"Billary"

[PSPS]

Neither Clinton nor Obama were my first choice as democratic nominee. But it will be up to people like me (and, apparently, Clinton supporters) to vote for Obama in November if he wins the nomination. But you know, there are a number of disturbing things about Obama supporters that tend to turn me off Obama as a candidate:

1. The term "billary." I see and hear this epithet along with other well-worn right-wing terms (like "billarycare") used by many Obama supporters here on DU and elsewhere. What am I to think? The irrational hate-everything-clinton Scaife-funded Clenis haters all say the same thing.

2. I've seen and heard people implore others to "come to Obama" as if he were some sort of messiah. Again, this is the same weird mindset that makes me think of the 17 percenters -- those that still adore bush because they're swept up in his personality cult.

I expect this post will generate some kind of visceral response, like something one would expect from an anti-bush post at freerepublic. But I just wanted to put this out there because I think there are a lot of people like me who have these same feelings.

Be sure to wipe the spittle off your keyboards and screens when you're through banging out your 'thoughtful' replies!

[TheWraith]

1. Well, your post isn't at all pre-biased, is it?

Messiah, Bush-lovers, "wipe the spittle off your keyboards..."

Gee, you haven't made up your mind, have you? :sarcasm:

Seriously, if you relaxed a little, you might get a better feel for why so many people love the candidate. Plus remember that a few nicknames are not the exclusive property of right-wingers; I've seen all of those used here long before the 08 primary.

[bellasgrams]

15. I have tried to figure out why people like BO but I just can't.

He doesn't have the expertise that Hillary has. All you have to do is listen to the 2 of them. You know exactly where she stands on issues because she'll tell you. BO on the other hand runs around the stage acting like a motivational speaker or preacher, or even a cheerleader, anything but a candidate running for the highest office in the country. He comes across as very arrogant. After you listen to him, you don't know anymore than, he's for change. Hope and change. New direction. Michelle made the remark that if you can't run your own home then you can't run the WH. She better be careful, that could come around and bite her in the backside. No one knows what is in the future. What your spouse or kids might do. His slamming of Bill over the race thing and again when bill said Jessie Jackson won SC, how was that a slur? Then Hillary said LBJ passed the civil rights bill. It's also the truth how can you twist these things into something bad? He really lost me and my friends when he praised Reagan, and dissed the democrats. then he tried to deny what he said. Like in the other cases he twists remarks to fit his needs. His mentor was Lieberman. Hillary campaigned for him when his first ran for office and look how he treats her. Then you have the supporters here on DU that has also been a diffanet turn off. One more thing, he told the story at an appearance, that he was conceived during a civil rights action, that took place 2 years before he was born.

[thevoiceofreason]

2. Not at all

There are some, probably newcomers to the process, who don't know how to handle the current (and hopefully not fleeting) successes he is enjoying. The vast vast majority of Barack supporters like Hillary also -- often having as tough a choice as you mentioned. I explain it as a group of people who have not had someone they could rally around for a long time and who get exuberant when they finally latch on to someone. As for the Billary, that's just garbage -- some of our folks don't represent well. Please don't transfer that to the entire group.

Peace out.

[Sapphocrat]

8. That's what scares me.

The idea that any presumably responsible voter would "latch on to someone" -- making issues secondary.

[zabet]

3. Remember to step back...

research the candidates, their stances,
their past voting histories and their
plans if elected. Pick who you honestly
feel will do the best job. Do not let
the insane dribble of some supporters
sway your opinion. You are a Democrat
so I know you are smarter than that. ;)

[stahbrett]

4. Obama wasn't my first choice, but I'm seeing more "kool-aid", "cult", etc. talk against Obama

I wish both sides would just chill out, but I'm not going to make a decision about which candidate to vote for based on the whackos that may be promoting or denigrating the candidates - I decide based on the candidates themselves, and picked the one I trust the most (or more pessimistically, the one I distrust the least :)).

[NastyRiffraff]

5. No spittle; I agree

I'm offended about the clinton hatred on these boards. I'm not talking about people who honestly disagree with Hillary on issues; that's perfectly fair.

I see RW talking points being rehashed and parotted, again and again; Drudge being quoted as if he were a creditable journalist (but only when he attacks Hillary), and pure unabashed misogyny.

I'l vote for Obama if he's the nominee. I'd never vote against a candidate only because of his lamebrain supporters...and there are lots of them. Unfortunately, because of those supporters I'll have to hold my nose.

People, and you know who I'm talking to....you're not doing your candidate any favors.

[Mz Pip]

6. As a Obama supporter

I don't like the use of "Billary".

The cult thing is just a stupid anti-Obama talking point. I don't consider Obama a messiah and I sure don't believe I have been swept up by some cult.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Coexist]

7. I support Obama, but can't stand the term

I don't think Senator Obama would like it either.

[eridani]

9. Agreed. Let's shitcan this "Billary" crap for good

It has no place here regardless of what you think of her candidacy.

[GalleryGod]

10. Interesting?

"Ha!"

[Freida5]

11. I believe the Obama campaign is arrogant and I will not vote for him in the fall.

[sloppyjoe25s]

12. Obama camp getting over confident

I am an Obama supporter - and I believe he is a very rare leader.

But I think the Obama camp is getting over confident.

Real need to get to work in politics - I see so many people with 1000+ posts - and I just hope they are also on the streets canvassing, handing out stickers, signs, talking to people -- WORKING.

Obama has done some terrific organizing to win this many contests.

But Hillary (yes in part thanks to Bill) holds HUGE advantages at the local level in Texas and Ohio.

TV advertising along wont be enough to deliver votes in HUGE primaries.

Obama camp needs to get off of DU (nobody to be persuaded on here anyway) - and get out and WORK to get real votes in Texas and Ohio.

Every hour of volunteering helps ALOT.

[Danger Mouse]

13. I don't support the use of "Billary" or any derogatory nickname

for either candidate or their supporters.

[gateley]

14. Agree! Although I have no qualms about Repugs or Repukes. nt

[sjdnb]

16. A lot of Edwards supporters feel the same way about both of them ...

But, in the end, we will probably just wind up holding our noses and voting for one or the other.

What options do we have?

Until there is meaningful campaign reform as well as some updated version of the Fairness Doctrine and Equal Time Rules that is put in place to cover all the pundits who pose as journalists, we will continue to have the outcomes of our campaigns determined by money and the media.