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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:14 PM
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Clinton and Obama tied in my precinct.--WA state. 2 delegates each
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 06:34 PM by Evergreen Emerald
My daughter and I are delegates. It was quite a fun experience. The gym held several precincts, the amount of people who showed up exceeded expectations. There were hundreds.

We all chose sides (tied) and after debates where nearly everyone spoke, no one changed their minds!

Everyone agreed that no matter who is chosen, they will vote for the nominee. One woman said she is not voting for Obama, because his wife said she would not necessarily vote for the democratic nominee. People were upset by that statement.

It was quite an experience. And, my daughter's first caucus.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:15 PM
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1. Ooh, where were you in the state?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:16 PM
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4. Olympia (the state capital)
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:15 PM
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2. kick
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:15 PM
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3. So you get to go to the state party right?
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 06:16 PM by Bleachers7
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:18 PM
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7. Not necessarily. We go to the legislative district caucuses and then
the county convention.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:22 PM
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16. Jeez
So you have to work your way through all that? Are you going to try to move up?
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:18 PM
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10. Next are legislative districts, then county conventions.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 06:19 PM by tofunut
Then congressional district, then state.

I'm glad they're scheduled on Saturdays!

edit: missed one!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:22 PM
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18. That's a lot of BS to deal with.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:34 PM
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38. It is, but as long as it is on Saturday, I can do it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:17 PM
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5. And you were sure to correct her
and tell her Michelle never said that, right?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:18 PM
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9. Of course not. Much more in line with Clinton Camp to further a lie to get a vote.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:21 PM
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13. I would ask you to stop calling me a liar. I have researched the issues
and made a choice for the candidate that think will be best for America. I did not correct anyone who spoke, no matter if I disagreed with them or not.

In this case, I heard the same thing on DU, but I did not say that.

You and I can disagree and I can give you a list of lies Obama tells to get elected. But I would ask you to stop attacking me.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:23 PM
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22. My remark was generalized and not addressed or aimed at/to you. If you researched, you knew
what was posted on DU was a twisted distortion. No matter. I wasn't attacking you. I was making an observation about your candidate and her "Camp".
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:59 PM
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45. "Of course not. Much more in line with OBAMA Camp to further a lie to get a vote."
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:19 PM
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11. I had heard that on DU, are you suggesting that she did not say that?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:21 PM
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15. She said she wouldn't *necessarily* campaign/support the nominee.
Not that she wouldn't vote for the nominee (Obama).
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:22 PM
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19. Right. That is what the woman said. Everyone there said they would
vote for the democratic nominee no matter who it was. And the woman said that Michelle Obama did not say that she would.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:24 PM
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For god's sakes, cut it out. You're twisting again !
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:26 PM
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31. And "campaign for" is NOT the same as "vote" for. She was never asked if she would
vote for Hillary. She was asked if she would campaign and WORK FOR her. Michelle said she'd have to think about it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:23 PM
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23. your duplicity is really stunning.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:25 PM
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29. Cali: Michelle Obama said that she would not necessarily vote for the democratic nominee
if it were Clinton. Now, we can parse words if you want to...but that is what she said.

And, the caucus is not DU where attacks are common place. The woman was correct.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:27 PM
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34. She did NOT say that. Please provide the exact quote where she said that she would not VOTE
for Hillary.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:31 PM
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36. really, that is just not true
it's disappointing to hear this stuff repeated as if it were true. part of me thinks YOU were the one who said Ms Obama said she wouldn't vote for Sen Clinton. Just terrible.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:17 PM
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6. Neat, can I ask what co this was in?
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:19 PM
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12. Upthread she said Olympia, so it was Thurston
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:18 PM
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8. Was yours a closed caucus?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:25 PM
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26. In WA, caucuses are semi-open
Anyone can show up and participate, but you have to register as a Democrat at the caucus.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:21 PM
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14. And of course you, as a good dem corrected the woman
re Michelle Obama. Right? Right?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:22 PM
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17. The person may be misinformed, please don't attack them. They gave a nice overview of their caucus.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:23 PM
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21. Ummm....Michelle did say that...she did not say she would support the democratic nominee.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:25 PM
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27. That doesn't mean she wouldn't vote for them, big big difference.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:23 PM
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20. And since Michelle Obama never said she wouldn't vote for the nominee...
... you were really quick to correct that woman, right? In the interest of fairness, and accuracy?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:24 PM
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24. actually, she did say that she would not necessarily vote for the nominee.
It was in the context of everyone agreeing that we would support the democratic nominee, and a woman said that Michelle Obama would not say that.

So, no correction needed.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:26 PM
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30. Wring
The question to her was focused on whether she would work for HRC.

Big diff.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:26 PM
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32. It seems you're confusing "support" for "vote," and basically it changes the more you post.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:30 PM
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35. No, your context is off.
"Working to support" and "voting" are two entirely different things. The person at your caucus twisted Michelle Obama's words, and that should have been corrected.

I certainly would have corrected her.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:27 PM
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33. Here is what MO said:
“I’d have to think about that. I’d have to think about policies, her approach, her tone,” she said in an interview Monday morning on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:33 PM
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37. It's a good snip, but the reality is in the context.
Remember, Michelle Obama went on to say, "You know, everyone in this party is going to work hard for whoever the nominee is. I think that we're all working for the same thing. and, you know, I think our goal is to make sure that the person in the White House is going to take this country in a different direction. I happen to believe that Barack is the only person who can really do that."



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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:42 PM
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40. doublespeak first she say she will have to meditate on it then on yeah she will.
Give me a freakin break, please.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:50 PM
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41. No, I won't give you a break, because accuracy actually matters.
You know for a fact that Michelle Obama never said she won't vote for the eventual nominee.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:56 PM
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48. The fact is she
alluded to it, and that's what people hear......

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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:24 PM
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25. Thanks for the report Evergreen!! sounds great! nt
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mchill Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:25 PM
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28. Got a phone call from a friend in Seattle
His precinct when 67 Obama to 18 for Hillary....if I recall correctly, Hillary got 1 delegat to Obama's 5 or 6 and honestly, I don't know if that was for the whole place or just his group of 85. The turnout was double of 2004
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:37 PM
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39. My precinct was 3 Obama - 2 Clinton. I am a delegate for the former.
It was very entertaining.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:52 PM
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42. Michelle's comment was discussed at length on...
John Rothman's show on KGO San Francisco early this morning. When asked if she would support the Democratic nominee, Michelle had to pause and think about it. There should have been no pause, no reflection time. No one has asked Hillary that question so I won't try to put words in her mouth.

Little things like this are what the cameras and mics are focused on right now. This was an error in Michelle's preparation for the interview.

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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:55 PM
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43. My precinct was 8 Obama, 3 Clinton.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:57 PM
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44. Nice you could go with your daughter for first time voting experience.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:08 PM
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46. I know! She is a delegate too. I was very proud of her. she spoke her mind
about "change" and what it means to her and why she is supporting Clinton. People were impressed that the youngest one at the caucus was so articulate!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:27 PM
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47. my neice will vote first time in WI next few weeks. talked to last week--i was
pleasantly surprized she was quite filled in on her choice also--HILLARY

best
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