Hillary attacking Obama's ability to give a great speech........

[Hieronymus]

That's more of the Atwater/Rove tactic .. attack you opponent's strong point.

[Vinca]

1. Who are you going to trust - me or your lying eyes??

Obama gives a great speech.

[buff2]

5. Yeah,but I'm getting worn out with the "change" thingy

Geesus,we get it already. :eyes:

[Tellurian]

8. Obama hasn't given a great speech since 04'

and why they use that "one timer" in his political ads..

In fact what is strange, the verbiage they use from the 04' speech indicates there is One America, when essentially Obama's campaign platform (no GLBT, no use for Boomers, pro-religion) divides America.!! Now there is a Lee Atwater axiom personified!

[buff2]

2. I've been watching CNN

That is not true and you know it.

[Hieronymus]

6. I just heard Hillary say that on CNN .. a minute before I posted it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

9. I am watching CNN too and she did NOT say any such thing....what a tool you are!

please prove your arsine accusation

[UALRBSofL]

12. Bingo, tool is a perfect word

And I'm watching CNN as well.

[HughMoran]

16. I watched it too - this post is a total fabrication

What a bunch of fucking ass holes post here at times!

:puke:

[IrishBloodEngHeart]

3. I feel sorry for Bill and Hillary

they've been dragged through the mud so much by the republicans, they seem to always be on the defensive and always negative.

[HughMoran]

17. This post is a fabrication!!

You just love to pile on - even if the poster is just making SHIT UP!

Jesus this place is filled with pathetic posters!

[Auntie Bush]

18. And now the far left is dragging them through the mud too...Nice!

[L0oniX]

4. As long as the speech giver can do better than Bushnazi, that's good enough for me.

[maddiejoan]

7. So pretty much

anybody then?

[Thrill]

10. She'll do anything

You seem surprised

[Hieronymus]

15. Actually, I shouldn't be surprised. It is pure Rovian. Swiftboating .....

Kerry on his strongest points, was the ultimate.

[Auntie Bush]

26. Isn't that what the Obamites were/are doing when the attack her for

her experience...like she's old hat and they are young with new and fresh ideas. Why isn't that the same thing? What a hypocrite!

[HughMoran]

20. This post is a fabrication!!

You didn't even watch it - you're just piling on as usual.

Facts aren't necessary when you're already filled with hate.

[BlackVelvet04]

11. Oh for fuck's sake.....

drop the stupid and childish atwater/rove meme. Politicians have been doing that forever.

Politics wasn't invented by Atwater and Rove.

[Hieronymus]

19. Wow, a Democratic Atwater/Rove fan.

[BlackVelvet04]

22. and that's just as fucking stupid...

what a bunch of morons.

[BlackVelvet04]

25. n/t

[libertee]

13. Nice guy he is..speech giver he ain't...too many ah, aws and pauses...

[HughMoran]

23. This post is a fabrication!!

Please don't feed the fish.

[hill08]

14. Obama should be

a preacher if he is a great speech giver. Or self help guru. Not a President

[Faygo Kid]

27. Wrong. Our greatest presidents have often been our greatest speech givers.

The ability to inspire is crucial. How about these speech givers?




Of course, there is always the other end of the spectrum - the inability to even be coherent:

[Hieronymus]

32. You bet, well said, and illustrated.

[NastyRiffraff]

21. What *exactly* did she say?

Quote, please? And in context.

[Hieronymus]

28. What a leap .. from Edwards to Hillary.

[rjx]

24. One thing is certain

The atmosphere at Obama's speeches are much more energetic than Clinton's. Obama gets the crowed really anxious and motivated where Clinton's crowds seem engaged, but lacking any kind of excitement and determination.

[MADem]

29. He puts me to sleep. NT

[Hieronymus]

30. Obama appeals to better educated and younger voters than Hillary does.

[MADem]

31. That's what the media tells me.

I think he appeals to self-absorbed, high-income/fucked if the economy really tanks, high-end wine drinkers, myself.

I know doctors and PhD's who support Clinton, along with working people. The only Obama supporters I know are people who are not too intellectually rigorous, to be plain, and a load of "kids" who don't know how he comes down on the issues.