i am amazed at how much obama can whine and complain about what he calls the clinton's unfairness

[flordehinojos]

towards him, his race as in the martin luther king jr./johnson comments, the jesse jackson 1984/1988 south carolina comments and how the media echoes what the whiner whines about...this whining really is a twist and spin of the old truth such as it has been used by the bushes and the bush bought media.

the clintons, on the other hand, can never say anything factually true about the media's knighted champion because the kniged champion will immediately open his whining shot and the media won't cease their whining of the clintons in an effort to distort and trash the clintons.

i am simply amazed and gasping for air.

[Thrill]

1. You have NEVER heard Obama complain about that

You should be ashamed for lying like that

[flordehinojos]

6. however ... yes i have ...and i am not lying.

sorry to insult your sensibilities ... the man never said he knew that neither was an insult to his race. and faithful to his tenet, he had found the voice of the media to do the fighting for him, in other words, he was being pragmatic and he was being dishonest. he let the media go on with what he knew was not true but with a charge that would, he hoped, cut hillary at the legs.

[Thrill]

7. Post a link. Where he is complaining about this.

[flordehinojos]

20. after keeping silent and letting the media inflame the passions and letting his silence keep

inflaming the passions, he meekly gives this answer to stephanopoulos:

"Stephanopoulos asked explicitly: "You think President Clinton was engaging in racial politics there?"

Obama answered: "I think that, that's his frame of reference was the Jesse Jackson races. That's when he was active and involved and watching what was gonna take place in South Carolina. I think that a lot of South Carolinians looked at it through a different lens."


He knew what the press was doing. He knew how people were receiving it. He knew how Bill Clinton meant it. He said nothing to stop the onslaught of spin and lies. He was benefitting from the lies being raised on his behalf. He is someone who believes in pragmatism, principles of truth be damned!

[sharp_stick]

2. What a great example of whining you provide too

the OP is a perfect example of bitching and moaning over absolutely nothing. Beautiful

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Oh, stop it. Nobody's whining

except the candidates' sillier DU supporters. Neither Clinton nor Obama are whining; they're carrying on with their campaigns and doing a damn good job of it. Now it's time for you guys to stop whining, too.

Anyhow, after your "Obama's Nostrils" essay you really should be laying low for awhile... :rofl:

[Evergreen Emerald]

4. I know. It is the same tact that Bush used. He had the media behind him too

so he was allowed to attack Gore, and when Gore shot back, the media jumped on him and accused him of attacking.

What gets me is the dishonesty of the whole thing. They used race to accuse Clintons of racism And the media ate it up spewing such lies and hate that I have never seen. A few phone calls to "non-partisan" (my ass) and Racism was shouted from the rooftops.

Remember when Clinton suggested that the guys were piling on her (and they were) in the first debate, and any mention of her being female was attacked. They Obama's media shut her down and made her gender a non-issue. Conversely, Obama is allowed to use his race and any mention of it--is shut down.

[flordehinojos]

22. and there are so many who still have not seen (or don't want to see) what the obama people are doing

[rodeodance]

25. Blind faith campaign. I wonder if a fund has been set up for the de-programming that will be needed

[Occam Bandage]

5. Please provide a single quote from Obama claiming this. Oh, wait, you can't.

[flordehinojos]

8. can you provide a single quote of him saying he knew none of what the media was saying was true?

he knew it and he never said it. he was being very pragmatic in advancing his position by letting the media do the talking for him...it was a lie and he knew it.

[Occam Bandage]

9. Aren't those goalposts heavy?

[neutron]

10. Shhh You are not allowed to state the truth

We're Liberals here.

[Cha]

11. And I'm not amazed how much you much you fucking

whine.

[flordehinojos]

21. good. happy listening to you.

maybe some truth will seep through your ears...or eyes as the case may be.

[journalist3072]

12. Agreed. Obama is like the kid in the school yard who runs home to mommy and daddy about the mean

kids who don't like him.

His behavior is junvenile and disgusting.

[Whisp]

13. post quotes and sources, big fat liar. nt

[The River]

14. I'm Tired Of All The Posts

where people whine about candidates who whine
or cry or lie or what ever the f*&k they do
that day. You change nothing with these cry baby posts.

[eallen]

15. Perhaps you would provide some quotes, so we can know what you're talking about?

No?

I thought not.

:hippie:

[izzybeans]

16. The candidates aren't complaining their supporters are.

[cali]

17. Are DU Hilly supporters running a contest today

to see who can post the most pathetic whinging pile of crap?

I think you should be the 2nd runner up. Let me present you with a bunch of dead roses.

[Hepburn]

18. Link?

Or is this just a personal, unsupported whine...er...opinion?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

19. a visual ade.................

:hide:

[intaglio]

23. no profile, no joining date naughty boy - IGNORED n/t

[Avalux]

24. Knock it off with the misrepresentation - Obama has never whined.

If your perception of the campaigns has effected you so much you can't breath, I suggest you take a break and try to relax. :eyes:

[Kahuna]

26. You're just making shit up.

:eyes:

[VotesForWomen]

27. correct; and the media can take away the free pass they have given him. nt

[AtomicKitten]

28. I am amazed that Clinton et al complain about precisely what they are doing.

[JVS]

29. "i am simply amazed and gasping for air."

Don't try too hard.