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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:32 PM
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Prediction: Edwards will endorse Clinton or no one at all
Having worked for Edwards twice I think the reason he has not made an endorsement yet is that both Clinton and Obama tend to court corporations over people. But I don't think he will ever endorse Obama over Clinton. I think he knows a fake when he sees one, and that it probably grates on him that Obama pretends to be everything he not.

Clinton would rather lose a battle rather than bend to corporate healthcare giants, defense contractors and the like. I think Edwards knows that and respects it. She is sooooo much stronger in that regard than Bill ever was. Obama will sell out just like he did carrying water for Rezko to get him government money for his slums.

But I can't see any scenario where Obama gets an Edwards endorsement. And THAT ought to tell you something, people.
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hill08 Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:33 PM
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1. I agree
Edwards will endorse Hill and will look good doing it.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:34 PM
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2. Thanks for that insight
I hope you're correct. I don't know Edwards personally, but that's the impression I've had of him.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:34 PM
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3. Please..."Clinton would rather lose a battle rather than bend to corporate healthcare giants.."
Yea right.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:48 PM
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19. Yeah, I found that line kinda hilarious myself.
I personally don't know how much better Obama would be in that regard, but come on...
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:48 PM
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20. She's proved it many, many times
She may take corporate money, but she is not bought and paid for like Obama. You think Obama didn't know Rezko was a slum lord when he wrote letters to help him get millions in govt money? Tell me how Clinton has done anything so disgusting.

Tony Rezko made Obama in Chicago. Handpicked him and gave him the money to get where he is. He OWNS Obama. And for Obama to pretend he barely knows him proves to me what a complete crook Obama is.
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:35 PM
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4. I pray
you are WRONG.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:36 PM
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5. Edwards went after Clinton in those debates like she was George Bush...
him and Obama tag teamed her. Come on.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:38 PM
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9. You must have seen different debates
The ones I saw Obama picked fights with Clinton, she tried to defend herself and Edwards looked on in amazement.

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:43 PM
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17. "him and Obama..."?????
Have any of you Obamatrons graduated high school?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:36 PM
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6. If Edwards is to endorse the Status Quo.........who has barely spoken on poverty......
then what was his campaign message all about to begin with? :shrug:
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hill08 Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:39 PM
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12. Hill's voters are the voters Edwards has been targeting
If he hopes for his endorsement to count, to work, he will endorse Hill, not Obama with his upper class Dems and indies (who will vote for the war hero maverick when the time comes for the decision that matters)
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:40 PM
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13. How soon some forget the Clinton Administration, ..Middle and lower classes, is what Bill stood for.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:41 PM
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16. Clinton stood for a prosperous America for all.
That is what was so great about him. Very fair.
Hillary will do the same and more!
:kick:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:37 PM
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7. I can't fathom Edwards endorsing Clinton...
...and if he does, he's certainly not the person I thought he was.

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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 PM
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28. More likely you have sucked up the media spin on Obama
... instead of actually reading the nitty gritty on his proposals. I'm sure Edwards has actually read and compared them.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:27 PM
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30. How presumptuous and ill-informed of you...
You have a lot of nerve.

You don't know me. You don't know what I've read or how I arrived
at my decision to support Obama.

Nice knee-jerk, ill-informed negativity.

Yeah, just poor little ol me over here, sucked up by the "media spin on Obama"

:eyes:

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:38 PM
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8. It would make the most sense for him to endorse...
a fighter. Obama and Clinton are not perfect, but the latter knows it and admits to it.
Also, Clinton want to settle the score with the right and put them away. Obama wants to play nice with them.
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JKaiser Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:38 PM
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10. That makes me happy!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:38 PM
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11. That is what I have been thinking also....! In Blue H.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:40 PM
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14. Clinton's HC plan IS closer to the one Edwards proposed.
I don't know what he'll do as far a support, but I really don't think he will ever endorse Obama. And before you hammer me for picking on Obama, I voted for him last Tuesday. I prefer Hillary's health care plan, but I decided to take a chance on a new family in the WH this time. I honestly feel pretty bad about that too. Her name really has nothing to do with Hillary's abilities, and I believe she would do a great job!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:49 PM
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21. That's true, and I think it's the only thing that has kept him from endorsing Obama. n/t
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:41 PM
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15. Excellent Prediction with your.....




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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:45 PM
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18. What you can and can't see
Tells me nothing but your opinion. But thanks for sharing :hi:

Obamas' platform is far more aggressive in helping the poor. Though nothing like Edwards' multifaceted plan, his proposals on education, NON-mandated healthcare, public transportation etc make a fairly strong counterpoint to Clintons' "trickledown from the middleclass" plan.

Furthermore Edwards and Obama got along ALOT better throughout the first half of the primaries. I would be shocked if he endorsed her.

What's more Al Gore isn't even endorsing her. And lemme tell you for him to NOT endorse a longtime friend, and someone that endorsed him in his run for pres is a pretty strong statement. I mean hell, he was Clintons' VEEP! Talk about a slap in the face eh?

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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:54 PM
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25. What, specifically, about Obama's platform is "far more aggressive
in helping the poor" -- I ask because that is just objectively untrue. There is no way you can read both their position papers and defend that statement. If you think you can, please do. Because it's just pure bullshit.
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sofeisty Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:51 PM
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22. I think you are right...at least I hope so.
I think Edwards doesn't want to go down on a losing ticket again and that might be reason enough to support Obama. But, he knows that nothing will get done with BO and so if he really wants change he'll support Clinton.

Great post.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:51 PM
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23. Edwards will choose a fighter - that's Hillary
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:51 AM
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40. If Hillary is such a "fighter", then why is this primary fight so hard for her to wrap up?
I mean, it really looks like Obama is a *great* fighter against the Clinton Machine. And we'll see even more proof of this on Tuesday.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:54 PM
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24. As the saying goes..............
From your lips to God's ears. I honestly think that Hillary would make an awesome president, she's much tougher than Obama and would stand her ground against the right wingers.

I soooooo wish that Obama could have waited a few years until he actually had built some experience at a national level. Hillary campaigned for him, fund raised for him and I even remember Obama saying in an interview that he had modeled his first year after Hillary's. Then, for the love of all that is holy, why did he have to run this year????????? We could have had two great presidents, first Hillary and then Obama. Now we have a civil war within the party.

It really saddens me.........
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:55 PM
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26. Obama sells out and his ethics are a question mark. That's all Edwards knows about him.
correct
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:56 PM
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27. I think that all you Hillary-despisers should think about the people
who have already endorsed her like Wesley Clark and Robert Kennedy, Jr. There are not many (Al Gore not withstanding) that I admire more than those two great statesmen.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 07:03 PM
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29. Hillary won't bend to Healthcare Giants?
Dear me. Are you serious?

Lobbyists: http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008

HRC #1 with $823,087

Pharma: http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=H04

HRC #1 with $349,270

Insurance: http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F09

HRC #2 with $666,121 (Chris Dodd is #1)

Oil & Gas: http://opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=E01

HRC #1 with $268,562
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:29 PM
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31. Hillbots are really pathetic when it comes to the facts.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:30 PM
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32. I'm not so sure
Obama won SC and LA two states close to Edwards heart. Obama put out a detailed plan to help N.O, LA. I think Obama has a good shot at an endorsement.
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:55 PM
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33. That would be as stupid as stupid gets...
John Edwards would lose any possibility at being Attorney-General.

Besides, he has said repeatedly that Obama is an "agent of change."

I say he endorses Obama.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:56 PM
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34. we shall see...
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:57 PM
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35. I will be very disappointed if him if that happens.
I don't see how Edwards can conscientiously give his support to a candidate like Clinton. Unless she promised to propose all of the exact same legislation he would have as President.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:59 PM
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36. did you watch the debates?
He referred to Obama and himself as the candidates for change and Clinton as the status quo. I would faint if he endorsed her.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:40 AM
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37. I see the smoke, show me the fire
I keep hearing Rezko. So far, everything i hear is inuendo or hearsay. Any specifics that have been mentioned have been rapidly refuted. Ive seen a couple of your posts referencing it. Please show me the fire.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:42 AM
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38. Edwards will endorse Obama
And my guess is you will be no where to be found when he does
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:43 AM
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39. i think there is def a deal
and the deal is that in payback for defending bill in 1999 against the Republican Coup D'etat attempt, she will give him a VP spot on the ticket if he endorses her. rather fair, not to mention their support is amongst similar voters
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