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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:15 PM
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Did Hillary's campaign use the money raised since Feb. 5 to repay the Jan. $5 million loan:
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 12:18 PM by ProSense
An overhaul of Clinton's senior staff had been rumored for months as her national lead shrank and she struggled to keep pace with Obama's prodigious fundraising.

Clinton has raised about $130 million, but she was recently compelled to loan her campaign $5 million out of her personal funds. (The campaign has since paid it back.) Privately, some donors have said the campaign was slow to use the Internet to raise money, relying too heavily on the Clintons' old fundraising network.

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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:17 PM
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1. I hope so because that's a lot of money
Or at least part of it. Hillary isn't as rich as many people think.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:18 PM
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2. Yup, my donation was meant to pay HRC back. It's not just her campaign n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:18 PM
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3. You already know the answer to that, so why pretend you don't just for the drama?
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:21 PM
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4. You're wasting your candidates time and money watching the competition. Get busy in your business.
While you're posting silly teasers I'm donating to HRC. And I will do it again, and again, and again until I've done enough to get her to the WH.

Petty little man.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:22 PM
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5. Of Course. Duh! But So What?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:25 PM
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6. Wasn't it to keep her competitive because she believes "very strongly in this campaign"?
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 12:26 PM by ProSense
At a press conference at her campaign headquarters in Arlington, Virginia, Clinton, D-N.Y., said, "I did I loaned the campaign $5 million dollars of my money. That's where I got the money. I loaned it because I believe very strongly in this campaign. We had a great month fundraising in January, broke all records, but my opponent was able to raise more money, and we intended to be competitive and we were. And I think the results last night proved the wisdom of my investment."

The loan came in the same month that Senator Barack Obama, D-Ill., raised $32 million.

Clinton's campaign reportedly raised about $13 million dollars last month. The campaign says that amount does not include the $5 million loan.

"The loan illustrates Senator Clinton's commitment to this effort and to ensuring that our campaign has the resources it needs to compete and win across this nation. We have had one of our best fundraising efforts ever on the web today and our Super Tuesday victories will only help in bringing more support for her candidacy," said Communications Director Howard Wolfson.

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What's she going to use for advertising, etc.?

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:38 PM
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8. How Hard Is It To See That It Was A Temporary Cash Infusion That Now Has Been Able To Be Paid Back?
That money has been replaced by other money, so she can still spend as planned. What part of a 'loan' is not being understood here?

And I'm sure if there comes a point where she requires additional funds to stay competitive, she will loan herself that money again. What's the issue here?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:31 PM
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7. at least Romney actually spent his money, with Hillary it was just a Phantom
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:45 PM
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10. Romney's money was a loan, too
Had he won, he would've kept holding fundraisers to pay himself back.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:42 PM
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16. it's not a loan if he doesn't get the money back
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:11 PM
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18. Yes it is
He'll probably end up writing it off as a loss, but it was a loan, not a gift.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:14 PM
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19. how is it not a donation, if he does not get it back?
the definition of a loan is that it is something that is repayed

I thought Hillary believed in her campaign so much she was willing to put up her own money, that is what she said.
I guess that wasn't the case after all.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:16 PM
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20. You should learn a tiny little bit
about accounting.

He can still hold fundraisers to help pay off the debt - but he probably won't be too successful.

But on the books, it's a loan, not a gift. You're being silly now.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:45 PM
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9. Curious:
Mr. Obama’s fund-raising dominance, especially his announcement on Jan. 31 that he had raised $32 million, has sent jitters through Mrs. Clinton’s donor base. Some of her biggest donors grew even more concerned on Wednesday when her advisers said that she had lent the campaign $5 million of her own money and that some senior aides were working this month without salaries.

Several donors and senior aides said they were not aware of the loan until Wednesday.

Mrs. Clinton’s team mobilized Thursday to send reassuring messages to donors and supporters. The campaign first announced raising $4 million in 24 hours, then $6 million in 36 hours and then $7.5 million in total since Feb. 1.

Neither her nor Mr. Obama’s figures could be confirmed because fund-raising reports for this period will be made public in April.

“February is going to be by far our biggest month, by a huge amount,” Terry McAuliffe, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, said in a conference call on Thursday with 300 donors that the campaign allowed reporters to listen to.

“It’s going to allow us to do everything we needed to do,” Mr. McAuliffe added, noting that the campaign would begin advertisements next week in Ohio and Texas, which hold primaries on March 4 with hundreds of delegates at stake.

Mr. Obama, speaking to reporters, zeroed in on Mrs. Clinton’s loan and said that her decision not to disclose her income tax returns raised questions about the loan.

“I’ll just say that I’ve released my tax returns,” he said, responding to a question about tax returns. “That’s been a policy I’ve maintained consistently. I think the American people deserve to know where you get your income from.”

Mr. Obama stopped short of issuing a call for Mrs. Clinton and former President Bill Clinton to release their returns.

“I’m not going to get into the intricacies of their finances,” Mr. Obama told reporters as he flew to a rally in Nebraska. “That’s something that you’ll have to ask them.”

Nebraska holds nominating caucuses on Saturday.

Clinton campaign officials said she would release her returns if she won the nomination. The officials said there was enough information in her public Senate financial disclosures to assess her personal finances.

Her Senate forms do not list exact deductible expenses like interest or medical costs. The tax returns would show exact interest and dividends from investments, not just the ranges on the disclosure forms.

Mrs. Clinton has been an advocate for transparency in campaign finance, as has Mr. Obama.

For all the confidence expressed by the Clinton campaign, the onus remains on Mrs. Clinton to show fund-raising muscle, in view of her raising less and relying on the loan as well as a $10 million transfer last year from her Senate campaign account to her presidential account.

Advisers said the loan was made on Jan. 28 from Mrs. Clinton’s share of her personal funds that she has with Mr. Clinton. They said it was not a bank loan, nor was collateral needed to secure it. The advisers said no investments were liquidated to make the loan.

The loan was not disclosed widely until after the vote on Tuesday night, Clinton advisers said, for fear that the news might make Mrs. Clinton look like a fading candidate. Several donors said Wednesday that they were concerned that the campaign was essentially running on fumes, especially when they learned that some aides were working without pay. Shortly after midnight Wednesday, however, the Clinton team issued an e-mail message saying that it had raised $3 million in 24 hours. By daylight on Thursday, the advisers said the campaign was so successful that all aides would be paid and that Mrs. Clinton’s war chest seemed to be stabilizing.

The advisers used the conference call in part to focus attention on the Ohio and Texas primaries. The aides say Mrs. Clinton believes she has a better chance in those states than in many of the contests this month like Hawaii, Louisiana, Maryland, Virginia and Washington State.

“I think we’ll have some bumps in the road, some difficult states in the next week or two,” Mark Penn, the senior strategist of the campaign, told the donors.

He and Mr. McAuliffe emphasized the importance of the Ohio and Texas primaries.

Mr. Obama focused Wednesday on the next primaries and his fund-raising. The $32 million in January, aides said, came from 275,000 people who gave $100 or less. Ninety percent of the money came from online donations.

The disparity between his contributions and Mrs. Clinton’s, he said, demonstrate a gap in enthusiasm.

“I think there’s no doubt that she has not generated the kind of grass-roots enthusiasm that we have,” Mr. Obama said. “It’s not for lack of trying. She’s got a former president actively fund raising for her, as well as people like Terry McAuliffe. But what we’ve done is created this base where people send $25 checks, $50 checks on an ongoing basis.”

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So money raised on Feb. 5 that was supposed to help her campaign compete has already been used to repaid a loan made Jan. 28?


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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:50 PM
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11. Again you ask a question you know the answer to, just for the Drama.
You bore me.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:55 PM
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12. "You bore me." Did someone indicate that I was here for your amusement? n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:56 PM
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13. You can't possibly be here for any other reason.
Heaven knows you do nothing for your candidate.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:58 PM
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14. "Heaven knows you do nothing for your candidate." You are a tremendous help to yours
:sarcasm:
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:00 PM
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15. Terry McAuliffe, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman
There's the explanation right there.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:53 PM
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17. ProSense, why don't you talk more about Romney's 35 million loan to himself...
When is Obama going to pay back the balance of the Rezco money?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:20 PM
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21. "When is Obama going to pay back the balance of the Rezco money?" Who is Rezco? n/t
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