Clinton wins and puts her economic recovery plan in place...

[OzarkDem]

How long will it take to turn the economy around?

Her short term, quick turnaround plan...

$40 billion in (temporary) tax rebates for middle income and working families
$30 billion for housing crisis w/ 90 day moratorium on foreclosures; 5 yr freeze on interest rates on subprime mortgages
$25 billion in immediate energy assistance
$5 billion to jumpstart job growth in energy efficiency and alternative energy businesses
$10 billion to extend and broaden unemployment insurance

Sounds a lot like the one that her husband used so successfully to jump-start the economy after Bush I.

[thunder rising]

1. And what, borrows the money? From who, China?

[OzarkDem]

2. Oh, another GOP talking point

Actually, cutting taxes on the wealthiest Americans and corporations will pay some of it.

The beauty of this plan and similar ones in her husband's administration, were that they're geared towards fast economic stimulus. Boosting jobs and spending actually puts more tax money back into the sytem and the program mostly pays for itself.

[papau]

3. Clinton knows the job - Obama knows only how the GOP loves small step bipartisanship

[rodeodance]

21. people are hurting--small step approach sucks!

[MadHound]

23. Huh!?

So you're saying that Hillary is going to both spend approx. 100 billion and cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans and corporations at the same time, and somehow this is going to ease our debt load? Umm, that is pure, unadulterated Bush economics, you know, the kind that got us into this 9 trillion dollar hole. How do you think more of the same will get us out of it?

[HeraldSquare212]

4. Actually, Bill had to cut his plan back a lot.

He ended up with something well short of what he wanted - and sacrificed several first-term members of the House of Reps to get it.

[papau]

5. True - but unlike Obama he asked for a lot and only gave back little to get it through Congress -

If Obama wins you can kiss that "Medicare option for everyone" good by as Obama leaves that on the floor so as to get GOP votes and love.

[HeraldSquare212]

8. No, I think he gave up a lot.

Very early in his term, he was in a life-or-death struggle.

[OzarkDem]

11. Dems controlled Congress then

if he had, it wouldn't have worked. He just knew how to work Congress to get what he wanted.

Keep in mind, the first two years of Clintons first term, Dems were in control of Congress.

[HeraldSquare212]

17. Right, but the Reps gave him a real fight and he backed down a lot.

He had to use the vote of a first-term Representative from a Republican area of Pennsylvania; she was defeated in her reelection because of that vote.

[OzarkDem]

31. One of my greatest memories

is of working as a volunteer when Clinton came to Cleveland to announce his economic reform package. (He loves Cleveland and came here for a lot of events).

I'd already read the plan and knew it was a good one, but so many in the news media, and some Dems too, were pooh-poohing it. The MSM was harping on it so bad, everyone was afraid to praise it.

I thought he needed a good send off when he announced it. I was assigned to work behind the video camera riser in the back of the hotel ballroom, to keep people from climbing on during the speech and making the cameras wobble. All the print guys from Time, Newsweek, etc. were sitting there. As Clinton gave his speech and made key points about the plan, he would get lukewarm applause. So I began clapping and cheering at the applause lines. No one could see me because I was behind the riser (except the newspaper guys who made a smart ass remark - "how much are they paying you to do that?"). I kept cheering and the crowd caught on and started applauding louder. When Clinton got to the good parts of the plan, I gave a couple of Ozark style whoops. After that it was standing O's.

Just my little story about how I helped Bill sell his first economic plan.

[rodeodance]

20. and DEms will be in control when Hillary takes over :-)

[OzarkDem]

28. and that will make a quick turnaround even more likely

Dems in Congress are desperate to help their states and districts, there may not be a lot of quibbling over an economic plan.

[HeraldSquare212]

32. Here's a story on what it took to get it passed in the House

Looks like don't ask-don't tell was on the table during that negotiation.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE5DF163CF93BA15756C0A965958260&scp=123&sq=bill%20clinton%20stimulus%20plan&st=nyt

[OzarkDem]

10. He got most of it through

recall, Al Gore cast the tie breaking vote. And it worked, boy did it work, and fast.

[Armstead]

6. Too bad the stimulus got shipped out of the country

[madrchsod]

9. no shit

before we did have some jobs to go back to--this time there is`t any

[OzarkDem]

13. Starting back

the job growth will begin with infrastructue and (check Hillary's plan) investment in "green collar jobs", underwriting startups for businesses in alternative energy and improving energy efficiency.

[jackson_dem]

12. Over twenty million jobs were created under Bill and median wages rose for the first time in decades

[madrchsod]

7. sorry i can`t wait that long

our cowards in the senate sold us out what makes you think hillary or obama plan would`t receive the same fate?.

we are dying out here in the real world now but no one listens

[OzarkDem]

14. I can't speak for Obama

but I can say that Clinton took the time to put together a very good, very detailed plan for economic recovery. She wouldn't have done that if she didn't plan to push it through.

Dems would support it in Congress and with a Dem in the WH, the GOP'ers couldn't slow it down.

[rosesaylavee]

15. Its a good plan.

if she doesn't get the nomination, I would hope that Obama takes it up.

[Spiffarino]

16. Right. H=however it turns out they need to share ideas

They're going to have to work together if the Democratic party is to take the White House, and they both have great points. And whomever Edwards endorses is going to have to toe the line on aid to the poor.

I see this as one giant win for the majority of Americans.

[rodeodance]

18. I heard Bill--about 2 weeks ago give a speech on the economy--jobs creating, green

--like an FDR works program

[OzarkDem]

24. He's a genius at it

I would love to see what he and Hillary could bring about this time. He was already moving the US economy forward investing in high tech manufacturing, etc. The GOP cut back a lot of it before he had a chance to get it rolling, but it would be easy to pick up again.

I'd much rather see leaders in office who have been through this before and have done it well, no mistakes or missteps. They already know what works and what doesn't. And they truly enjoy getting into these projects and making them happen.

[rodeodance]

19. REC and thanks

[woolldog]

22. Wapo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR2008012202614.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

[OzarkDem]

26. Sorry, I disagree

She's wrong about Obama and Clinton's plan, but hey, its WaPo, what do you expect.

[woolldog]

30. That's cool.

It was strictly, FYI.

[elixir]

25. That's what I like, a positive outlook. Let's keep it going, thanks.

[OzarkDem]

27. Clinton wins on policy any day of the week

[apocalypsehow]

29. Maybe her supporters should focus on winning the nomination of our Party first, before

we start discussing the implementation of any economic recovery plans. Just a thought.

[onetinsoldier]

33. great plans!

great plans alone are useless,you have to be able to excite and lead people,obama will be better at this by far,hillary's plans to win the nomination do not seem to be working