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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:03 AM
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Do we all still think Hillary is going to win Maine tomorrow?
I'm not looking for chest puffing, but am seriously wondering. I was under the impression that she is supposed to win this - am I wrong? I ask because I see a number of threads saying Obama is easily going to win everything from now till March 4.

Anyone have any polls from the last day or so (as if these mean anything)?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:04 AM
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1. No polls, but I think Obama wins by four.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:05 AM
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2. Are you thinking Obama gets the Big Mo from tonight? nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM
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Well yes, but I just dont see how this is such a pro-Hillary state.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
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20. Usually, Maine votes like New Hampshire
So that's one reaon the pundits think Clinton is favored.

An interesting factor will be how French catholic voters go. Most people think they'll favor Hillary, and that means she takes Lewiston big. But who knows?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:07 AM
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13. Yes (even though you weren't asking me). nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:05 AM
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3. Is Maine winner take all?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:07 AM
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11. No state is winner take all.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:08 AM
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16. In the GOP Maine Primary it looked to be winner take all
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:12 AM
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28. Our rules are different.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:13 AM
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31. ok thanks
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:08 AM
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15. Not at all, but...
If Hillary loses Maine, I think her outside shot at Virginia pretty much goes up in smoke. And if Obama sweeps here, it will be really hard for Hillary to stop him in Wisconsin, which of course would make Obama's chances of winning in Texas better.

But if Hillary wins Maine, even if there are no real delegate advantages, I think she can make the case that she's still in the game for the upcoming states prior to March 4.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:10 AM
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23. I agree. If she wants to stop a chain of dominoes from falling, she needs a win somewhere in the...
line.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:05 AM
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4. I don't ever count on anything. To do so, is to become weak in the fight in my opinion. n/t
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM
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5. If Hillary's camp is sweating, then you know all you need to know about Maine
She isn't the prohibitive favorite that everybody thought she was.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM
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6. Polls wouldn't matter anyway
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM by NWHarkness
When you are expecting to double or even triple previous turnouts, accurate polling is impossible.

We had about 160 here (Belfast Me) in 2004, we are expecting between 300-400 tomorrow.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:14 AM
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32. great point...the turnout totals pretty much kill polls...nt
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM
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7. Hillary does great back east.
I think it will be a nailbiter.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM
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8. Hillary will win tomorrow by 5%.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM
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9. We will find out soon enough.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:07 AM
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10. Mainers aren't swayed the way we think they should be.
They're such independent thinkers. Could go either way.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:07 AM
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12. Maine is a caucus..

...I thought Obama was favored.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:08 AM
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14. I suppose she could win Maine, but I think he'll win it.
Anywhere he gets sufficient coverage and time to meet the public, he wins.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
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17. Some Analysis For You:
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:12 AM
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27. Thanks! I guess there just isn't anything definitive about...
these smaller states. We get spoiled by the early contests...I don't think the news organizations were really prepared for the race to go this far.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
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18. Election markets have Obama trading at 67 for Maine, Hillary at 40...
...so the money is on Obama.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
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19. Maine is a conservative east coast state. Hillary will win.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
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21. Intrade has Obama a near 3-to-1 favorite today.
Up a bit from yesterday. They were way wrong on New Hampshire, however.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:10 AM
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24. Intrade is pretty much discredited I think...they are as bad on politics as
most regular people are on the stock market. The initial allure of this idea made sense, but clearly they are truly poor predictors.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
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22. Is Hillary spending money in Maine - ads and staff?
Anyone know this?
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:12 AM
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26. Yes.
We are getting a lot of ads for both candidates on the Bangor stations.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:13 AM
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30. Cool - thanks! What's your feeling on the ground there?
Do you see real support for one or the other? How's the local coverage playing this?
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:41 AM
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33. I think the local coverage has been very fair
Good coverage both campaign's events, nice interviews. Maine people have great bullshit detectors, and the local media knows it.

Here in Waldo county, I predict a solid Obama win. Dems here are generally very progressive. If Kucinich and Edwards were still in it, they'd both draw heavily here.

Statewide, I think it will be close, but Portland and Lewiston are the big Dm strongholds and from what I hear, both favor Clinton.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:11 AM
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25. itll be too close to call forever...
and then hillary will win by like 100 votes. that would really suck badly and its kinda what i expect.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:12 AM
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29. Who won the NH counties on the Maine border? nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:43 AM
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34. Yeah, I'm thinking Clinton by about 20. nt
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