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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:44 PM
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What is Hilary Clinton's position on Kyle-Lieberman
I've heard her explain her vote on the IWR, but never on Kyle-Lieberman. Why did she vote yes on this bill?
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:46 PM
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1. Depends upon which audience she's speaking to on any given day.
Just like the vast majority of her views.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:52 PM
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2. They had an NIE report, and testimony saying that part of the IRG
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 05:53 PM by wlucinda
was aiding those attacking and killing US soldiers and Iraqis in Iraq.

After Dems required the authors to alter the original harsh text, she voted for the non-binding sense of the senate that was intended to publically call out the IRG and put diplomatic pressure on Iran.


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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:53 PM
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3. Shes a bigger warmonger than
McCain.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:59 PM
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5. You didn't answer the OP's question. As usual you just give your snarky little quips. So typical
:eyes:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:58 PM
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4. Oh you'll love this...
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 06:00 PM by TwoSparkles
Hillary Clinton's explanation for her Iraq War Vote (I wasn't REALLLLY voting for war, you know)
is almost as pathetic and disjointed as her explanation for her "yes" on Kyl/Lieberman.

As you know, Kyl/Lieberman declares that the Iranian National Guard---which is actually an official
arm of the Iranian government, is defined as "a terrorist organization".

She is rarely asked about this vote. It seems like she gets very defensive when anyone brings it
up.

However, I am in Iowa and I was able to see an Iowan ask her about Kyl/Lieberman during one
of her campaign events in Davenport, Iowa. He asked her about Kyl/Lieberman and she got
really defensive. He said he was concerned that Kyl/Lieberman helped Bush launch a propaganda
war against Iran, the next country Bush wanted to invade.

Oh. Did Hillary get angry. She accused the questioner of being a plant! He shot back and said
he was a voter and he did research and he just wanted her to explain the vote.

She dismissed him and said that her vote was to " help foster diplomacy" between the United States
and Iran. Hillary said she felt that by dealing strongly with Iran, they would be more likely to
negotiate.

Yeah right. Some of my best "team oriented" moments come after I've accused someone of being a terrorist.

I suppose if Hillary can claim that her vote on the "Iraqi War Resolution" was not a vote for war, then
should we be suprised that she claims that a vote which declared a government "a terrorist organization, was
actually a way to "foster diplomacy"?

I don't even listen to her words anymore. Her votes are votes for war. She enables the neocons
and greases that neocon war machine with her votes...every time. Period.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:33 PM
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8. Wow!
What was the reaction of the crowd when one of their own was accused of being a plant?

What an awful thing for her to have said. That's how she deals with people who disagree with her?

That's frighteningly reminiscent of Bush, IMO.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:02 PM
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6. Here:


September 26, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment

Washington, DC – “Earlier today, I voted for a non-binding resolution that designates the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. The Revolutionary Guards are deeply involved in Iran's nuclear program and have substantial links with Hezbollah.

“I voted for this resolution in order to apply greater diplomatic pressure on Iran. This resolution in no way authorizes or sanctions military action against Iran and instead seeks to end the Bush Administration's diplomatic inaction in the region.

“Iran has gained expanded influence in Iraq and the region as a result of the Bush Administration's polices which have also rejected diplomacy as a tool for addressing Iranian ambitions. While the United States has spurned talks, Iran has enhanced its nuclear enrichment capabilities, armed Iraqi Shiite militias, funneled arms to Hezbollah and subsidized Hamas, even as the government continues to damage its own citizens by mismanaging the economy and increasing political and social repression.

“I continue to support and advocate for a policy of entering into talks with Iran, because robust diplomacy is a prerequisite to achieving our aims.

“This legislation reaffirms my policy of engagement and refers specifically to the statement of Defense Secretary Gates who said that "diplomatic and economic means" are "by far the preferable approach" for dealing with the threat posed by Iran.


“In February, after troubling reports about the possibility of military action against Iran, I took to the Senate Floor to warn that President Bush needs Congressional Authorization before attacking Iran. Specifically, I said it would be a mistake of historical proportion if the Administration thought that the 2002 resolution authorizing force against Iraq was a blank check for the use of force against Iran without further and explicit Congressional authorization. Nor should the President think that the 2001 resolution authorizing force after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, in any way, authorizes force against Iran. If the Administration believes that any use of force against Iran is necessary, the President must come to Congress to seek that authority.

“Nothing in this resolution changes that.”


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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:30 PM
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7. Missionary.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:36 PM
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9. The Israel Lobby wanted Kyl-Lieberman passed. Hillary carried out her orders!
There won't be any peace with Hillary in the White House, but more of the same failed Middle East policies that have done so much harm to so many since 1967.
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