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sofeisty Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:47 PM
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Will the media show Obama's teleprompter?
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 09:52 PM by sofeisty
One of the reporters covering the speech an hour before Obama landed already said they were setting them up. Of course, they never pan out far enough to actually SHOW the teleprompters, do they???

He uses one quite often. He did during the Kennedy endorsement speech. He used one in Kansas for his speech here.

Here is an article about BO unplugged.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:47 PM
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1. Your point being...?
Redstone
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sofeisty Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 PM
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25. It's not hard to be eloquent when you are reading...
I think it goes to his image and how it might not be what it seems.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:59 PM
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27. Oh *really*?
How many speeches in front of 20,000 people have you given? yeah, it's really easy.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:08 PM
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30. I was kinda wondering the same thing. I'm still waiting for a response from the OP,
complete with the dredentials that make him / her / it such an expert on public speaking.

Redstone
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:22 PM
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36. I was in college speech and debate club
persuasive public speaking is not an easy skill.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:56 PM
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40. I was a musician, so I know. Still silence from the OP, eh?
Redstone
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:09 AM
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46. I agree, I was in a debate club also
public speaking is a very difficult thing to do. Many fear it more than death.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:07 PM
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29. Oh, so please tell us how much public speaking YOU have done, and what makes you such
an expert on the subject?

Let's see your credentials, OK?

Redstone
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:49 AM
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43. If Obama IS using teleprompters, it hardly proves that HRC is the inherently superior choice.
And the delivery isn't really related to the teleprompter. JFK and LBJ both used them during televised addresses to the nation, and you can still see a huge difference in the quality of communications skills between the two of them.
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:02 PM
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55. Obviously you have never done it.
Or you would know how difficult it is. Especially when speeing in front of 15,000 plus people, not to mentiont he MILLIONS watching on TV.

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A_Titanic_Mess Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:00 PM
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The point is....
The point is early today there was a hateful post on DU about Hillary using hand notes, yet trying to give the impression that Obama uses nothing to help during his speeches, which is not true. I will try to locate the post and link it. Frankly, the whole thing is silly as both candidates use cards and/or teleprompters. You have to expect though when one side calls a candidate out for doing this, the other side is going to get their dig in also.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:10 PM
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32. Oh, I see. More childish tit-for-tat. Jesus. And you actually expect me to say "Oh, sure,
that's just fine, let's keep this section of DU at the fourth-grade level it's been at?"

Right.

Redstone
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:47 PM
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2. huh? Who cares? (eom)
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:47 PM
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3. they showed them in Iowa, I think it mainly depends on the camera angle, locat and the podium height
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:48 PM
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4. Who the fuck cares?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:51 PM
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15. Seriously.
He must have the spiffy glass sliver ones.

But I don't see them when they go to wide shot....

I think the man can memorize a stump speech.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:52 PM
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19. so eloquent,
and yet, still so right.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:48 PM
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5. he actually has no teleprompter
He had note cards for his opening thank yous, but no teleprompter for this . .
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 PM
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6. They all use teleprompters, at least for major speeches. What's your point?
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 PM by ocelot
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:31 AM
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50. possibly it could be that, like W, O doesn't do well when unscripted. nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 PM
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7. Is that all you got?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 PM
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14. Apparently so. But look, he / she / it has managed to get a bunch of us to pay attention to
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 09:51 PM by Redstone
his /her / its bullshit, pointless question anyway.

What does that tell you, not only about the OP, but about us (yes, including me) as well?

Redstone
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 PM
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8. Sometimes he uses one, sometimes he doesn't.
If he has a new speech, he uses it.

What's your point?
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:52 PM
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20. In hartofrd he had a couple of note cards that he put down. I don't see what the point is either.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:54 PM
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24. ...Maybe this explains why Obama was ending his California Primary stump speeches with the words
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 10:01 PM by Ken Burch
"You Go Fuck Yourself, San Diego".


:sarcasm:
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 PM
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9. God FORBID we have a candidate who actually thinks about what he's going to say before he says it
and cares enough about his audience to prepare thoughtful comments rather than coming out and screaming his stump speech at them.

What a jerk! :sarcasm:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:51 PM
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17. Yeah, Mr. Articulate vs. The Shrill, Strident Nag, eh?
:sarcasm:

Nothing says "I love you" more than a cue card.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:20 PM
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35. I don't think she's shrill, strident or a nag
I think she's wonderful. And so is he.

Not mad at either of them.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 PM
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10. do you want read along with him? You gotta a bouncy ball?
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Hill_YesWeWill Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 PM
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11. you know what? right when I read this I looked up at Obama on the tv
and they panned out and I couldn't see any teleprompters!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 PM
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12. They've panned out at least twice
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 09:54 PM by tammywammy
I'm not seeing one.


edited to add: I'm putting you on my "buddy" list.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 PM
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13. waaaaaa waaaaa
:rofl:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:53 PM
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21. Guys, STOP, STOP, STOP, just STOP replying to such an obvious flamebait post, PLEASE!
I will if you will. We need to let threads like this one, from posters like this one, die the death they so richly deserve.

Redstone
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:52 PM
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39. I just think it's interesting when a poster cite Bill Kristol's RW mag.....
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 10:52 PM by Garbo 2004
The article's contention is that when Obama goes off script he reveals himself to be......a LIBERAL!! And an angry one too. OMG!

:D
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:58 PM
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41. And further interesting when that poster asks a trollish questions and runs away.
Isn't it?

Redstone
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:51 PM
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16. Nobody ever claimed Obama was adlibbing his speeches.
The public has undoubtably guessed that, like everybody else, Obama uses a teleprompter. Do you honestly think this matters?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:48 PM
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38. MSNBC - Tweety has lied several times about this very issue.
In the early primaries Tweety repeatedly said how great a speaker Obama is as he very pointedly raved that he was not using teleprompters - even though he was. Don't know if Tweety is still pushing that lie (among others) because I have turned him off.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:46 AM
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42. I was unaware of that. Still, you can't hold Obama responsible for what Tweety says about this.
Tweety is not an Obama staffer.

And Tweety was a twit to say such a thing. He should have known better.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:52 PM
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52. He did know better.
He has an agenda.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:51 PM
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18. Why should they?
Unless you want to read along with him. It's obvious he uses a telepromter, he looks down at it from time to time.

Am I missing a point you are trying to make?
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:53 PM
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22. Happy? They've panned out 3 times now
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:53 PM
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23. Do they ever show ANYBODY['S teleprompter??? nt
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:58 PM
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26. HOW DARE YOU!!!
Don't you know GOD HIMSELF is speaking thru the Obamanitor?

</sarcasm>

Seriously though, prompter or no...

wait a second, the WEEKLY STANDARD? This is the link you bring us?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

where's my violin?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:00 PM
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28. Is this a major revelation? Should I be worried about it?
Will the telepromter actually show proof of some devious subterfuge?

Inquiring minds want to know!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:08 PM
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31. who did you used to be?
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Hill_YesWeWill Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:12 PM
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34. lol nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:11 PM
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33. Actually, he almost never uses one. Tonight was unusual, probably because he had new material. NT
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:40 PM
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37. Think you missed point of article & you do know it's from a famous right wing rag, yes?
Interesting that you should cite Bill Kristol's Weekly Standard.

The point of the article is (horror) that when Obama goes off script he's just another "angry liberal" like that "class warfare" advocatin' John Edwards. Oh the humanity! Obama's really a liberal!!!

LOL. Think an article that's intended to "out" Obama as a liberal is going to hurt Obama here?

Enjoy your stay
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:58 AM
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44. You've gotta be kidding. That author is clueless.
He says Obama was "improvising" during his speech at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner when he said:

"Now I understand some of the excitement doesn't have to do with me. I know that whatever else happens whatever twists and turns this campaign may take, when you go into that polling place next November, the name George Bush won't be
on the ballot and that makes everybody pretty cheerful. Everyone's happy about that. The name of my cousin Dick Cheney won't be on the ballot. That was embarrassing when that news came out. When they do these genealogical surveys, you want to be related to somebody cool. So, but, his name wont be on the ballot."

This is no improv. It's his stump speech. And it is neither "a jeremiad" or "the partisan anger that has so poisoned the Democratic party". You have to giggle that the author is even trying to pull that one over on their readers.

And honestly? Every other candidate running wishes they could deliver a speech as well with a teleprompter as Obama does with index cards. He did fine.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:06 AM
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45. I've seen Obama speak with and without a teleprompter
If you've ever done anything where you are on stage before an audience, having notes and other tools as a guide are certainly "forgiveable".

I saw and recorded Obama's speech in Madison and he made a fantastic speech.... I'd guess they can be guides.


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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:10 AM
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47. thanks
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:11 AM
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48. OP is no longer with us. n/t
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:06 AM
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51. I've seen Obama speak several times
Only once did he have a teleprompter, and on that occasion, the damn thing fell apart when they were setting it up. At the Oprah rally at Verizon Wireless Arena, there was no teleprompter; at his UNH-Manchester event, there was no teleprompter; at his Manchester town hall meeting right before the primary, there was no teleprompter.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:58 PM
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53. Who cares? nt
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:00 PM
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54. It's not a teleprompter, it's a "hopeprompter"
Either get on the train now, or be left out to dry.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:05 PM
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56. Op musta been the reincarnation of an ignored poster. n/t
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