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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:00 AM
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Obama won all but one county in Washington
Him winning Nebraska (a very DLC state which is home to the most conservative Democratic senator, Ben Nelson, who endorsed Obama) and Louisiana (half black in the Democratic primary and Obama has been getting 80-88% black support across the nation) are no surprises. Him winning Washington is not surprising either. Him winning big in Washington is a surprise. He beat Hillary 2:1 and won every county save one. You would think Hillary would have pockets of strength. Whatever happened in Washington is not a good sign for Hillary. There is no exit poll for Washington but the sweeping victory Obama had says he no significant weakness in the state. It was a caucus and Obama excels in them (for the same reasons Ron Paul's best states are caucuses) but even that is not enough to explain a total wipeout. Something is stirring--at least in Washington. Hillary is going to lose most of the February states but she needs to find a way to slow down Obama's momentum and break through with a win or two the rest of the month for she may wound up Giulianied by the time March 4 rolls around. She does retain an ace in the hole. At least a quarter of voters in the Texas Democratic primary will be Latino and she has dominated among Latinos nationally.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:02 AM
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1. The Momentum hurts her though. If he keeps winning in Feb, I can see him splitting del. In OH/TX.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:13 AM
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6. Yup. That is why Hillary must break through with a win or two before Texas and Ohio
Texas is Hillary's best bet because of Latinos and proximity to Arkansas. Obama has the regional edge in Ohio.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:18 AM
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8. Relax. She'll win tomorrow.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:27 PM
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19. Maybe. Maybe not. Check out the crowds in ME
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:03 AM
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2. I would have thought Hillary would do better on the dry side.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 01:04 AM by Hailtothechimp
But Obama cleaned her clock there too.

Obama doesn't win squeakers. He blows the competition away. I like that a lot.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:06 AM
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3. Is Obama or Clinton a member of the DLC? nt
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:11 AM
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4. The person in your avatar is a DLC "rising star" and endorsed Obama
As did her state and the most DLC states by 2:1 margins. They know exactly what Obama is, unlike netroots folks obsessed with whether Obama appears on a formal membership list. Suckers. He is as DLC as Hillary on the issues and if he wins you all are in for hellish buyer's remorse. :rofl:
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:39 AM
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10. How come you didn't answer my question? nt
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:42 AM
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12. It's a meaningless question
There are many blogosphere people too blinded by their hate of the DLC to recognize Obama is as DLC as Hillary on the issues. Will anyone care whether he signed up for the DLC's t-ball league when he is in the White House pursuing the policies of the DLC? "Hope" can turn into self-blindness.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:12 AM
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5. Obama no, Clinton yes. n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:14 AM
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7. What policy disagreement does Obama have with the DLC?
Hillary is a New Democrat. Obama is a New Democrat. One formally associates with the DLC while the other doesn't. They are both New Democrats. They are both what the netroots despises.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:45 AM
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16. Clinton's a big DLC member. n/t
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:20 AM
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9. This actually doesn't surprise me being from a neighboring
state. Washington State Dems are pretty dark blue. But, you might be right that there's an undercurrent there that's moving things toward Obama. He should do well the rest of the month and we'll see if the momentum carries to OH and TX. Even if you don't agree with his message, you have to admit he's stayed on it whereas Clinton keeps trying out a new message every other week, either directly or via surrogates.

Maybe voters are smelling a little desperation in her tricks. Or maybe they're thinking about the McCain matchup. Obama does well against McCain because he's going to be generally less offensive to the hardcore GOP, maybe less offensive than McCain is to them. I'd say Obama wins the contest based on low GOP turnout in the GE, whereas HRC brings out the GOP in droves, such is their unfounded hatred of her.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:47 AM
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17. Welcome to DU...
Things get a bit trying around here these days...but there's lots of nice folks here...

I have been trying to figure out what on earth is going on with this race..nothing makes any sense..I was blown away by what happened here in Wash. today, I would have bet Clinton would take this state, and in a big way..

I wouldn't bet on McCain being the Rep nominee...I just have a feeling that by the time the convention comes around, something is going to have changed..of course, I could be wrong too...but for right now, I don't care what it looks like, I don't believe he is going to be their nominee...and people better not be picking Obama because they are thinking about that particular match up...because it's the wrong reason to choose him...

I read a long time ago, that Hillary was chosen by tptb to be the next prez a long time ago...somehow, I just have a feeling, that after all is said and done, it IS going to be what happens...whether it's right or wrong, or in spite of what anyone wants...and no matter how it looks right now...so I am sitting here watching and waiting to see how it all turns out...and kind of amazed at what's taken place so far....wb

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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:41 AM
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11. Why did Obama win so many GOP states?
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 01:42 AM by BenDavid
Idaho - Utah - Alabama, Georgia, Tennesee?
Meanwhile,
She won California, New York, New Jersey and Mass - Democratic states.

Possible answer: Republicans are voting for Obama to stop Hillary.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:43 AM
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13. Conservative/DLC Democrats are voting for the most conservative Democrat available
That is why Obama's best states are DLC strongholds.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:14 PM
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18. Dunno. You'll have to correlate to whether those states had an
open primary allowing party crossover. Until then you're just speculating.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:44 AM
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14. guess they'll have to start saying he's not black enough again n/t
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:45 AM
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15. The Washington caucus I went to had signs for Obama everywhere
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 01:47 AM by kineta
and none for Clinton.

I sort of wondered about that.

on edit: by everywhere, I mean hanging up over the information/registration tables and next to the signs directing voters into the building.
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