Press says Obama voted on FISA - roll call begs to differ

[robbedvoter]

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00020

Not Voting - 3
Clinton (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Obama (D-IL)

[robbedvoter]

1. linking the "moral claim" thread to this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4555269&mesg_id=4555269

[BlackVelvet04]

2. I noticed that discrepancy yesterday. n/t

[robbedvoter]

5. Someone posted a thread - without a link - and was quickly dismissed with an AP

article saying McCain and Obama were there. I looked for that thread.
Interesting how the MSM, once again, makes shit up for its favorite boys.

[rateyes]

3. Roll call must have gotten in wrong, because I was

watching C-SPAN, saw Obama on the floor of the Senate, and listened to the Clerk read the names on the vote for that particular information. Obama voted against telecom immunity and the FISA bill.

[TwilightGardener]

4. Does anybody on DU know the fucking difference between amendments and bills, between cloture

and final passage? Holy shit, what morans. Obama voted on the KEY votes--yes on the Dodd amendment on immunity, no to cloture (on the final bill). Once past cloture, it sailed to an expected victory. Give it a REST!!

[mindfulNJ]

6. stop confusing us

with facts.;-)

[robbedvoter]

7. THIS is the final vote - THIS was the key vote. It's why I looked for the roll call

and was surprised.
"I wasn't aware that I didn't vote"
Google for Dodd gave me this from january 24 - also no vote from Obama:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00002
Not Voting - 4
Clinton (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)

[TwilightGardener]

8. Uh, no. It was expected to pass. He showed up and voted for as long as he could--was there

for hours. Miss Hillary couldn't be bothered, at all, on any vote, any amendment, nor on the final bill. At some point you have to just swallow that fact--score one for Obama.

[DURHAM D]

9. Since he could not vote Present - he apparently hid behind a post.

I refer to that as "Post" voting - equivalent on the federal level to "Present" voting in Illinois.

[jmg257]

10. Sheesh, such BS yet again.. Feb 12th 2008, Obama votes, Clinton doesn't

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture Re. S. 2248 )
Vote Number: 19 Vote Date: February 12, 2008, 12:18 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Agreed to
Measure Number: S. 2248 (FISA Amendments Act of 2007 )
Measure Title: An original bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, to modernize and streamline the provisions of that Act, and for other purposes.
Vote Counts: YEAs 69 NAYs 29 Not Voting 2
Alphabetical by Senator Name

Akaka (D-HI), Nay
...
Clinton (D-NY), Not Voting
...
Obama (D-IL), Nay

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U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Feinstein Amdt. No. 3919 )
Vote Number: 18 Vote Date: February 12, 2008, 12:01 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3919 to S.Amdt. 3911 to S. 2248 (FISA Amendments Act of 2007)
Statement of Purpose: To provide for the review of certifications by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
Vote Counts: YEAs 41 NAYs 57 Not Voting 2
Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
...
Clinton (D-NY), Not Voting
...
Obama (D-IL), Yea

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U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Specter Amdt. No. 3927 )
Vote Number: 17 Vote Date: February 12, 2008, 11:44 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3927 to S.Amdt. 3911 to S. 2248 (FISA Amendments Act of 2007)
Statement of Purpose: To provide for the substitution of the United States in certain civil actions.
Vote Counts: YEAs 30 NAYs 68 Not Voting 2
Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Yea
...
Clinton (D-NY), Not Voting
...
Obama (D-IL), Yea

******************************

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Feingold Amdt. No. 3912 )
Vote Number: 16 Vote Date: February 12, 2008, 11:22 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3912 to S.Amdt. 3911 to S. 2248 (FISA Amendments Act of 2007)
Statement of Purpose: To modify the requirements for certifications made prior to the initiation of certain acquisitions.
Vote Counts: YEAs 37 NAYs 60 Not Voting 3
Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
...
Clinton (D-NY), Not Voting
...
Obama (D-IL), Yea

******************************************

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Dodd Amdt. No. 3907 )
Vote Number: 15 Vote Date: February 12, 2008, 11:03 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3907 to S.Amdt. 3911 to S. 2248 (FISA Amendments Act of 2007)
Statement of Purpose: To strike the provisions providing immunity from civil liability to electronic communication service providers for certain assistance provided to the Government.
Vote Counts: YEAs 31 NAYs 67 Not Voting 2
Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
...
Clinton (D-NY), Not Voting
...
Obama (D-IL), Yea


etc. etc. etc.

[Windy]

11. Thank you!!! God the garbage that HRC people have been posting today...

[usregimechange]

12. He voted to amend FISA directly before this