ABC News: Bill Clinton has started lying about Obama...AGAIN!

[BluegrassDem]

I'm so glad ABC News called out lying Bill again. Bill Clinton said at a rally that 'Obama explicitly said that the 90's were worse in comparison to the Bush years.' The ABC reporter called out Bill and said that Obama has NEVER said such a thing.

As a matter of fact, in the last debate, Obama mentioned that the 90's looked good compared to the past 8 years.

Why must Bill Clinton continue to lie? He's the biggest liar. I really can't stand him anymore. It's fine to talk about Hillary all he wants, but no need to tell a flat out lie about Obama.

[thevoiceofreason]

1. Bill (I got yapped at for calling him Bubba)

once again shoving his head, Waldo-like, into the camera.

Yeah, I want 4 years of that shit.

[Tellurian]

19. Your word is worth -O- "air"..please post a LINK or...SLINK!

[thevoiceofreason]

22. Why is that a response to me, moran?

I cited nothing.

[BluegrassDem]

24. It was ABC News tonight at 6pm EST. It was a report...not linkable yet

I'm sure ABCnews.com will have it online later. Trust me, Clinton said what he said and the reporter said that Obama never said such a thing. I'm not lying about this.

[Cha]

38. bil is bubba now...if bubba means

lyin' your ass off in front of the tv camera and behind it to get hilary back to the whitehouse so he go around the world with pappy bush and tell 'em what a great country we have since bush 2 is gone..oh wait..pappy said no. But, nevermind, I'm sure bubba will find someone with gravitas to travel the globe with 'im.

[tularetom]

2. The small dog has lost his mojo

[Whisp]

13. he's starting to look like a mangey mutt dragging his dirty ass on your good carpet. nt

[griffi94]

35. yea those sorry ass clintons

i wish they had stayed in arkansas...that way we could have had continuous repub rule from 80 till now
stupid fuckers how dare they keep the democratic party alive thru the 90s....sorry bastards
don't they know it's time to wish and change...and that obama is the light bringer...and savior of the democratic party...only he can lead us to the promised land because oprah said so...besides he's fresh and new.....i can understand gettin pissed in a heated race...but goddamn the clintons are being treated worse than tom delay on this board....the repubs have caused more fucking headaches and heartaches for the clintons than probly any other political figures in the last 100 years....but fuck those candy asses....obama rules...rules i say.....i think i'm switching to independent so i can vote for mccain....fuck at least i don't expect decency from the gop

[Cha]

39. You're right about the

"stupid fuckers" part.

[Whisp]

46. don't strain your juice, pal. n/t

[thunder rising]

3. He is reminding everybody of why his coat tails were so short we lost the entire government.

[Barack_America]

8. Amen to that! n/t

[skooooo]

4. It worked well for Obama before.....

....so just keep shooting your mouth off, Bill.

[TeamJordan23]

5. Keep going Bill....it turned out great for you in SC. nm

[Cha]

40. What is he?

Tonedeaf?

[MH1]

6. Bill needs to siddown and shaddup.

Instead of lying like this.

Sigh.

[TexasObserver]

7. Like Bush, Bill lies so much he can't tell when he's lying and when he's not.

[Barack_America]

9. He's Bill Clinton, reality is what he says it is.

Arrogant twit.

And to think I used to respect that guy.

[Whisp]

10. mics and cameras are like magnets for him

he just can't help himself. poor guy. feet of clay. mouth of ill repuke.

[dkf]

11. Poor Bill. He's got such a complex that he's made up stuff in his own mind.

He is turning into a laughingstock. Not good.

[neutron]

12. Clinton was a better president that Obama could ever hope to be

in his wildest right wing dreams

[bilgewaterbill]

17. Bill is running out of time before he no longer matters.

If Hillary doesn't win the nomination he will fade into obscurity. It must be killing him.

[NJSecularist]

14. Hopefully Bill keeps opening his mouth

He's the most valuable asset the Obama campaign has.

[marcellobarrios]

15. Another thread with no link

Because it's a TV show, so there, we don't need no stinking link!
We are forced to believe whatever spin the OP has. We believe that Clinton said what the OP said he said, and that the ABC reporter said what he said.

But people will recommend this post anyway, because it makes them happy.

[frazzled]

16. Didn't Clinton say just yesterday he wasn't going to do this kind of thing again?

That didn't last long.

[marcellobarrios]

21. And how do you know the OP is telling the truth about what happened in ABC?

were you watching ABC at the time?

Or are you blindly believing that the anonymous OP is accurately quoting Clinton's and the journalist's words?

[FrenchieCat]

18. Do you think he ever planned on stopping?

[sam sarrha]

20. worse for what social level.. and no F'n way were the 90's worse.i was there, bought our first house

on an 'honest loan', had my best job ever...

if you are in the richest 4% you are do'n good now, get'n richer, the middle class is losing income every year that wet brain alcoholic Moran is in office

these accusations are just free incense at the airport.. no thanks, show some links if you can find them anywhere other than Fox News

again i do not support hillery, i an tired of the hate based on spin

[Big Blue Marble]

26. What are you babbling about?

Did you read the thread or just start your rant?

[Cha]

42. Your knee jerk reaction has no basis

in the reality of this thread. The OP said bil was lying about what Obama said..Obama never made such a statement about the clinton admin.

Save your rage for reality or the fucking lying clintons.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

23. It just kills Bill to see another Democrat outshining him

[BluegrassDem]

27. You hit the nail...Bill Clinton is a jealous mofo

His days have long past and it's virtually killing him inside. I can't imagine the curse words he calls Obama everyday. Obama is Bill Clinton with morals and no baggage. Bill Clinton wishes that he could've inspired the way Obama has.

[libertee]

36. delusional observation

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

50. meaningless response

[polichick]

25. It'll backfire on him...

People are sick of Clintonian bullshit.

[Meshuga]

28. Throwing shit to see if it sticks

Bill Clinton is good at that. I hope he would just go away and shut up. HRC does much better without Bill running his mouth.

[Radical Activist]

29. I'm so tired of being lied to by Bill Clinton.

He needs to have a long sit down with Jimmy Carter about how ex-presidents are supposed to act and what they're supposed to do besides get rich on the lecture circuit.

[OHdem10]

30. Obama did say there was change under Regan but no

change under Bush I and Bill Clinton.

[K Gardner]

31. Bill and Hill went to the same Crooks and Liars University, evidently.

[Evergreen Emerald]

32. Obama Directly Attacks Bill's Presidency, Blames It For Massive Dem Losses

In what may be Obama's most direct and aggressive criticism of Bill Clinton's presidency yet, the Obama campaign dropped a new mailer just before Super Tuesday that blasts "the Clintons" for wreaking massive losses on the Democratic party throughout the 1990s.

"8 years of the Clintons, major losses for Democrats across the nation," reads the mailer, which goes on to list the post-1992 losses suffered by Dems among governors, Senators and members of the House of Representatives. The mailer was forwarded to us by a political operative who told us it was sent to Alaska, though it was probably sent elsewhere, too.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/obama_directly_attacks_bills_p.php

I have NEVER seen a reporter call Obama on his lies. And here we have Clinton telling the truth--and a reporter bashes him with lies. That propaganda machine is still out to get the Clintons.

[libertee]

34. yes, and the reporter on ABC news is hearing about it tonight..

[Evergreen Emerald]

41. what amazes me is that every one of these responses just believes the reporter and nods in agreement

with the attack on Clinton. No one. Cares about the truth.

[GoldieAZ49]

51. as if Bill Clinton ever had any regard for the truth

once you are a proven liar, you have no moral high ground to stand on, he has no one to blame but himself, nor do you.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

43. I agree with him! We did lose seats in the 90s and WJC was the head of our party at the time

Hence, he oversaw a major loss of Democratic legislative seats.

[pdxmom]

44. What is a lie in that mailer? N/T

[ursi]

33. Bill Clinton is a meglomanic ...he wants his way

[Canuckistanian]

37. You know, I'm beginning to respect The Big Dawg less and less these days

It seems obvious that BC has given up on the traditional Ex-President mantle of "statesman" to be just another partisan operative.

I expected better.

[sjdnb]

45. Well, actually, for Dems he did

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/obama_directly_attacks_bills_p.php

Obama Directly Attacks Bill's Presidency, Blames It For Massive Dem Losses
By Greg Sargent - February 6, 2008, 12:38PM

In what may be Obama's most direct and aggressive criticism of Bill Clinton's presidency yet, the Obama campaign dropped a new mailer just before Super Tuesday that blasts "the Clintons" for wreaking massive losses on the Democratic party throughout the 1990s.

"8 years of the Clintons, major losses for Democrats across the nation," reads the mailer, which goes on to list the post-1992 losses suffered by Dems among governors, Senators and members of the House of Representatives. The mailer was forwarded to us by a political operative who told us it was sent to Alaska, though it was probably sent elsewhere, too.

(Image included in article)

[bigtree]

47. That's the impression the media leaves as they present the comments

I think you're flailing against an impression of what he said. That's just too bad if someone interprets his words differently than he was trying to spin them. That's life.

[OzarkDem]

48. I've heard Obama supporters say it

and its hard to pin Obama down; he's a shapeshifter, he changes his speeches and opinions according to the audience he's addressing.

No, I'm taking Bill's side on this one. ABC, not so much.

[hedgehog]

52. As the poster said up-thread - you got a link for that?

I've heard a number of Obama's speeched now. The one after Iowa and the one after New Hampshire were fairly new, but I think even they incorporated elements of the same stump speech he is giving at every rally.

BTW Here's an article quoting Obama. Check out the date. He hasn't changed much in 12 years:


"The political debate is now so skewed, so limited, so distorted," said Obama. "People are hungry for community; they miss it. They are hungry for change.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/archive/barackobama/

At the time of the article, Obama was focused on his local neighborhood. The details are different, buit the essential message is the same.

[stillcool]

49. Maybe there is...

a need I mean.