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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:40 PM
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Let's keep this in perspective. Hillary is still very much within striking distance.
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 09:58 PM by elixir
As horrible as the race has been for Hillary since super duper Tuesday, she's still very much in this race. And wouldn't it be just like the Clintons to get back into this thing. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:41 PM
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1. I agree, it aint over till the fat lady sings. nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:41 PM
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2. Yes, she is. OH and TX can turn this around. She's a master at controlling expectations.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM
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3. Let's get this straight. Obama is the FRONT RUNNER!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM
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7. He never was, and he is not.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:43 PM
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10. Yes he is. He has the momentum and the delegate lead...
after tonight.

So stop this underdog shit!
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:48 PM
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14. You're right!
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 09:48 PM by BeatleBoot


Obama awaits the trial of Antoin "Tony" Rezko.




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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 PM
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16. Hillary Clinton is the establishment. Obama is the insurgent.
He was never supposed to win. This was Hillary's time... :)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 PM
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25. Obama has the entire msm behind him. Hillary is the underdog
She is also at a big financial disadvantage.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:24 PM
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29. Underdog? Hillary Clinton was the queen of National Polls
until a couple of days ago!
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:33 PM
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32. That is before the $1 million a day candidate began bombarding folks with ads
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:53 PM
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19. Obama: 1207 Clinton: 1194. she's within striking distance.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:25 PM
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30. Those totals include superdelegates. So no, really, she isn't.
In COMMITTED DELEGATES...Obama leads by over 100. She's NOT within 'striking distance'. The writing is on the wall. There are several hundred uncommitted superdelegates who're waiting to see which way the wind is blowing befire they commit; with Obama's (increasing) lead in committed delegate totals, they're likely to back him. And Hillary won't get the 60%+ of the vote she needs in TX and OH to make up the numbers.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:55 PM
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23. It's still pretty much a tie, if Obama wins Wisconsin I might call him the frontruner
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM
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4. But I'm Thinking That The Inevitable Bit Is Toast
And resistance? No longer futile.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM
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new surveyusa she's up by 17 in ohio nt
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM
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5. Agreed
There's no way she should give up.
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kypp Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM
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6. The sooner she concedes,
the better off we'll be for November.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:45 PM
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13. who's we?
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kypp Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:54 PM
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20. Those of us who are desperate for change.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:55 PM
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22. If Obama was down by less than 20 delegates, would you ask him to concede?
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kypp Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 PM
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24. No, but ...
she's down by 100 pledged delegates now, without counting DC.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM
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8. She has to win HUGE in Texas and Ohio...something she has yet to do anywhere yet....
Not impossible, just not at all probable.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:44 PM
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12. Not gonna happen.
It just won't.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:43 PM
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9. I would agree





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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:43 PM
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11. Yes, but her campaign is apparantly in disarray, and the momentum...
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 PM by speedoo
is with her opponent, who is now gaining in her "firewall" voter groups: latinos and women. She's in big trouble.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:48 PM
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15. you're right, it's not over but 10 in a row is pretty damn awesome.
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A_Titanic_Mess Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 PM
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17. Tom Brokaw states Hillary winning the polls....
when polls asked who will be the best commander in chief, and who will be ready on day one. But her "negatives" are what keep people from supporting her. I just don't get it...if you think she will be ready day one, and you think she will be the strongest president of the two, then why gamble on the unknown because of perceived negatives???
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:15 PM
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27. It's the image thing.
Obama is getting these wins because of the image, not the reality. Hillary is ready to lead on day one.
If the people want another Bush, then so be it...I am not happy, but so be it.....
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:51 PM
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18. I agree, but her big supporters are getting very antsy.
I almost fell out of my chair hearing Paul Begala saying that as a supporter, he wanted to see her winning. You'd think he would just parrot some lines about TX, OH and PA, but he was making a lot of the fact that she was in the middle of a long dry spell.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:54 PM
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21. perspective. nt
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:10 PM
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26. She's in a rough patch but this year has proved everything is possible
if not probable
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:23 PM
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28. Just watch the money. Hope is one thing...
.. She didn't just lose 3 states tonight. She lost $25 mil.
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yeswecan08 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:27 PM
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31. VA was the tipping point. Hillary has no hope going forward
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:38 PM
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33. She's Toast....
She won California on absentee ballots and 1st generation Mexican immigrants well before Obama became the media darling.

She has almost nothing else to hang her hat on, other than a completely screwed up situation in Florida. No one has the stomach for another legal fight in Florida to determine a potential Presidency.

It's just waiting for a fat lady to sing.
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