Obama won more votes in all 3 contests last night than Clinton and McCain COMBINED.

[tekisui]

I don't know if this has been posted. Obama's wins were big last night, winning the popular vote over Clinton and McCain combined in each of the three states. In DC, he received more than twice their combined total.

Go, Obama!

[MADem]

1. And NO ONE smells a little GOP nefariousness in that ... at all!!!!

It's just...a MIRACLE!!!!!

:eyes:

[tekisui]

3. What GOP Nefariousness?

Are you suggesting that pukes joined the Democrats to vote FOR Obama?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. i detect the Penn-manship of desperation in that allegation.

what is most likely, if there were cross overs, is that Obama's message resonates among indies and moderates, as well as liberals, meaning that the GE looks one HELL of a lot better for us.

[MADem]

9. PUT up or shut up. You can't get away with calling me an operative

without evidence. And you have none, because I am NOT one.

You, on the other hand, are a DISRUPTOR of discourse.

Any time anyone doesn't agree with YOU, you accuse them of nefariousness.

And that says something very SIGNIFICANT about YOU--and what it says isn't very flattering to you as a person.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. wow.

ouch. the keyboard stings me fingers.

I am NOT accusing you of anything. I would never accuse you. Even when we disagree, I enjoy your posts too much.

Penn is quite good enough to get a message across without using operatives. A hint here, another there, that sort of stuff. And people, especially supporters easily pick up on those hints and suggestions, even without realizing it.

I have not even used that word here, much less accused anyone who disagrees with me of acting that way. For one thing, big words make my fingers get tired. Secondly, spelling nefariousness has never been a strength with me. As much as I read, it simply doesn't come up often.

[MADem]

17. "Penn-manship?"

You're asserting that I'm carrying Penn's water, that I lack an opinion of my own.

I find that offensive. I haven't communicated with the guy or read any campaign 'touts.'

I think for myself, thanks anyway.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

19. sorry, madem, that is my short-handed way of

being unhappy and displaying that unhappiness about some of the top staffers fouling up that campaign. His CV reminds me of mine in my early days, when I took pleasure of successfully representing corpserations, under impossible odds, and winning. After a time, I got better, though. Penn has not.

[Debi]

5. I think around 8% did

Who knows that 8% may be voting D in the general as well.

[tekisui]

7. I don't think that the 8% were organized to "sabotage" the Democratic Primary

by helping us chose the strongest candidate.

[Debi]

10. They weren't - I can't read the posters comment b/c they asked me to put them on Ignore

So I was just responding to you - I heard on MSNBC/CNN that 8% were cross-overs. We had crossovers here in Iowa too - at my caucus most R's went for Richardson or Edwards :shrug: I don' think this is about sabotage, I think it's about fed up moderate republicans who would rather see a united United States than four more years of partisan bullshit. :hi:

[MADem]

6. No, I am not "suggesting" it, I am saying it. It's a common practice in open primaries.

The people who already have a candidate--and the GOP do, it's gonna be McCain--will vote for the weaker of the opposition candidates.

I can't believe how many people here think this is somehow "impossible"--it's quite common.

[tekisui]

8. The 8% that were Indys or Dems, even going to Clinton, wouldn't have given a win.

[MADem]

11. In VA, the eight were GOP. The total was thirty percent.

The remainder being indys. Now, certainly not all those indys were right leaning.

We'll see what happens come November. All I can tell you is that this is VERY common practice when one side has their candidate all sewn up--you cross over to "screw" the opposition.

All it will take is some revitalization of the "Terra, Terra, Terra!" theme--a car bomb in DC, a pipe bomb in NY, a suicide bomber pretty much anywhere, and you can say HELLOOOOOOO! to President McCain.

[tekisui]

12. Certainly, McLame would exploit any terra.

He has tied himself tightly to what happens in Iraq. The violence is increasing, and the Parliament is nearing dissolution.

Any new terra! will only serve to remind the country that pukes *cannot* keep us safe. Their warronterra is a failure, as is the Illegal Occupation of Iraq.

[MADem]

14. Act Two of that scenario is this--

Vice President McCain (who takes over in June because Cheney gets sick) meets with the JCS and they develop a plan to track down those 'terrists' and bring 'em to justice.

They rustle up a few likely looking suspects, cook up a good story, and the media covers it, glowingly, twenty four - seven.

McCain is strong, any opponent is a wuss. That's how the GE-MSGOP media will play it.

John Kerry led Bush in the polls, too. Remember how that played out?

[tekisui]

15. I'd put nothing past them.

[stahbrett]

13. Obama got ~60% of the vote of Democrats (eom)

[caledesi]

2. Fired up! Ready to go! nt

[ShortnFiery]

18. Interesting Statistic.

Thank-you.

Go Obama! :patriot: