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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:14 AM
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Ok. How is Obama going to counter when the conservatives bring THIS up?
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:19 AM
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1. wait
I thought he was a DLC shill who was a total moderate?

Now's he the most pro-choice candidate ever?

The Hillbots need to stick to one talking point. It is too easy to refute two wholly different ones.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:19 AM
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2. Wait. Clinton has told everyone
she was more pro-choice than Obama?

I have a feeling every year, whomever the Democrats nominate gets labeled as THE MOST PRO-ABORTION CANDIDATE evar!!!!

(in the end, being solidly pro-choice is a net positive with the American public, so I doubt he's sweating it)
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:23 AM
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3. Maybe he can ask "the Conservatives" ...
... about their record when it comes to protecting and/or providing for live children, post-birth.

Show me a Republican, and I'll show you someone who loves a fetus - and hates children.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:26 AM
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4. "Sometimes I wish I was a woman, just so that I could get an abortion" John Waters....
....now that's somebody who likes abortion!

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:27 AM
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5. Abortion has not been a hot-button issue in this election campaign
And almost certainly won't be, either.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:44 AM
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13. it does lose its appeal as a hot-button issue
with a war gone horribly wrong and an economy crashing around us
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:28 AM
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6. Oh for Pete's sake
Maybe somebody could counter with the thousands (millions?) of people starving and dying in the streets because those bastards keep cutting funding to social service programs every year. Funny how they rant and rave about fetuses but don't give a flying rip about human beings once they're born. :banghead:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:30 AM
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7. Precisely (n/t)!
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:37 AM
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9. I agree.
Conservatives just don't make any sense to me.
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:38 AM
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10. It's clearly the kids' fault their family is poor
what, with NAFTA, CAFTA, the WTO, and preferred trade status with a country that forces people to work for near slave wages, it is clearly the kids of America that drag America down.











:sarcasm:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:36 AM
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8. Like they aren't gonna call HRC a babykiller too.
n/t.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:33 AM
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20. Yes, it would be really interesting to hear the OP explain how many people
he thinks would reject Obama on the issue of reproductive choice but would support Clinton and why.

I won't hold my breath though.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:38 AM
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11. misread
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 03:38 AM by Levgreee
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:33 AM
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12. This anti-choice screed is more of the same old crap as usual; as for NEW crap
also check out:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=/Commentary/archive/200802/COM20080208a.htm

at the same site. If Obama gets the nomination, this is the whining we will hear until election day. Obama is a very thoughtful politician, and shows that in the debates (even though by classical standards, he is widely tagged 'not a good debater'). He has risen in popularity for real reasons -- let the right wing rant and complain all they want.

I think Obama would make a STRONG candidate as nominee, and a good president. Hillary Clinton would also make a good president (though not as good IMHO as Barack Obama) but as a candidate, she just is not top notch. And that difference is crucial, lest we end up with someone who wants to stay in Iraq until the Greenland Icecap melts.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:05 AM
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14. is there shame in being pro-choice?
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 06:06 AM by npincus
Pro-choice Democrats should not expect under any circumstance to win the votes of the right-to-life crowd-- and that includes Hillary.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:15 AM
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15. Barack "I am from illinois so I know rough and tumbel"
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:25 AM
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16. McCain
McCain is pro stem cell research.

So abortion is out as a campaign issue for 2008. To the people who think abortion is murder, stem cell research is murder as well.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:32 AM
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17. They'd say that even if he was pro-life.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:13 AM
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18. Hey! How about a warning with that link? Terence Jeffery eeewwwwww!! n/t
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:01 AM
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19. Simply by pointing out that America is pro-choice...
...and perhaps by noting incidentally that the word "pro-abortion" is a clumsy framing easily revealed as a lie.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:38 AM
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21. Ick - Terry Jeffrey!!! nt
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