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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:54 AM
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will GD:P destroy the Democratic Party?
sheesh
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:55 AM
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1. No. DUers reflect a tiny percentage of the real world n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:58 AM
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3. really? are you sure?
Curses! Stymied once again by a relentless literalist bot!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:00 AM
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6. Tone is tough to understand on the internet
with out :sarcasm: smilies I'm usually pretty clueless.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:04 AM
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8. me too
I keep forgetting to use them.

:+
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:58 AM
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2. If we want to. We're POWERFUL! nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:58 AM
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4. And motivated!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:05 PM
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24. And BRILLIANT! nt
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:59 AM
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5. It's a little crazy in here tonight. n/t
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:03 AM
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7. Name a time when there hasn't been infighting in the democratic party
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:05 AM
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9. during Iraq "war" funding, or illegal wiretapping, or impeachment votes
in either house of congress
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:05 AM
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10. I'd be more worried about the blogosphere and the MSM.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:07 AM
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11. no, but it might destroy DU. nt
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:12 AM
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12. Not likely. I just look forward to my state being in play. If Obama hangs tough
and plays out the clock, we will have a Dem on the ticket that could concievably win here. (MT)

We only have 3 electorial votes, true, but just the thought of having a viable Dem on the ticket is exciting from a state wide perspective.

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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:29 AM
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13. Same in NC, we never get a voice in the primaries n/t
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:30 AM
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14. no, there's not enough horsepower here...
:cry:
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:30 AM
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15. Anonymity brings out the worst in people
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:31 AM
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16. Yes.
No, not really.

But if the bile and vitriol that brews in here ever escaped into the party at large...maybe.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:34 AM
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17. Nah, the Democratic Party is doing that well enough already...
http://www.counterpunch.org/green02082008.html



Watch the Democrats Destroy Themselves
Partycide in Six Easy Steps

By DAVID MICHAEL GREEN

(...)

Yep, ladies and gentlemen, if it's particide you're after, Reid and his fellow Democrats would be happy to show you how it's done. It's pretty simple, really. There are just six easy steps that you need to follow to take out a political party that's grown a bit, shall we say, inconvenient.

First of all, make sure it does nothing. If you're looking for a good way to anger voters, here's the best. Have them send you to Congress to address a host of their urgent concerns. Let them invest their full faith in you to rescue them from all the effects of a country gone completely off the rails. Let them believe and let them hope. Then do nothing. Crush their pedestrian little dreams in your blood-soaked hands by protecting corporate interests instead. Spend two years racking up not a single notable legislative accomplishment, and then go before the voters asking for another term. They'll remember your name.

A second excellent technique is to fail to block the worst tendencies of the worst president ever, the very mission you were most entrusted with by the voters. If they hate this president's stinking war, make sure you give him the money for it every time he asks. Send all his reactionary nominees to the Supreme Court after they mock you in bullshit hearings. Yeah, go ahead. Allow a supporter of torture and Constitution-shredding to become the highest law enforcement officer in the land. Etc., etc. Get it? Sure, you can go through the motions of opposition, but at the end of the day, be sure to bungle it so badly that you leave everybody scratching their heads and wondering which party actually controls Congress.

Next, while you're at it, don't do anything to make this hated president and his administration accountable for their manifold crimes of the century....

(...)

Or are Republicans just following their own particide formula, which needless to say, like everything they do is more disciplined and effective than even this fine blueprint belonging to Dumb Dems'? It kinda looks like it, after all. Consider their prescription: Take the biggest surplus in the history of the federal government and turn it into the biggest deficit. Fight a hugely unpopular war. Get caught lying about the rationale for it. Block efforts to save the planet from a looming environmental crisis, while pretending it isn't real. Allow religious crazies to deny effective medical treatment to suffering humans in order to protect about-to-be-destroyed blastocysts. Get caught in all manner of corruption and sexual 'deviancy' while interminably preaching your own holier-than-thou sanctimonious purity. Shred the Constitution in every way imaginable. Load the government up with every incompetent low-wattage political hack you can find stuck behind a church pew somewhere. Make the whole world hate us. Use the federal government to prosecute people on the basis of their party affiliation. Stand by and watch one of the country's major cities drown. Destroy a foreign country. Destroy the middle class of your own country. Be asleep at the wheel (at best) when the country is attacked. Fail to come even close to winning a war against the people you blame for that attack. And so on...

(...)

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:37 AM
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18. 99.99% of Democrats pay no mind to DU
Get real.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:55 AM
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19. and vice versa
being unreal is so much more fun . . .
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:03 AM
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20. No, but...
...it's pretty much ruined DU for me.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:06 AM
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22. People here need to realize that this is NOT real life, its just a forum.
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 03:08 AM by nomorewhopper
Saying things like "I won't ever vote for her because her supporters are so (fill in the blank)" or "i wont vote for him because of all the gloating" Sheesh. i believe i was called a "goon" today, which honestly i'm not sure i've ever been called before in my entire life!

pepole are making real world decisions based on the actions of people on an internet user forum.

they need to take a walk outside and realize that obamanation or the clintons are not some crazy band of roving nazis who are infiltrating these boards. internet boards get silly, but you need to use your head and not impact your thinking based on the actions of some dipshit in a forum.


edit to say i was responding to the OP, not the post above me.


edit to say that this forum WILL coalesce around barack. mark my words.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:05 AM
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21. No, smart people hit Ignore user LIBERALLY
save your sanity. Less anomosity that way too! :hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:09 AM
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23. Thankfully, no. DU has less fans than Morbid Angel.
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 03:10 AM by Forkboy
And if we can't help that crowd who the hell can we help? :)
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