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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:30 PM
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I just donated to Obama for the first time and they make me agree to the following before doing so
"This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent."

Does anyone know if they all have to have donors affirm this?
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:31 PM
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1. Yes they have to ask that nt
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:31 PM
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2. yep--all political donations have that little box to check
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:31 PM
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3. well all the bundlers he has working for him
are not registered as lobbyists. don't really know how ethical his contributions are as far as that goes. seems like he is stretching the truth in a couple places but for the most part if you are a lobbyist that is registered as a lobbyist you will not find a home with obama.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:31 PM
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4. i think they all do it, i remember the same when i donated to Kerry.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 11:31 PM by JI7
and some others
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:34 PM
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9. This isn't the corporate disclaimer
I looked at it a second time, and this isn't the traditional corporate, foreign persons, disclaimer. This is strictly lobbyists and they aren't prohibited by law. Isn't that right?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:25 AM
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16. i think that is correct, i just read it again
i don't think most people mention that and it wouldn't be illegal if he did accept them.

interesting. but i can see how most of his donations are small donors.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:31 PM
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5. True.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:33 PM
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6. They seem to tell Lobbyists to donate through their families and employees of their firms
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:33 PM
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7. I think that's Federal law that requires them to do this.
Lobbyists are at least in theory not allowed to directly give money to politicians. They have to go through a level of indirection or two.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:34 PM
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8. Yup -it's the law.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 08:34 AM
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20. I think you are mistaken
Registered lobbyists can give to federal candidates. And I don't believe that any specific disclosure is required.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 08:35 AM
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21. I think you are mistaken
Registered lobbyists can give to federal candidates. And I don't believe that any specific disclosure is required.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:36 PM
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10. no they found you particularly suspicious lol
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:41 PM
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11. Sometimes I just don't asked
question I should know the answer to but.....then again
it could be just me.

:shrug:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:46 PM
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12. You mean like Hillary and Guiliani going to London
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 11:47 PM by mac2
to get campaign funds? Why hasn't someone admitted this was illegal? It's like going to King George to put the royals in power.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:23 AM
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13. Exactly what did they both do that was wrong?
Did they receive contributions from non-citizens? Or were they American citizens living abroad?
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:27 AM
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23. I just heard they were on their way over there to raise funds
Use your imagination.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:41 PM
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26. Did they receive illegal contributions from foreigners?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:59 AM
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15. I believe Michelle went to London.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:26 AM
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17. Was it Democrats Abroad?
Nothing illegal about it, if so.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 07:09 AM
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18. Americans abroad
they can even vote, you know. I know The obama campaign was happy to take my sister's money from the uk, she's an American but works for the government of england.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:14 AM
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25. Michelle Obama went to London to raise funds.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:24 AM
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14. There are several things that the contributor has to confirm about themselves.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 07:11 AM
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19. All candidates are doing it - by law. Maybe even the GOP-ers
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:28 AM
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24. It's against the election laws
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 10:33 AM by mac2
I remember the outrage over China giving funds to Bill Clinton. It was declared illegal after that.

I remember discussing the actions of Hillary and Rudi going to London to raise funds with an Ohio Elder lawyer. We were both outraged. He later decided to run on the city council and do public service (that area of Ohio full of election fraud).
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ctaylors6 Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 08:42 AM
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22. I believe the lobbyist part is for all Obama contributions, but is NOT required by law
from fec.gov:
Prohibited Contributions and Expenditures
The FECA places prohibitions on contributions and expenditures by certain individuals and organizations. The following are prohibited from making contributions or expenditures to influence federal elections:

Corporations;
Labor organizations;
Federal government contractors; and
Foreign nationals.

Furthermore, with respect to federal elections:

No one may make a contribution in another person's name.
No one may make a contribution in cash of more than $100.
In addition to the above prohibitions on contributions and expenditures in federal election campaigns, the FECA also prohibits foreign nationals, national banks and other federally chartered corporations from making contributions or expenditures in connection with state and local elections.


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