" from Obamites. Don't even acknowledge racism toward other minority groups. :eyes:

Maybe you need to learn more about the Asian experience in America. Did Deval Patrick have to "prove" that he is a "real American" like Jindal and before him Matt Fong and Gary Locke had to?

Jindal sucks. That isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about whether his state is racist. It clearly isn't and he proves it. The idea that a guy starting with only 0.5% from "his group" had it easier than a guy who starts the Democratic caucus in Louisana at over 40% due to support from "his group" makes no sense.

[AX10]

84. kick

[jackson_dem]

86. I am undecided between the two celebrity candidates

But if one thing keeps pulling me toward Hillary it is the type of folks Obama is attracting to his campaign. I've just been told a lifetime of racism against me, an Asian, never existed while I am told by these same folks of how a prep school, Columbia and Harvard educated millionaire is "beating the odds" by winning presidential primaries. Get back to me when an Asian wins a presidential primary, let alone seriously contends like Obama...They are correct about Jindal's privilege. They are equally as blind about Obama's. Ivy Leaguers becoming governors and senators. Who would have thunk it!

[AX10]

90. You are welcome to the Hillary camp at anytime.

The problem with the left is that their political correctness has gone to far.
They are of the belief that only blacks face discrimination. That is why you are hearing about those who oppose Obama as being "racist". I am an independent with a Strong libertarian streak. I am proud of both of those traits. They are who I am. I have always felt removed from the elite left in this country despite having a strong intellectual background as they do.
I never bought into the militant PC crap. That is not to say that you should be offending people, but come on, they have gone too far.
I prefer Hillary because of her experience. She has been vetting like no one else has been. She also has concrete plans to deal with this nation's problems.

[thevoiceofreason]

95. Jackson

I didn't say that. My statements are solely related to Louisiana, and how the white majority of the population there treats people of other races. Hell, years ago, they treated hispanics as equals, but they certainly have decided to reverse that course over the last 20 years. What I am saying is that I have not witnessed prejudice, in Louisiana, toward Asians. That's all.

And sounds like you've made up your mind anyhow.

[thevoiceofreason]

89. Nope. Wrong again

Louisiana may be veyr progressive on that point -- they don't look at people from India, or with an Indian background, as different. They sure as hell discriminate, at every possible juncture, against the blacks. I could go on, but I won't. You don't know a damn thing about Louisiana, do you.

[jackson_dem]

94. You don't know a damn thing about being Asian in America

Again, did Deval Patrick have to "prove" he was a "real American" like Jindal and before him Matt Fong and Gary Locke?

[thevoiceofreason]

96. You are right, I don't.

I am just stating what I have seen, or not seen.

I fully agree that Asian Americans are discriminated against. I see it often, just I haven't in Louisiana. That's all I am saying.

[woolldog]

98. Just put him on ignore

I have 2 people on ignore and he's one of them.

[jackson_dem]

105. Sorry tvor

I always get angry whenever I think of the racist bull, especially the "real American" garbage, I had to put up with growing up and still see rear its ugly head. Jindal is a rethug but in any state a minority winning is a big achievement, even if arguably it would be harder for a black candidate in Louisiana. There is a reason there is only 1 Asian governor and 0 Latino governors. Latinos and Asian's have to face the race hurdle just like blacks, unlike the 49 white governors.

[NOLALady]

102. This state is racist.

Jindal won because he ran as a Republican.

There are many poor people in this state who feel that voting and identifying with Republicans will somehow make their lives better. In their minds, Republicans will never help people of color. The fact that the Republicans are also p...ing on them is too much for them to grasp. They prefer to blame "the others" for their sorry lives. They would have voted for Jindal if he was rainbow colored.

How anyone can live here and not be aware of the racism is unreal.

[jackson_dem]

103. There are no white Republicans in "racist" Louisana?

How'd he beat a bunch of white candidates in the 2003 primary?

[dchill]

47. Nope.

That's not what they are saying. Just that turnout is low - as expected.

[blitzen]

48. Not a chance....CNN is clueless about the LA primary

They should be reporting from Baton Rouge, where there's a vote on approving a new casino. Heavy black turnout in this 34% percent black city--now the largest in LA.

[woolldog]

51. ok

that's good to hear.

[jackson_dem]

62. Obama has the advantage in advertising

-snip-

There, too, the better-financed Obama campaign has dominated the air war all week with radio and TV ads. Clinton's campaign purchased late-week radio ads in hopes of rallying her supporters to turn out today.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/livecoverage/?hpid=topnews

[thevoiceofreason]

67. He had to to overcome the institution advantage of HRC

She had name recognition and many many favors to collect on from the years her husband was pres.

[mrmx9]

73. Fox's provisional exit poll results imply an Obama victory

Most people thought the economy was the most important issue and Obama had a clear lead over Hillary amongst this group. Surely Hillary can't win LA given the very large African American population there?

[thevoiceofreason]

77. A tribute to Obama

Paying personal attention to the state, as opposed to sending the surrogate president once removed.

[woolldog]

78. That's good news

I'm actually an Obama supporter. I guess most people responding haven't read my past posts.

[jackson_dem]

88. Good news for the entire state

They wouldn't be tarred as racist now.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

63. Hi, woolldog!

:hi:

[woolldog]

76. Hi Rummy!

LOL. Now THAT is funny. :hi:

[AX10]

82. What did they say that would make you think that?

:shrug:

[woolldog]

87. They

said it was mainly older white women that were voting.

[jenmito]

91. But I saw that exit polls showed the main issue was the economy and those people favored

OBAMA in LA! Something like 56% to 44%!

[woolldog]

93. cool

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.