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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:06 PM
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Obama mania will have to win the hard way
I saw thread after thread from Obama fans begging for Hillary to withdraw from the race. Sorry, but Obama will have to win (if he can) the old fashioned way, by earning it.

Not everyone has bought into the Obama hype, not yet anyway. Hillary least of all, she is like an Amazon warrior, tough and battle hardened, not giving up until the last drop of blood.

So to all of Obama mania, deal with it, you will have to win the hard way, no one is going to hand you the nomination, no matter how many times you plead for it.

:patriot:
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:07 PM
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1. And like all Amazons, she let her husband go first. nt
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 02:08 PM by Bicoastal
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:17 PM
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16. ROTFL!
:rofl:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:55 PM
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29. Sorry....hard as I tried I couldn't contain a chuckle. :)
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:08 PM
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2. why do you hate hope and change
why do you hate america....why do you hate puppies:evilgrin:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:09 PM
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7. lol
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:08 PM
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3. He IS winning the old fashioned way.
Hillary is the one who is kicking and screaming because it wasn't handed to her as she expected. She will try to seat delegates from Michigan and Florida to cheat and will go negative in one last attempt to win. Obama can handle it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:09 PM
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4. Begging?
Looked to me like a friendly warning. Like having broccoli in your teeth, or having your fly down.

You know, to avoid embarassment.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:09 PM
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5. Let's see, who invested in ALL 50 States and who relied on inevitability. Your post is ironic.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:09 PM
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6. I agree with you, and I'm an Obama supporter...
Some of my compatriots need to chill the f out, seriously.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:12 PM
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12. you are right
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:09 PM
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8. I'm not calling for her to withdraw
not yet...too premature for that. But if he gets enough delegates that he'd go into the convention with a clear lead and it's unlikely the superdelegates would throw it her way (which I doubt they would, if Obama has a big enough lead for it to be a clear usurpation of the voters), then she should quit. I don't want to see her drag it out to the convention just to make it harder for Obama in the general (so that she'd get another chance in 4 years). I'm not accusing her of that or anything, so please don't flame. I just think that if it's clear she can't get the nomination without superdelegates clearly overturning the voters, she should step aside. If Obama can get a big enough lead in the delegates that Michigan and Florida wouldn't change the outcome, then I really see no point in her taking this to the convention. But I doubt he'll be able to pull away that much.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:10 PM
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9. I've kinda been avoiding
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 02:10 PM by gaspee
GD and GDP because it's tiring to see all of the attacks. Imagine my surprise when according to the paper today, Obama was ahead by @50 delegates.

From the headlines on the greatest page, I thought Obama was running away with this thing.

Imagine my surprise. Also, the popular vote is almost neck and neck. I don't understand why the Obama supporters keep demanding Clinton drop out.

Don't their votes count? Doesn't the will of HALF the party not count?

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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:15 PM
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13. obama supporters
are demanding that clinton drop out because it's easier to win if the other side gives up.
imho it's obamas to lose....but i think he can still lose it....if hillary starts to land some good punches he could find himself watching from the sidelines in nov
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:17 PM
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17. you make good points
and Hillarys votes do count and should count as much as Obamas.
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darknemus Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:11 PM
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10. Easy way OR Hard way.. its Obama's to lose right now.
If Hillary wants to drag out the inevitable and have a lot more sleepless nights, so be it. Doesn't look like this is going to be 'her time' this time. Oh well. I prefer Obama, myself - but even if I didn't, I'd be a realist when looking at the situation.

The inertia is obvious - I wish her all the luck in the world to try to curtail it.. but so far, that's not working out too well for her. Que Sera Sera.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:11 PM
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11. Amazon... warrior..? I'm SO glad I was sitting down for that !
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:16 PM
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15. I see her as the Energizer bunny - no, she's not a confrontational type n/t
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:18 PM
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18. I liked it
I can imagine Hillary dressed up in that Zena type gear.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:15 PM
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14. why should she concede? Obama wouldn't do that-nobody
should except: Suckabee (although he adds entertainment value)
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:21 PM
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22. Conceding for the sake of the Keeping the Party United
it would benefit the country for her to concede after those primaries of March 4th (asusming results aren't favorable -- meaning: high margins of victory, not just wins) because the longer she is in the longer and harder it makes it for super delegates and the more importantly the harder it makes it for the country which could potentially divide the democratic party sizeably and make everyone lose this year to what i see, an easy opponent that is McCain.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:19 PM
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19. Nah, it ain't over til somebody's lying in a pool of metaphorical blood.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:19 PM
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20. EITHER ONE will have to win it the "hard way."
You can't see a few posts on a site like this and extrapolate to the millions of Obama supporters.
Sure, this race is far from "over". And BOTH will have to continue to campaign hard. I will say this though, if Hillary continues to lose the rest of the February contexts and Obama's momentum continues to rise, she may not be able to recover. Yes, Texas and Ohio will be the most telling. So we'll just have to see. No matter what happens, once it's decided we need to close ranks and go after the Republicans.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:19 PM
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21. Obamamania
Obamamania is sort of like communism; it needs to spread rapidly while there's still lots of excitement, before people start questionidng the lack of specific policies.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:26 PM
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23. Take yoru right wing divisivness to freeper land
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:27 PM
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24. the media has FINALLY stated Obama probably isn't experienced enough
and that McCain will have an excellent argument should they be the nominees... that Obama is not ready to tackle the serious nature of the National Security issue... that should there be a terrorist threat... and we know there will be if the republicans have to produce it for themselves... that McCain will basically dig a huge hole into Obama's charm/hope/dream strategy... by saying... do you really trust this guy with your life and your safety...

and let's get real... Obama's support in the polls for caucuses and primaries does not mean they will vote for him in the generals... gotta be drinking the kool-aid to believe that!

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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:42 PM
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26. here goes the media
now that it's lookin like it may easily be obama...his little friends in the media are gonna turn on him and fuck him till his eyes bug out.....jmo but he's not ready for this yet....and if he has to run against mccain expect the media to underline this point at every available opportunity
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:29 PM
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25. Obama is a cult figure
But the OP can write the following without a hint of irony:

Hillary...is like an Amazon warrior, tough and battle hardened, not giving up until the last drop of blood.

I mean, seriously. People who write stuff like that can't accuse anybody else of being involved in a cult of personality.

:rofl:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:43 PM
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27. You call this hard? Your girl is folding like a cheap tent.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:54 PM
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28. No longer inevitable Hillary campaign vs. hard working Obama campaign
I can live with that.

To quote Obama: "We know our road will not be easy."

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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 04:33 PM
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30. It's all about Obama and his needs, as usual
Are Obama supporters so afraid of TX & OH that you don't want to put Obama through that? Or, God forbid,
that Hillary will pick up enough delegates to pass him in the future? :o:

The reason for intensified primary schedule was so that more voters in more states would have a say in the nominee. I was thrilled to have that say yesterday in MD. Now you (some Obama supporters) want to say to those voters "Nope. Let's anoint Obama."

Not, of course, that Hillary will listen to anyone on DU calling for her to quit, nor should she.

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