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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:26 PM Original message |
Joe Wilson: Hillary Clinton is Battle Tested |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. easy to forget the facts when one is caught up in The Speech |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. My concerns exactly..... |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. She's battle tested alright - battles from the scandals she created herself |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
75. I fully concur |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. I like Joe Wilson... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I hope you read the whole article, I agreed |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. If you read the whole article, then you know that the article does not |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. One of the comments was telling, you should read through them.... |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Is Wilson being deceptive or just ignorant when he accuses Obama |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Sweet Whispers that we are unaware of may be Joe Wilson's hidden impetus ... for covert agenda. |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. does it help to be battle tested if you won't win? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. I like Joe Wilson... but he needs to stay out of this. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Why? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Why should he "stay out of this?" |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. Kerry and tired ass Ted Kennedy should bow out as well. (eom) |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. why so?? |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. So glad to see this again |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yeah, Joe Wilson knows every "damn" thing. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Obama supporter and DU-er extraordinaire H20 seems to think so |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Joe's being ripped apart now....lol.... |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. yeah, pretty predictable at this point, no? |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I like your attitude :) |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. That's how the story goes.... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Many of Wes Clark's former "supporters" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'll say. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Avoiding the topic ? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Not the whole thing. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. Rolling over for Karl Rove repeatedly is not a "battle" |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Unlike Obama's ? |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wilson makes good pts, but loses his credibility by saying the AUMF wasn't a vote for war. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. He was spot on about Obama's anti-war speech..... |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
23. This is Hillary's first battle. I'd say Obama is doing better than her. nt |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. A moot point if she can't get past Barack. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
27. Great post |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
29. Part of the reason I switched to Obama |
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publicatlarge (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Discuss the high points of your 'informed choice' |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. ageism...that's funny |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Yes, it seems as if us lowly "unwashed masses" are not considered as intelligent as HRC's |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. I think he means she is an old battle ax. n/t |
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publicatlarge (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. See what I am referring to?.......eom |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. No, unless you agree that an old battle ax is, by definition, battle tested. n/t |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. battle ax is a slur. |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. But it is Wilson who implied that she is an old battle ax. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Where? He called her a seasoned gladiator. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Wow! Maybe HRC will ooze testosterone and swagger like that old Tory "War Horse" Maggie Thatcher? |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Margaret Thatcher was an old battle ax if ever there was one. n/t |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Would Mrs. Obama like being called a "battle ax" ? |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I don't speak for her, but she does come across as very classy. n/t |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. But you speak for Margaret Thatcher and Hillary Clinton ? |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Why would anyone here defend Margaret Thatcher? |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Hence an old battle ax, but Wilson didn't call her a gladiator... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Obviously you didn't read the article, here's the last part |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. "we do not need a would-be philosopher-king but a seasoned gladiator " doesn't call HRC a gladiatrix |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. "who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
52. another sexist comment regard Sen. Clinton! |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. If the shoe fits, wear it! n/t |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
34. Read the comments-OUCH! |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. read #32 - OUCH for you |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. IMO, not any MORE distasteful as one of HRC's adorers: Obama would wear a black sheet for the KKK. |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. You would have loved my argument for Rosalynn Carter for President. |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. if HIllary's battle tested, she sure as hell didn't learn anything... |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Well, at least she didn't "stay the course" like some commanders we know.... |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
45. Thanks for posting. |
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moosen (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. Save this article for the day after the General Election |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
60. Okay so why is her campaign in such disarray? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. Keep in mind Joe Wilson supported Bush in 2000 |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. So? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
67. Define the battle, Joe |
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dcindian (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
68. battle tested my ass |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Whoa, nasty stuff. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
71. Hillary is a chicken hawk! |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hillary could have *led* the opposition to this war, but she was running for President |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Obama could have *led* too ? |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
74. Poor Joe Wilson... look at this thread. He'll be proven right, once again. nt |
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