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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:06 AM
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Poll question: When will Hillary Clinton drop out of the race?
9 losses in a row. Strike that. 9 BLOW OUTS in a row.
A massive (and growing) shake-up of her entire campaign staff, when more than half the voting has taken place.
Money troubles, temporarily fixed, requiring her to dig into her own deep pockets.
National polls showing accelerating losses for her, with a majority of all voters now in Obama's corner.
Polls in Wisconsin switching from +23% + to -8%, a change of 31% over a month.
Polls in Ohio showing Obama coming up fast.
Polls in Texas showing him within single digits, and rising.
Bill getting off the reservation again.
Her attacks on David Schuster backfiring.
Her attacks on Obama backfiring.
Her pantry and cupboard bare, with her top donors maxed out.

The trends are there. The future is pretty clear. When does reality strike home, and when will she withdraw to save her current office, reputation, and political future? Because, if she draws it out too long, in the face of overwhelming facts and trends, she will screw up her own future much like Bill has damaged his own legacy.


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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:10 AM
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1. March 5th
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:51 PM
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24. April 22nd. nt
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:12 AM
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2. Dreams die hard. I think she'll fight to the very end (whenever that is). n/t
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:14 AM
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3. When Obama gets 2025 delegates pledged to him. Convention rules, you know.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:15 AM
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4. I don't see her dropping out at all.
She's very bitter that she hasn't just been handed the nomination as she'd expected a cake-walk and she'll petulantly and bitterly stick it out to the end, no matter how much divisiveness it causes.

And Bill needs to sit down and STFU, every time he opens his mouth he hurts her further.

And frankly, why should she drop out? People in other states deserve their say as well, and who knows how she'll do in, say, TX, OH, etc. They really aren't all that far apart in delegates. It's not like Obama's McCain and she's Ron Paul. Although, by the time my primary rolls around, my vote for Obama won't make dipshit difference since my primary is the last in nation, in freaking June.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:16 AM
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5. She's in this until the nomination
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:24 AM
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6. If she's far behind in delegates, I would hope that someone could convince her
it's best for the party if she drops out this spring, instead of dragging it out. I would say the same for Obama if he was far behind. We won't know anything until after TX & OH - possibly even PA.

But, if their is a clear leader at that point, I think the other should drop out and let this party start to heal some pretty deep wounds. We're going to need that time before August rolls around to rally behind the nominee.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:29 AM
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11. Deep wounds is right.
In our own party...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:24 AM
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7. Other.
Your poll is flamebait.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:46 AM
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12. HOW?
facts = flamebait?

How the HELL can that be? Oh wait, to some of her supporters, since last year, a fact was something to be avoided, especially when it involved mistakes be her campaign.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:26 AM
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8. I see her sticking this out until the convention and then twisting the arms of the superdelegates
Just my $.02
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:27 AM
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9. The Clintons will try to steal the election.
I'm not a fan of either of these candidates but it's looking like Obama has the upper hand and we all know there is nothing The Clintons won't do to win. This is gonna get ugly.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:28 AM
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10. I think she'll stay in until the bitter end
I'm just afraid of how bitter that end might be.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:20 AM
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13. that will make it a very bitter end.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:22 AM
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14. Never...
I predict she will continue to campaign even during the General, and post Jan 20th.... just keep traveling round' the country...
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:28 AM
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15. March 5th. She bows out, to save what remaining dignity she might have.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:32 AM
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16. That would be my guess as well...
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 11:34 AM by RiverStone
I expect Hillary would put the party's interest over her self interest. A long drawn out battle that she would eventually lose would not be good - we need to shift focus to McLame ASAP.

If she loses either (OH or TX) it's 100% over - a narrow victory in both could drag it out longer, but I believe the math still would not be there. I think she'd need a 60%+ win in both states to remain viable.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:37 AM
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17. March 5th or shortly thereafter
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:55 AM
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18. She will fight it out to the end! There are to many of us depending
on her. She will never stop before the band stops playing.

CNN has the BEST MAP on the state results. Last night on AC360, second hour, John King put all the states left to vote in Obama's column and guess what? Unless, his margins are EXCEEDINGLY high, both candidates will likely be in a tie when all is said and done.

Super Delegate time, here we come, unless one of the dem candidates start taking HUGH margins, in all MOST ALL states that are left!

Obama does not have in in the basket and probably won't when all is said and done!!


Did anyone else see this??????? He showed the map again this morning on some CNN show.

Cheer up Hillary people! O has nothing on her!!!!!!

He showed the same map of poor Huckster against McCain...that was not such a pleasant sight.

GOMAMA!!!! You are are gal!!!!!!! Please donate now at: Hillary.com
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:56 AM
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19. if Obama wins Texas and Ohio and she DOESN'T drop out, it will become quite painful to watch
something like a slug crawling over salt. It will just be icky.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:04 PM
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21. You really think Obama is going to win Texas and Ohio?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:07 PM
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22. after what I've seen the past two weeks, I wouldn't put anything past him
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:19 PM
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25. closing in with one, win the other.
and that will be about as brutal to her as Florida was to 9ui11iani
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:59 AM
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20. If she loses TX or OH after March 4th, she may not have any choice...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:27 PM
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23. I LOVE that dog.
my monster is 170 lbs, and still wants a place on my lap.
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