Hillary should retire (from a Hil supporter)

[marcellobarrios]

I have been rooting for Hillary, but it is now clear that the few states she is projected to win are not enough to overcome the large leads that Obama got today and will likely get in upcoming caucuses.

I say Hillary should follow Romney's example and withdraw from the race.

I strongly believe this is over.

[HughMoran]

1. You're full of it

Stop with this charade.

[gateley]

2. I'm not a Hillary OR Obama supporter, but I thought that today's results were

pretty much expected, and that it's the belief that Hillary will pick up more in the next round -- keeping the whole race tight.

I think you might be a little premature in your projection. Don't give up!

[marcellobarrios]

9. This is the problem:

Where Hillary wins, she will do so by a short margin, IMO. I don't know if you agree with me. Today's wins will further strengthen favorable views about Obama throughout the nation.

And if you take Texas, for example, Texas will be offset by many other states that Obama will win. Same goes for Ohio and PA.

[russian33]

32. I won't! (from Hillary Clinton herself)

if i say i'm Hillary, does it make me so?

Hill supporter my ass...

[gateley]

59. You may be right, but it's still way too early to throw in the towel. This

has switched back and forth so many times, both Dem AND Rep - so again, don't give up!

[papau]

72. Obama has now won 5 "blue states" and 13 "red"(of which 2 were "close red" in 04) - why would he be

stronger than Hillary in the general if he can not beat her in the "base" of a Democratic election victory in 08?

Below are results to date with 08 winning percent and Bush-Kerry 2004 vote totals.


Primaries

Alabama 56% 1,176,394 693,933
Connecticut 51% 693,826 857,488
Delaware 53% 171,660 200,152
Georgia 67% 1,914,254 1,366,149
Illinois 65% 2,346,608 2,891,989
Missouri 49% 1,455,713 1,259,171
South Carolina 55% 937,974 661,699
Utah 57% 663,742 241,199

Caucuses

Alaska 75% 190,889 111,025
Colorado 67% 1,101,255 1,001,732
Idaho 79% 409,235 181,098
Iowa 38% 751,957 741,898
Kansas 74% 736,456 434,993
Minnesota 67% 1,346,695 1,445,014
Nebraska 68% 512,814 254,328
North Dakota 61% 196,651 111,052
Washington 67% 1,304,894 1,510,201


Lousiana (likely win), 1,102,169 820,299

[surfermaw]

91. Maybe Obama should drop out,

He hasn't caught up with Hillary in deligates as of last night.

[11 Bravo]

3. And you arrived at that decision since coming onboard yesterday?

Dude, this shit might fly at Free Republic, but it really won't wash here.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. Indeed...good call

I'm an Obama supporter, but this thing is far from over, and the OP is an obvious shill. I, for one, call bullshit on the OP.

[NoPasaran]

83. Yes, Hillary supporter?

Cheese eating surrender monkey is more like it!

[kurth]

22. HC will announce retirement tomorrow based on his recommendation

LOL.

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[marcellobarrios]

14. I don't get it

what's the range of posts that a Hillary supporter must have?

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[Proud2BAmurkin]

5. Feel the Obamath

[kerry-is-my-prez]

7. Based on him winning 3 states??? It was predicatble the Obama would win these 3 states.

The next few primaries he will also probably win. Hillary is winning the swing states and the larger states.

[Darth_Kitten]

8. I think some Hillary detractors need to lay off the sauce a bit.

:)

[BlackVelvet04]

10. Bullshit. n/t

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[ElsewheresDaughter]

12. Someday, we'll look back on this and what you said, laugh nervously and change the subject......

but you Obama cicadas won't be here on DU after the Primary

[goldcanyonaz]

13. Uh huh...

[frogcycle]

15. and your opinion is useful why?

[marcellobarrios]

21. It's useful to me

My mind will be in peace knowing that it's over; but the more you keep telling yourself that Hillary has a chance, the harder the blow will be when you realize that's not the case.

[robbedvoter]

26. 2 very eventful days on DU for you...Maybe you need one to just read and post less?

[marcellobarrios]

30. I wish you very, very good luck

You will need it.

Obama is expected to sweep all 3 states on february 12th. That's more momentum and press coverage.

[robbedvoter]

38. I wish you to go away. I will also need it.

[loveangelc]

16. lol...

[Exultant Democracy]

17. I'm an Obama supporter and I think you should simmer down. She isn't just some politician she is a

Clinton. Obama can't ever get cocky if he wants to win this, he has to run like he is 10 points behind no matter what happens.

[tammywammy]

18. I'm an Obama supporter

It's ridiculous to suggest she should quit. She should stay in as long as she wants.

[dailykoff]

25. She's going to drag out more and more shit like "cults"

and some of it is going to help McCain.

[tammywammy]

34. I see what you're saying

But in no way is this race over. She can stay in as long as she wants to. On the flip side, I'm sure Hillary feels Obama should drop out.

[dailykoff]

36. She's running an ugly campaign. I think she should pull the plug

instead of dragging her own and her family's legacy into the sludge.

[tammywammy]

41. It's her prerogative to do as she wants

:shrug:

[dailykoff]

48. Sure, but whether it's in the best interest of taking back the WH

is another question, and frankly I don't think it is.

[Yossariant]

20. Sure. Right. OK.

:crazy:

[dailykoff]

23. Hillary should have taken the hint when she tanked in Iowa.

But being a Clinton, she's going out in a flaming ball of shit.

[11 Bravo]

28. But, of course, if she's our party's nominee, you'll support her, right?

[dailykoff]

31. She's not. She's getting flattened.

Or haven't you noticed?

[11 Bravo]

55. Were I in your position, I wouldn't have been able to answer honestly either.

I could say, "Nice deflection", but actually, it was pretty fucking lame.

[dailykoff]

57. If the Dem nominee were to be Hillary

the best candidate on the ticket would probably be Cynthia McKinney.

[LiberalFighter]

62. That might be the death knell if she had a female as running mate

[Stand and Fight]

89. It would definitely be one if it was McKinney..

She is not viewed very favorably outside of DU.

[robbedvoter]

24. That was fast. You came, you turned around, you plunged the knife in the back..

Wow! With friends like you, who needs enemies?

[HughMoran]

33. You noticed that?

That's why I posted what I did immediately. Too bad a lot of folks are reacting to the poster as if they were legitimate.

[marcellobarrios]

35. Let's see. What makes you believe the post isn't "legitimate"? n/t

[HughMoran]

42. See post #24

JMHO

[marcellobarrios]

53. Post #24 says nothing about why you think my post is illegitimate

All you did was state that my post # was in the 60's, as if the number of posts determines who a person supports.

Those who have 1,000 posts have the same right as those who have 10 posts to be Hillary supporters.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

88. You ran and hid your profile pretty fast...

We already SAW you joined Feb. 8th (2 whole days ago)... enjoy your stay.

[robbedvoter]

39. Peggy Nooner is legitimate here is she says what they want to hear.

[LiberalFighter]

63. Noonan? No way is she legitimate!

[robbedvoter]

80. 2 treads on first page on her same article about Hillary losing - that looks

legitimate to me - you should have seen the cheering

[LiberalFighter]

64. Dupe

[Yurovsky]

27. She has to wait until TX & OH ...

too many delegates in those 2 states to throw in the towel now. While she has been leading in those states' polls, the current string of Obama victories (and the large margins in those wins) may well swing both Texas & Ohio to Obama. There are a LOT of black voters in the major metro areas of Texas (Houston, Dallas) & Austin has around 1,000,000 residents in the greater metro area that are VERY progressive (i.e. not Hillary-friendly). Ohio may have a lot of blue-collar whites that Hillary appeals to, but the big cities (Cleveland, Columbus, Cinncinati, et al) have large black populations that will vote for overwhelmingly for the next President of the United States, Barak Obama.

If Obama sweeps today, sweeps the VA/MD/DC contests, AND wins OH/TX, then Hillary may see the writing on the wall. But we're not there yet. Those of you on the progressive side of the party need to get out your checkbooks & credit cards and give to Obama NOW. This country must end 20 years of Bush/Clinton pro-war rule NOW.

GOBAMA (and please pick Dennis Kuncinich for your running mate if you get the nomination ....)

[Flabbergasted]

29. I'm not an anti-rec fan. But I would use it on this.

BTW Obama for me.

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[robbedvoter]

40. Alerted.

[marcellobarrios]

46. Alerted because I don't believe Hillary has a good chance?

Wow. Harsh.

[robbedvoter]

58. I sampled your other posts - the poll about the freepers, the dem DU

All alerted.

[Seabiscuit]

44. I don't believe you were ever a "Hill supporter".

This is just another Obamabot thread trashing Hillary. You're the same ones who started calling for Edwards to "drop out" immediately after Iowa. And you're the worst offenders of all on this board. I personally think you should all be tombstoned.

Meanwhile, welcome to my "ignore" button.

[marcellobarrios]

50. I posted a thread about a poll that says the Press hates Hillary

Among other pro-Hillary threads.
I don't see any support for your claim that I am against her.

[Seabiscuit]

79. If you were a Hillary supporter, you wouldn't demand she drop out. Period.

How's them apples when it comes to "support for (my) claim".

[robbedvoter]

60. No Obamabot. From the nether regions of the political spectrum. 2 days on DU

and already managed to attack both dem candidates.

[TexasObserver]

45. she should, but she won't ... it's always been all about Hillary

[Yurovsky]

49. And the Clintons are NOT graceful losers ...

it's only really happened once (when WJC lost the ARK gov mansion after his first term).

Well, OK, the 1994 elections were essentially a defeat for WJC, and then he turned around and pushed the GOP-friendly DLC agenda 100x harder.

That worked out GREAT, didn't it?????????

[TexasObserver]

52. they have overstayed their welcome, and they're a drag on the party

[Yurovsky]

85. Douglas Wilder made a comment on that very thing ...

saying that "they had their time". Absolutely.

If Hillary wants to make a real difference, she can start pushing a progressive agenda in the Senate. But the White House has seen 20 years of Bush/Clinton, and if you count the 8 years that GHWB was VP, its TWENTY EIGHT FREAKING YEARS.

Time to move on, pass the torch to a new generation, a generation born in the Sixties, not defined by the Sixties. My generation has had it's chance. Time for some youngbloods to actually move the country forward.

[HughMoran]

54. Looks like I made a mistake

taking you off ignore.

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[Adelante]

47. Nonsense nt

[bigtree]

51. before Ohio and Texas?

wishful thinking.

Lots more delegate opportunities for Clinton ahead

[LiberalFighter]

61. Totally NOT the same -- Clinton 1066 Obama 962 --- McClain 847 Romney 232

Needed to win nomination:

Clinton - 959
Obama ---1063

[dailykoff]

65. Are you counting Nebraska and Washington?

Also, are you counting superdelegates?

[LiberalFighter]

66. How can Nebraska and Washington be counted when we don't know the results?

And yes the SD's are included in count.

[dailykoff]

68. Well, add NE, WA, and LA, and subtract the superdelegates

because they'll back the popular favorite and that ain't gonna be Hilly.

[LiberalFighter]

70. What? Until at the minimum there is a breakdown of votes by district results shouldn't be counted.

Why should everything but SD's be added?

[LiberalFighter]

71. And you know what about the process?

[dailykoff]

73. I know elected officials won't back a loser

if they want to stay in office.

[LiberalFighter]

75. And enough of the voters will remember that when they vote...

the next time the elected person is up for re-election?

[dailykoff]

77. The voters are backing Obama. That's the point.

Hilly is losing and nobody loves a loser. Sorry, that's how it works in politics.

[Hoof Hearted]

67. Only Freepers would be stupid enough to believe your post.

Granted, there are a few slimy stooopid Freeper trolls that do hang out here on any given day, so you might be able to fool them, but we're not buying it here toots.

[mtnsnake]

74. Only a freeper would post a post like theirs to begin with. n/t

[blondeatlast]

69. Well, thank God you've found us to save us from all this primary foolishness.

I supported Edwards and now Obama and you can just, well, bite me.

Thanks. :eyes:

[robbedvoter]

81. Excellent answer!

:thumbsup:

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76. No.

[rox63]

78. I'm an Obama supporter, and I know this is far from over

And anyone who thinks that doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Kingofalldems]

82. Well thanks for the donation

A Hillary supporter who, although she leads in the delegate race, wants her to quit. I feel your concern.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

84. You Obviously Don't Know A Thing About This Process. You're Almost Embarrassing Yourself.

Such a tone of defeatism when there is no catalyst for it. Did you expect today's results to be different? I can tell you that the majority of people here didn't, cause we actually pay attention to stuff. The outcome is exactly the way it had been expected to be, so why the sudden tone of defeatism?

You obviously are wet behind the ears as it relates to this political process, because Hillary is of course still in this fight and in fact is still likely to be the nominee. So to post a thread with such conviction that it's just all over for her, speaks volumes as to your inexperience to the process and grip on this political reality. Sorry to say it, but it's true.

[aquarius dawning]

86. I think she should run as a third party candidate of some kind if she loses the primary

Who wants to start the petitions?

[0007]

87. To many pipe dreams you have marcellobarrios.

You have absolutely no idea what your ranting about.

[LostinVA]

90. Shoo! Just because your boy withdrew from the race, doesn't mean Hillary should

[BlackVelvet04]

92. Yeah, I'm so sure you are a Hillary supporter. n/t

[paulk]

93. I strongly believe that you are full of shit

both in your predictions and your statement of support

[TexasObserver]

94. It's good to see a Hillary supporter see the light.

If everyone lit just one little candle ....

[Jamastiene]

95. You don't sound like much of a supporter at all to me.

With support like that, who needs detractors?