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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:19 PM
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Clinton says she can hear Barbara Jordan and Ann Richards telling her: "You keep going!"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/clinton-hears-v.html

ABC News' Eloise Harper and Kate Snow Report: In McAllen, Texas this morning Senator Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., said she wasn’t giving up on her race for the White House.

Speaking about her work in South Texas as an organizer for George McGovern’s 1972 presidential campaign, Clinton said two strong Texas women inspired her -- Congresswoman Barbara Jordan and Texas Governor Ann Richards.

Clinton said they taught her about courage and determination. Then she suggested that she is hearing from them even as her campaign struggles to compete after a string of losses.

"I can hear their voices saying, 'You keep going! You give the people a real choice about the future!'" she said at a campaign event.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:20 PM
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1. I wonder if she can also hear Molly's voice. nt
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:25 PM
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7. good one. nt
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:27 PM
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9. Molly wasn't a public servant. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:28 PM
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10. That's debatable. The public loved her, but she wasn't elected. Point taken. nt
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:35 PM
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19. And, what would Molly say about Obama had she lived to tell?
The ABC meme is boorish and many may just become ABO because of it.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:21 PM
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2. She hears voices?
Not sure if that's the greatest strategy... :scared:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:44 PM
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24. Clinton Channeled Eleanor Roosevelt & Had Conversations With Her
June 24, 1996
Web posted at: 12:10 a.m. EDT


NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- The woman described by Bob Woodward as a spiritual adviser to first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton disputed several of Woodward's published assertions Sunday night .

Jean Houston, interviewed at the Newark Airport by CNN, said that Mrs. Clinton did indeed have imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt at Houston's suggestion. (153K AIFF or WAV sound)

"(But) that was maybe four minutes out of hours and hours of conversation," she said.


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Mrs. Clinton wrote about her imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt in her June 10 syndicated column. She said she talked to Roosevelt about the role of a first lady.

"She usually responds by telling me to buck up, or at least to grow skin as thick as a rhinoceros," Mrs. Clinton wrote.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:22 PM
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3. Damn straight. nt
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:23 PM
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4. Hillary hears voices
I can see that one going over well in the press. :eyes:
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:29 PM
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13. Right.
Didn't she get into hot water when she mentioned she talked to Eleanor Roosevelt's ghost for advice?

Why is she doing that again?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:32 PM
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16. How many jingoistic symbols can Barack Obama cram into a photo?
Are you sure Rove isn't working for him behind the scenes?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:43 PM
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23. If pictures of Abe Lincoln and MLK are jingoistic...
...I don't want to be an iconoclast.

This looks to be his Senate office, so the flag is kinda, you know, necessary. The big one, I mean--the other one looks like it was drawn by school children.

I doubt his home office looks like that, for what it's worth.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:23 PM
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35. The flag is necessary, I agree.
It's the sensitive placement of everything just so for the photo. People can look at a photo and pick up a lot in just one image. That's one reason this image appeals to you, because you believe it's portraying obama in a light that you want others to see him as you do.

Iconoclasm is good, if directed at outdated institutions. I do not advocate anarchy, and I used to fly the flag, every day, until the right wing appropriated the symbolism.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:24 PM
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5. Why not? Bush talks to god...
Sorry, I dont believe in ghost's or god.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:24 PM
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6. She's a fighter, and a champion of women!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:51 PM
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29. As president, she's supposed to be a champion of EVERYBODY..
not just women. No wonder she plays poorly with men.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:26 PM
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8. so pathetic to ridicule this. We all have our heroes.
The put downs of this woman are amazingly trite.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:29 PM
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11. I think what is being put down is the fact that Hillary is claiming
posthumous endorsements.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:50 PM
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28. or inspiration...
I have heard similar sentiments from women of a certain age (glass cieling breakers) when in challenging positions - that they feel the weight of those who broke down barriers before them and that they need to go forward both for those who came before and those who will follow - I have heard this expressed as hearing voices (not in the psychotic way) or feeling the presence - never said literally but always figuratively. I think this is the same thing. Were I advising her, I would suggest she start considering at what point does when walk away from the race and then live by that (or surpass that line and thus know to keep going) - but I am not her advisor. Just trying to put the context in a different light (how I read it).
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:08 PM
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32. No Doubt That Is How She Meant It
But wasn't it clumsy of her to put it the way she did. No to mention less eloquent.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:12 PM
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33. it does sound rather clumsy
as a major candidate one doesn't want to sound like one "hear's voices" ;-)
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:30 PM
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14. Whatever gets her detractors through the night.
I am getting a real clear picture of what many "modern" American males are made of. So much for renaissance, eh?

This is the same derision leveled at Edwards about the young girl "talking" to him, when he pled the case for her parents in court. It's very shallow and mean-spirited to mock people who speak figuratively and pretend it's a literal "hearing." Jeezus.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:34 PM
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18. Does this surprise you from the ABC crowd?
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:29 PM
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12. So, now she is seeking the schizo vote
Interesting strategy.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:31 PM
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15. No, that's Bill disguising his voice in her head.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:33 PM
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17. I hear dead people
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:40 PM
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20. Is she channeling spirits again?
Didn't she say something like this about Eleanor Roosevelt back in the nineties?
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:42 PM
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21. interesting...thanks for posting
I was watching Hillary last night in Texas and my first thought was that Ann Richards, if alive, could have helped her win the state overwhelmingly. And she would have been able to land a few punches on Obama without looking as vicious as most of her surrogates have.

I'm not a Hillary supporter but I would have loved seeing Gov. Ann barnstorm the state with her. Her loss is going to be keenly felt for Hillary on March 4th.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:43 PM
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22. Would Jordan have supported the Defense of Marriage Act? nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:47 PM
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25. It isn't cool to claim the support of the dead, who are unable to say who they support
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:48 PM
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26. Does she hear Rudy too?
Wait for Ohio.... Wait for Texas...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 12:49 PM
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27. Did she get misty? It seems to me that her pandering to women is not
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 12:50 PM by Kahuna
working like it used to. I'm officially embarrassed for her now.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:04 PM
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30. Hillary, you are no Barbara and no Ann.
If they were alive, they wouldn't be backing Hillary. Bet on it.

She's exactly the kind of sell out both despised.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:04 PM
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31. Remember Channeling Eleanor Roosevelt
...in those White House seances during the Bill-ministration?

Or whatever the heck those weird stories were about.

What a shameless panderer Mrs Clinton is.


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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:14 PM
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34. hearing voices from the past
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:36 PM
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36. It's amazing
No matter how many Odroids I put on Ignore, there are always more bubbling up from the sewers.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:39 PM
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37. Everyone here know Ann Richards endorsed Lee Mercer, Jr.
:eyes:
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:51 PM
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38. And one day when another female decides to run for the Presidency
and knows how unfairly she will be treated by the press and the "men" she will have as her guide not just Barbara and Anne and Eleanor but Hillary as well.
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