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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:50 PM
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I admit it. I still fear a HRC presidency
It pains me to say so, but it is so.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:52 PM
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1. If it picks you up any, you're not alone. I do, too. (NT)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:52 PM
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2. Maybe Dr. Phil can help you with that.
I believe that there are quite a few people who support Obama so fervently because they hate Hillary.

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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:53 PM
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6. I can assure you there's at least one...
...and that would be me. Still, I was happy and proud to vote for Obama today anyway, Hillary involved or not.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:56 PM
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10. Agreed
I never thought of voting for ANYONE other then Dennis Kucinich. But once it looked like BO could stop HRC, I fucking donated cash to him! And voted for him too.

I used to be the biggest HRC fan.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:02 PM
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15. I voted for Obama to punish the Clintons
Here is why:

* NAFTA
* Welfare Deform
* the Telecommunications Act of 1996
* the "Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996"
* the Iraq economic sanctions that killed over 500,000 Iraqis (mostly children)
* the bombing of Iraq, Yugoslavia and Sudan during the 1990s
* Hillary's vote to authorize Bush's illegal attack on Iraq that has killed over one million Iraqis
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:39 PM
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28. Me too! Obama is a nice guy, but I'm mostly thrilled at the opportunity...
... to punish the Clintons.


:toast:

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:52 PM
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3. As long as it's a Democrat. nt
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:53 PM
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4. You remind me of all those people who feared a Gore
presidency.

Believe me, a HRC presidency would be far better than a McCain presidency.

Think war. Think Supreme Court justices. Think stability of character.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:53 PM
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5. Better worry about a HRC nomination
you'll never see a HRC presidency!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:53 PM
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7. I don't fear a HRC presidency as much as I do an HRC candidacy
She makes all those right wingers froth at the mouth and ensures that an otherwise depressed Republican base will turn out and vote.

I'm sure she'd be a good president, but then again I'm not really up for the Clinton Wars II either.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:53 PM
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8. Me too.
She can't win clean, but neither could W, or Nixon either for that matter.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:54 PM
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9. You fear too much. It's a waste of time.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:57 PM
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12. :)
I also promised to stay out of GD:p - it makes me too negative.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:58 PM
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13. Nobody expected her to win NH but there you go.
Basically we're still at the mercy of the vote counters. That's why I think Texas and Ohio are supposedly "firewalls." It is well to be wary.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:40 PM
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23. kind of makes you wonder
doesn't it?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:57 PM
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11. Please - tell us why?
:popcorn:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:32 AM
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16. I fear another 8 years of gop-lite dlc triangulation
:kick:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:33 AM
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18. which of course is much worse than... McCain's bushisms on steroids?
:shrug:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:01 PM
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19. Mac know what it is like to be tortured... he knows the hell of war
HRC would need to be an uber hawk to ensure reelection.
HRC talked up the threat of Iraq and Iran.
She would need to kick ass and take their gas.
Mac might sing bomb Iran, but I doubt he would send troops into harms way to win an election.

HRC (or Obama, God willing) will get my NYS electoral vote.
I for one, don't fear Mac at all.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:05 PM
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21. you are delusional. mccain will be just as bad as bush.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:15 PM
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22. We know that we won't get a real deal for working people any time soon.
Perhaps the sheeple will see the light after another 8 years of neo-con rule.

I know many supporters of Mac... of HRC... of Obama... none of them really want a real deal, a new deal with teeth.

Anyway, I doubt Mac can beat either HRC or BO.

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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:10 PM
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24. McCain opposes ban on waterboarding..,.
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yeswecan08 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:59 PM
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14. HRC is history tonight - March 4 for sure
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:33 AM
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17. Bush Clinton Bush Clinton - No thanks - time to make a pitstop for some real hope! n/t
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:04 PM
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20. I fear a HRC nomination. There will never be a HRC presidency.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:20 PM
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25. As an Obama supporter, I don't fear an HRC Presidency, but I do fear
an HRC candidacy. This is simply because I think she gives us the least chance of winning the general election. If she did win the general, however, I think she'd make a very good president.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:28 PM
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26. I do too. Her husband's years were very bad for me.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:33 PM
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27. Why? nt
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