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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:12 PM
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The male vote for Obama against McCain will be worse than Clinton against McCain
And Obama won't have the strong female vote to make up for it.

By the end of the race Obama would be successfully painted as an "anti war" weak candidate who is a question mark on the economy.

Men vote their wallet, national security, and lastly for the less feminine candidate. Most white men will also consider race and the older they are the more likely that is.

There would be a slight advantage with men for McCain against Clinton but a HUGE one against Obama and Obama won't have the female voters turning out to make up for it.

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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:14 PM
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1. McCain - weak with Republicans, strong with America?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:15 PM
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4. Get to making that bumpersticker now!
:bounce:

:rofl:
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:14 PM
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2. Yeah, all those females will vote McCain or stay home...
not!
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:19 PM
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8. Obama would have a slight advantage with females but not a big one. Older ones will go McCain
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:15 PM
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3. Waitin' on the Proud2Be DU Rule!
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:21 PM
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9. Too funny!
Love the white shorts.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:22 PM
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10. Yes....
... and, Lee? Is that a jar of pickles in your pants or are you just happy to see us?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:16 PM
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5. You aren't empty yet?
I thought by this time you'd pulled everything out of your ass you could possibly have in there. I do have to admire your facility for totally making up completely unattributed, unsupported shit, though.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:16 PM
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6. I don't think they're paying you enough. :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:18 PM
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7. bwahahahah. poor, poor, pitiful, murkymuck
I do so love your despair. It's delicious. Yum yum.

:rofl:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:23 PM
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11. Good Point!
On the top of your head I mean. Why do I keep opening your assinine threads?

:banghead:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:25 PM
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14. Probably the same reason I do...
because we can't help staring at a nasty car wreck, even though we don't want to look.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:24 PM
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12. oh please. you want to tell yourself that, go ahead.
the fact is, hillary does not get the male vote, and women will show up for either hillary or obama. not to mention independents go all to mccain, while obama gets a higher percentage of independents if he's the nominee.

facts are a bitch, right?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:25 PM
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15. I believe the idea that McCain will get independents is misguided and also
older voters, the most reliable, are just not going to show up for Obama, especially men.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:25 PM
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13. C'mon, thread limits!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:27 PM
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18. I know, I keep kicking that thread limits poll.
When will that go into effect?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:26 PM
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16. So are you now speaking for all white men? I am a white man, and I don't fit your sterotype?
My feeling is that most Americans want change. They have seen the Clintons and mccains long enough, and it is time to give someone else a chance

That is just MY feeling, I am not projecting that anyone else feels that way as you do

The race issue is NOT an issue. Anyone who wouldn't vote for Barack because of race, wouldn't vote for Hillary either

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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:29 PM
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20. No I would bet men under 35 will go with Obama but over 60's won't and it's not all racism
Men don't like question marks especially on the economy and national security. Risk taking with money is easier for a younger person so he might do ok there.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:59 AM
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23. You're probably right /nt
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:26 PM
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17. Thanks. Now go play with your blocks.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:28 PM
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19. Obama polls 5% better then Hillary against McCain in CNN's new polling
Your argument doesn't hold up under the facts.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:30 PM
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21. Those don't mean anything right now. The GOP "national security" machine hasn't kicked in
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:32 PM
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22. Haven't you gotten rid of your crabs yet, Murkin?
Keep up the good work. You make Clinton look worse all the time.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:01 AM
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24. To the Ignore list you go
Since they haven't seen fit to TS you yet. You must be contributing a hell of a lot $$$$.
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