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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:21 AM
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Skinner, please institute the thread limit ASAP. Please, we're begging you!
Remember when we had to post 3-4 paragraphs of actual THOUGHT in order to start a thread? That was back in 03. But things have gotten much worse than even those dark times.

The thread limit will go a long way toward redeeming this forum. Thanking you in advance...


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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:22 AM
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1. K + R
:kick:
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:23 AM
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2. a nominee and general election battle will eventually even things out
use the ignore!
its liberating!!

(but you probably won't get thins)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:32 AM
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5. UNTIL then we need some sanity
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:54 PM
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51. Amen, brother. This place is a one-note samba, with cock fighting added.
Skinner, please take a stand. We beg you.

Until then, I'm on to other pursuits.

That is all.

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:30 AM
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3. Yes, please
"Remember when we had to post 3-4 paragraphs of actual THOUGHT in order to start a thread?"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:31 AM
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4. Like NOW please
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:34 AM
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6. I'm Seabiscuit, and I approve this message.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 10:38 AM by Seabiscuit
:thumbsup:

Limit the threads to 3 per person per day.

My eyeballs start aching every time I wander in here.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:39 AM
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9. I voted for 3. I'm really excited about the prospect. I think it will make an immediate difference
It requires you to use your OP's judiciously. I think it will elevate the tone. Hoping anyway.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:40 PM
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72. Oh lord, yes.
Or, at the very least, 5. Max. I don't even recognize this place anymore.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:37 AM
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7. Ditto! n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:38 AM
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8. I foresee dozens of new sockpuppets each posting three threads a day.
All for Obama.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:45 AM
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14. I was just thinking that same thing about the paid Hil supporters!
There are a few in both camps that just need to STFU and sit down--no doubt. I honestly think that DU has got to do something and it needs to happen soon. The level of distrust in both camps is way past the point of redemption and for now it has to be damage control mode.

Limiting the ability of a select few to inflame things further may be our best hope.


Laura
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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40. Good thing is, admins are talented IP hounds.
And proxy IPs will get banned.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:02 AM
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85. Perhaps, until Primary Season ends, new posters need a thousand posts before they start threads
That'll smoke 'em out pretty quick.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:02 AM
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86. Perhaps, until Primary Season ends, new posters need a thousand posts before they start threads
That'll smoke 'em out pretty quick.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:18 AM
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88. I think the same thing will happen re: sockpuppets
We already have enough obvious ones in GDP right now.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:40 AM
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10. While you are waiting, please go to GD and help me
write some emails telling the truth about McCain. I see it as a positive exercise, one that will only help the eventual nominee. Plus it will get your mind off the children soiling the sandbox here. :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2842426&mesg_id=2842426
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:42 AM
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11. Thread limits will sink page views, ad revenue
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:45 AM
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13. I doubt it.
I think it will lead to larger, more well thought out threads. Instead of the hit and run drive by threads. Too much thread velocity without enough substance is not a good thing.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:54 AM
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16. Even on this thread, "You're wrong!" is reflexive?
And you're valuing "well thought out."


Every post is a search result that keeps giving and giving, for years.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:25 AM
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26. Other forums won't have a limit.
I think it's only this one that a limit is being proposed, simply to slow the thread velocity and spamming type posts. Is there really any need to post more than three threads in a day? I know DU is addictive, but there is life outside of DU. :)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:20 AM
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20. agree--too too much hit and run POOP on this board.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:46 PM
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37. Actually a limit of 3 would only drop the number of posts to about 800 per day
From the current total of about 1,050. But it would prevent 6% of DU'ers from posting 28% of the new threads in GDP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4514593&mesg_id=4514593
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:44 AM
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12. Don't count me as we...
let people post what they want
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:52 AM
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15. Kind of like Daily Kos
You're only allowed to post two diaries a day. I agree with people in this thread that it needs to be instituted.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:58 AM
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17. I want to see this on the front page of DU by 6 p.m. tonight at the latest.
Come on, people - click that "recommend" button!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:21 AM
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22. JUST DID
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:22 AM
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23. a REC for future SANITY on the board
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:10 AM
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75. Thanks to all of you for kicking this thread to the top of the Home Page.
:yourock:
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:05 AM
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18. Yes, as soon as possible please
The hit-and-run crowd are stifling any real discourse.

K&R

:kick:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:17 AM
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19. K & R!
:kick:

I have thoughts I want to post, but am holding off until the threads thin out, because I don't want to get lost in the shuffle, and I would like some intelligent discourse... I am afraid if I say anything against Obama I will be attacked and burned at the stake...

Not good when someone who has real issues and questions is intimidated by the flamers, etc...
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:12 PM
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48. If you have Something to say....
Say it. Anything meaningful, helpful, and thought out should be written, and spoken. Our world needs more sense, not less. One cannot worry about being slammed in conversation. Say it. If you have anything meaningful, and helpful, say it. Just a thought.
Peace.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:21 AM
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21. Give this a REC for SANITY
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:23 AM
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24. kicky
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:23 AM
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25. kicky poo
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:08 PM
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27. poopy kick
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 PM by Seabiscuit
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:10 PM
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28. Any time now...
Please?
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:12 PM
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29. kick!
OMG I can't believe the number of threads started (how many actually decent?) in the hour or two since I was last online! this thread was alomst 3/4 of the way down the greatest page!

HURRY Skinner!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:20 PM
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30. Boy, I was hoping we'd have this by now. I'm sure Skinner et al, are trying to come up with
something fair.

I was so hopeful after it was suggested. Just want it now LOL!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:22 PM
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31. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:43 PM
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32. K/R
Thank you!
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:47 PM
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33. Yes, please!
Good threads are being buried, being hit and run by drive-bys.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:57 PM
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34. k/r
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:13 PM
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35. For the video forum especially.
My ignore list grows every time somebody decides to
spam the video forum and post six or eight or ten
videos for one subject at once.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:15 PM
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36. Yes!
And make it retroactive if you can!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:54 PM
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52. LOL!
I like that!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:49 PM
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38. Amen! nt
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:50 PM
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39. K/R
Thank you!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:00 PM
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41. Skinner please institute a serious crackdown on multiple threads of flamebate!
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:06 PM
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45. I agree, there's no reason for senseless, thoughtless arguing. nt
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:10 PM
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46. And people should use n/t or nt to indicate no text,
it saves time. It takes time to click on a post to read it. It's annoying to click on a post to see what it's about, just to see some stupid comment. Some posters are playing games around here, like, made you look! ha ha!

If it can fit in the subject line, put it there and write n/t at the end.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:51 PM
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42. BUMP!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:57 PM
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43. Please!!!!!!!!!!!
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:04 PM
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44. There should be some general requirements for starting any thread,
maybe not 3-4 paragraphs, but at least something indicating that's it's not just a fluff thread. Many threads, especially lately, are of little substance and contain just one sentence or less. Having just one sentence or less is a warning sign of fluff.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:11 PM
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47. Yes!
Let's call it the "Genital Wig" rule.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:50 PM
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49. It's going to take WAAAAY more than that.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 05:51 PM by Forkboy
Cleaning up the mess in GD-P will take far more than I believe the Admins are willing to do, and that may or may not be a compliment to them, depending on the day. ;)

Ultimately Skinner and Co. are the ones who decide what flies here and what doesn't. The fact that they green light as much as they do tells me it's not a big concern to them that people seek to destroy Democrats at any price, so begging and hoping may not get anyone very far. And I say this as someone who isn't very thrilled with the state of the Democratic party these days. But even I care if they're torn down over real issues and concerns, or whether they get torn down by fucks who care about winning and not what to do once they've won. It's Skinner's choice as to what kind of forum he wants, and so far they've chosen exactly what we see, for good or ill.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #49
67. well said.
:toast:
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:51 PM
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50. Any way to institute a minimum length requirement also? nt.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:24 AM
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79. Most men will fight you on that
Oh wait, nevermind :hide: :D
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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:10 PM
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53. here here
:kick:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:10 PM
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54. I want a fucking POST LIMIT to only donating members at this point
This place is a zoo out of control.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:04 PM
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61. I have bad news for you...
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 08:08 PM by FlyingSquirrel
Of the people posting 6 or more threads per day in GDP,

19 of 24 are donating members.

10 of 24 have been here longer than 3 years.
4 of 24 have been here 1-3 years.
2 of 24 have been here 3-12 months.
4 of 24 have been here less than 3 months.

The other 4 have hidden their profiles so it's not possible to see how long they've been here.
(That should not be possible to do IMO) 3 of those 4 are not donating members.


"We have met the enemy and it is us."
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f the letter Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:29 PM
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55. recommended n/t
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:28 PM
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56. K and R
do it soon please.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:29 PM
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57. Agree.
Sh!t or get off the pot. :evilgrin: ;)
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:33 PM
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58. I agree.
Please start it immediately or asap?
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:37 PM
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59. It's only GD-P that's kind of whacked out lately.
Let it play out. It's just about over. Understand that people are passionate about their choice, and tread lightly with your replies. The vast majority of us are on the same team.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:50 PM
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60. I can't wait until the primaries are over.

I'll be actually to read DU again.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:11 PM
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62. i dont suppose you could also implement
some sort of obnoxiousness filter

if there is such a thing

that would be really nice
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:09 PM
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63. I have faith in Skinner. These these take some time.
I imagine he is working on it now. He did initiate a poll and asked the community and I thought that was swell.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:31 PM
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64. I agree,
A thread limit will cut down on petty, counterproductive, and shallow bickering.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:32 PM
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65. All the new people that crawled out of the woodwork for Obama here
don't have a clue what you're talking about. I always thought that was a good rule and, in general, I still try to do that.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:34 PM
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66. They have to program this into the system, test it, and then launch it.
Be patient.
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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:05 PM
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68. k&r
I agree.
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BeachBaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:34 PM
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69. K & R
Kickety-kick-kick!
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:36 PM
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70. Error: You've already recommended that thread.
:kick:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:27 PM
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71. What You're Going To Get Are MORE Responses Made On Any Given
subject! However since every single strand of spaghetti you throw at the wall will "mean" something to "someone" you're going to get throw off discussions. Some people who are aware of certain names as supporters, know they can count of them to pick up the ball.

I don't know, I remember when you were only allowed to post 1 or 2 paragraphs on a subject, then needed to provide a link that would verify your post. Or ask anyone for verification!! If you're only limiting each person to a certain number, you are squelching his right to free speech! On the other hand, certain names come up over and over giving facts and counterpointing those fact. It's almost as if some connect here with super intensity that gets outs of control.

The way I see it, we're back into thinking that by changing parts of the same problems that exist, you need to find a solution and the alternatives -- are for S--T!!


And believe me, I honestly mean this. Interjecting changes is always promising, but for some it sucks and for others it works just fine. Flip your coin!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:57 PM
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73. I don't think we need a thread limit necessarily
IF the threads were leading to something meaningful.

Unfortunately most of it is just personal attacks.

How about a stupid ass hole personal attack flame war thread limit?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:09 AM
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74. I'm thinking I'll have to post to the limit of my free speech quota each day ongoingly
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 12:10 AM by Cronus Protagonist
I doubt the free speech quotas will be cumulative, so I'll have to up my thread count to the limit in order to not waste any of my free speech quota. I think that would take a lot of work, but it would be worth the effort.

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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:14 AM
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76. Kick and Rec
The same offenders are in GDP tonight, same old song and dance. It's unbearable!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:17 AM
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77. How do I hide GD-P? When I read the instructions it says you can't
hide the six key forums in the upper left corner of the screen. However, there are seven forums and GD-P is one of them.

Reading those subject lines is like going in to the sewer. Both sides. Foolish tactics. Very Rovian. Very juvenile.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:19 AM
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78. You can't hide the forum from the list
But you can hide it from the Latest page


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4158434

How to HIDE threads posted in the General Discussion: Primaries forum, so you will not see them on the Latest page.

If you wish to avoid seeing threads from the General Discussion: Primaries forum, you can set your preferences so that they will not appear on the Latest Page. Here's how:

Just click the "Options" icon at the top of any page, and then click "Edit your preferences" to go to the Preferences page. Scroll partway down the page until you see the words "Hide General Discussion: Primaries from the Latest page?" Select "yes," then click the "Update" button at the bottom of the page.

And, of course, if you want to avoid seeing threads about the Democratic presidential primaries, you should avoid entering the General Discussion: Primaries forum.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:14 AM
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87. Thanks Tammywhammy. Appreciate it.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:31 AM
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80. Kick
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BayjanDem Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:38 AM
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81. Too much
tit for tat bullcrap lately
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:49 AM
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82. I heartily endorse this event or product
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Ian_walker Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 AM
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83. Yes please
Reasoned argument please. DU realy needs to kill off these Rove Troll spam posts. As a tactic they have Karl Roves dirty mits written all over them.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 08:59 AM
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84. In the interim, that HIDE THREAD button works very well. NT
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:19 AM
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89. Amen, amen, amen
and chimpy you got my last heart for this post.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:50 AM
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90. Do you mean 3 thread per day, per poster? Please clarify.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 09:54 AM by raccoon



edited for clarity.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:09 AM
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91. K&R!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:12 AM
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92. It probably takes time. I am sure they are working on it. nt
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