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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:33 PM
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Larry Johnson dives into pool, hits head on bottom, swims to surface, acts like insane hate monger.
I used to read Larry's blog quite often, I put it on my D-Kos blogroll. But today Larry posted a insane tirade @ D-Kos that is just flat out rude, hateful, and desperate.



How do Hillary and Obama handle foreign contributions?

Hillary requires every contribution from overseas to be made as a check and must be accompanied by a copy of the passport or green card that corresponds to the name on the check. This part of her fundraising is kept separate from that raised within the borders of the United. States

Obama, does not segregate his foreign money and has no controls in place to verify that the contributors are in fact legally entitled to contribute to his campaign.


The first thing that came to mind was where are the Clinton tax returns, otherwise this is just heavy duty LC Johnson spin. Stay tuned for the nasty crap ahead.

My neighbor, who is a prominent Republican lobbyist, was commenting the other day on the inspiring nature of the Obama campaign......When he heard the true story of Obama's past (including Obama's Kenyan ties and muslim relatives). He flipped


Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence Larry.

The Obama cult is a phenomenom. A weird phenomenom. People are enthralled with the idea of Obama and know nothing about his past, his performance, and the scandals that will bring him down.


Hey Larry, how do you feel about the Cult of Martin Luther King, or Gandhi, or even the cult of the Greatful Dead ??? Christ Larry stick to your Forte, Intell.


In the meantime, we have to watch the equivalent of a papal coronation, as the media and fans exhult in the Obama Messiah, the black Jesus come to save us. But sometime in the next four months, the excitement will fade as the reality of who Obama is comes out.


Obama Messiah, the black Jesus ? Larry, you got issues dude. But folks, it gets worse at the end:

What we have, ladies and gents, is another Establishment Man. Easily manipulated by the father figures he desperately seeks and gratified by the adulation of the masses, he is buying into his "man of destiny" nonsense. Many in the public are seized with this religious, worshipful madness. Unfortunately, Obama, conquering hero is riding in the parade and soaked in the praise of frenetic crowds. He has received very little pushback so far. But it will come. And Obama would be wise to heed the following advice:

For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. The conqueror rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. And a slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting."



SO Larry is saying Obama is searching for a father figure in his life, and his decisions will be influenced by this deficiency. Just what sort of message does the Roman story portend, we all know what happened to a certain Roman Emperor.... is that what Larry is aluding to ?


I think Larry Johnson needs to stick to what he knows, intell. Larry, take a chill pill and a timeout. Otherwise STFU.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:35 PM
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1. Sounds more like Bill Clinton looking for a father figure in Poppy Bush. nt
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:40 PM
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2. he he he , ! ! !
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:41 PM
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3. seems to me Larry is doing what he was trained to do..assess people ..see what their weaknesses are
and to see if they are trustworthy ..and if they can stand up to the moment..i believe what Larry is telling us is eye opening..

and i believe it is intel..he is doing what he was trained to do..

it just seems to me those supporting Obama are muvch like the *bots ..and sheeple..ready to take the walk down the plank for the kool aide.

that is frightening to me..seriously frightening!!


have you done any research on Obama ..i sure have and he scares the shit out of me..his views scare me.
fly
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:45 PM
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8. "his views scare me"
Which ones?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:46 PM
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10. Look his comments make him sound like a raving lunatic.
He has issues and frankly so do you if you condone that type of behavior.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:48 PM
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14. Larry Johnson has been lying about Obama for a while.
And yes, inquiring minds would like to know what "scares you" about Obama. Was helping poor people on the South Side of Chicago a sign of him being a fifth column?

:sarcasm:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:52 PM
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21. Unfortunatly Larry provides scarce substantiation
And the Tenor of the diary is that of a hit piece, not a diary with substantive issues, (with links). Its an OP-Ed, nothing more.

Gimme the damn scoop on Obama, now, please. I'll read it.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:15 PM
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35. "have you done any research on Obama ..i sure have and he scares the shit out of me.."
OK, which ones?

Iran ?

Nuclear power ?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:00 PM
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43. Help a brother out, what is it that scares you, I'm listening
Other wise I have to chalk up your comment as hit & run.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:42 PM
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4. He has JUMPED the shark!!This is why you don't hear him on progressive talk anymore.
His posts on his website are absolutely vile.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:43 PM
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5. Yet Dems don't ask why the republican MSM is praising Obama...The same media
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 05:45 PM by GreenTea
that's trashed every Democrat from Carter to Clinton to Gore to Kerry to Edwards & Hillary and we're the stupid ones who don't believe it's because the republican owned corporate media just loves this particular Democrat, Obama?

Get fucking real! Who's the simplistic stupid ones who just can't get enough television coverage of their boy, these people are eating it up and NEVER asking why? ...un-fucking believable!

So many dems are so eager to believe any crumb tossed to them.


It's ironic (not to say bizarre) that Barack Obama strikes so many people as
"progressive." First of all, because he's simply not progressive; and, secondly,
because the press has so far treated him much as it treated Ronald Reagan
back in 1980 (and, by and large, forever after): i.e., apolitically, uncritically,
with lots of emphasis on his success as a "communicator" and almost nothing
on his actual positions, or the interests back of him.

If the media knocked off the Reagan treatment of Obama, more of us might
have a clearer sense of where he's really coming from. That he (too) belongs to
Wall Street, and is in the pocket of a nuclear power company called Exelon
(and lies about it), and has named Zbigniew Brzezinski as his top foreign policy
adviser, and stumped for Lieberman, are just a few examples of his true character,
politically speaking. If this sort of thing got proper coverage, we would all be
better off.

It is, of course, a great thing that Obama has inspired so many people to get into
politics. Those people should, however, know exactly who it is they're fighting
for, and what "change" he is likely to create.

MCM

Dems will believe every republican poll, news item anything as long as it praises Obama....Watch the finger pointing....they fall for this shit every single time but always believe this time is different, the republicans three steps ahead of them and the morons REFUSE to believe it, they'll hate you and call you names for even suggesting the obvious....ONLY what television puts in their faces and what they want to hear is real enough for them!!
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:44 PM
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7. Look, the repubs are scared to death that he will win the nom.
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 05:52 PM by Windy
They can't get any dirt on him that will stick (because their is none or it would have been used by the Clinton campaign already) and they (the repubs) were geared up for Hillary.
They also know that Hillary will solidify the republican base and get them to come out in record numbers in the general.

My god. Do you pay attention at all?
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:51 PM
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20. Republicans want him soooo bad they can taste it....that's why the republicans
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 05:56 PM by GreenTea
even on Fox news are prasing him day after day, why?....the republicans are setting you up again with this Obama blitz...but you won't look at it from any other perspective, only from what you want to see...

We live in an ultra-racist country my friend....Obama is getting a tiny minute fraction of the registered voters....

KANSAS; Has 1,561,341 registered voters, Obama won with a total of 27,172 votes hardly the picture of what the general election will be like.

NEBRASKA: Has 1,232,741 registered voters, Obama received 22,343 total vote, again not a great picture of what the general election will bring.

It's the same with every state, look it up.

If Obama is the nominee and who the republicans want, the republicans will have no fear smearing a black person if Obama is the nominee, they are just hoping...they've done it many times and will certainly do it again with their powerful spin, smear and distortion media machine....little racist stories will pop up out of nowhere...lies will spring up immediately, swift-boating, attacking ones character over & over, and the big one, labeling any dem as a flip-flopper whether it's true or not....You underestimate the greed and sickness of these fascist republicans who desperately need to hold power and they will.....with a lot of help from their voting machines as well, which over 80% of the country vote with, thanks to the republican written Help America Vote Act (HAVA) in 2002.

Yes indeed, the republicans and their owned corporate media is just sitting and waiting for Obama, until he is the nominee....Just look at what the same republican media did to John Edwards, (and Dennis Kucinich).

Republicans are drooling at the thought of an African-American as the dem nominee....they will continue to praise and praise until he's the nominee....But you like most will never see past the bullshit polls, television and the republican owned media.

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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:55 PM
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24. a tiny fraction of the registered vote? As exemplifed by what?
the record number of voters and the high number of white voters who turned out to vote for him in Neb., Iowa, Idaho, Utah, Mn., Illinois, Virginia, colorado, CT, KS, ND, MD, etc?

I have republican inlaws who are voting OBAMA. The exit polls have shown that repubs are crossing over and he is getting the independent vote.


Your spin your trying to peddle is just that...spin.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:06 PM
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31. What are you talking about I just gave you two examples....KS & Neb you want more
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 06:09 PM by GreenTea
CO - 2,258,000 registered voters Obama got 79,344 vote in CO

Virginia - 3,663,000 registered voters Obama got 674,352 votes in Virginia

MN - 3,282,000 registered voters Obama received 147, 527 votes

It's same in every state....


In the general election when everyone can vote for whom they choose....the republican attack machine so sickening and smearing and distorting and racist....There is no doubt in this very racist country that the republicans would rather face an African American than a woman....Just listen to Limbaugh whom all progressive hate. Look how many Dems didn't vote, all the republicans and many moderates will vote republican instead....I know many democrats and more than surprisingly, I hear it all the time have deep racism and won't vote for an African American, sickeningly so.... And if the republicans are successful in labeling the ultra-right-wing ideologue Bush ass-kisser McCain, as a moderate (like they did Bush) then many Dems will vote for McCain as an excuse once the republican media machine goes into action.




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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:08 PM
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32. Most of those states are red, and will remain so. Irrelevant. nt
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:58 PM
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27. If Obama keeps rising to the occasion (which he has been doing),
then he will win this thing. The Republicans kind of know this is an off year, they're exhausted, and out of ideas. Hell, they can't even rally around McCain. I don't see any conspiracy there -- psychology OR reverse psychology.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:13 PM
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33. You're right comparing primary turnout to potential GE turnout is a
poor comparison.

So would it be fair to compare Primary turnout to previous primary turnout ?
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:05 PM
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30. i call bullshit
the repubs are not afraid of obama...and they didn't have dirt on gore or kerry either...so they made some up....and yes it did stick.....and in the end the repub base...largely made up of deep southerners
will turn out to vote against obama.....mccain is seen by those people as a westerner...they think he's a bit too liberal....so you think they'll switch to obama....yes i pay attention....but i try to see everything on the game board....not just what i want to see
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:33 PM
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41. Ha, ha, and you're claiming these same voters will vote for Hillary?
In your dreams, baby.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:46 PM
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11. Great post -- you're right
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:52 PM
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22. The media doesn't know what to do with Obama.
They do air the negative stuff about him, then he gets tens of thousands to come see him, sets them on fire, and all the media can do is say, "Wow". Have you considered the fact that Obama attracts high ratings? Which kind of trumps everything.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:43 PM
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6. Sounds more like Bill and Poppy and Bill and Jackson Stephens.
Dubai royals ring a bell? The same Dubai royals who STARTED BCCI have been lining Bill's bank account by the tens of millions.

Gee - guess they're glad those outstanding matters of BCCI were deep-sixed throughout the 90s.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:50 PM
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18. Great minds think alike!!
:)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:31 PM
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40. Follow the money..what's in this
for larry johnson and his hatemongering from hilaryland?
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:45 PM
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9. Do you realize its his supporters....
... that make him look like a cult figure? The rabidness of them in pretty cult like in nature. Witness your own post. Johnson should shut the fuck up because he has an opinion different from yours?

If you want to kill the cult meme, already making the rounds of the pundits, and that is only going to get worse all of you should "take a chill pill and a timeout."

I think Obama will make a terrible president, so feel free to ignore my advice. But if you don't want him to look like a cult leader you all should stop acting like cult members.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:48 PM
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12. Could not just a small part of these sentiments be "envy" because HRC fails to inspire Americans?
:shrug:
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:49 PM
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16. Frankly, your judgment is in question.
If you support a candidate who could vote for War for political reasons and authorize Bush to send kids to die and get their limbs blown off so that she wouldn't look weak to the republicans in the general election that she though she had sewn up then I think you need to reexamine your priorities.

I believe that members of cults look past their leaders own faults and blindly follow. I believe that based upon the record, that is what many hillary supporters are doing.

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:48 PM
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13. I love the smell of desperation in the morning
You smell that? Do you smell that? Desperation, son. Nothing
else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of desperation
in the morning. You know, one time we had a primary, for
twelve months. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't
find one of 'em, not one wrapped up nomination. The smell, you know
that politics smell, the whole primary. Smelled like - defeat.

Someday this election is gonna end.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:50 PM
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17. Hillary has No Elvis!
;)
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:10 PM
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44. Isn't that kinda hairy, taking Charlie's point?
Charlie don't surf!
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:49 PM
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15. Good grief
Speaking as one who is sceptical of Obama, I feel fully qualified to say this is way over the top. Larry must have been deep into his cups (i.e. drunk on his ass) when he wrote this. Suddenly, I feel I know more about Larry's issues than I ever wanted to know ...
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:59 PM
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28. Yes, too much info
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:51 PM
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19. Oliver Willis on Larry Johnson -
(and I have respect for LC - he fought hard for the Wilsons)

http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/13/ods-watch-larry-johnson/

ODS Watch: Larry Johnson
By Oliver Willis on February 13, 2008 8:40 AM | Permalink | Comments (5) | TrackBacks (0)
Larry Johnson is among the more rabid anti-Obama/pro-Clinton bloggers out there. But his spin -- and it is spin -- on last night's primaries is both silly and insulting at the same time.


Okay. Then if he is the candidate of change fighting Washington, why did a majority of the Washington, DC and the government employees in the surrounding suburbs and those pesky lobbyists and their spouses and employees, vote for Barack? You see, I believe that people act in their own interest. So, when the folks who live inside the beltway, vote in large measure for Barack, then maybe he is not what he claims to be.

You got that? Voters in MD, DC, and VA don't count. Why? Because many of them work for the federal government. Because employees of our government apparently don't have worthy opinions, at least when they don't vote for Hillary Clinton. And this somehow makes Obama the "establishment" candidate.

Who was the inevitable candidate supported by the party bigwigs for almost a year again? In order to narrow it down, I'll give you a clue: it's not a man.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:55 PM
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25. among the more rabid
Yeah, I dont need no more stinking candidate diaries, both Kos and DU abound with them, some so negative and hatefull its sick.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:55 PM
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23. Strange stuff - how about some substance instead of pop Psych?
"...know nothing about his past, his performance, and the scandals that will bring him down."

Give us a hint, Larry! What do you pretend to know? Instead of documentation of some sort... any sort, you're just giving us cheap political screed.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 05:57 PM
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26. extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
Larry offers an Op-ED piece.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:00 PM
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29. It's interesting that Larry Johnson AND Joe Wilson do not support Obama.
I wonder why?
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:14 PM
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34. Because they're both former Republicans
with ties to the CIA?

Not what you were going for?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:17 PM
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36. Oh maximusveritas, stop with the damn logic and rational thinking.... :)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:17 PM
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37. No, not really.
I really would like to know. But the former republican doesn't bother me. They normally support Obama.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:35 PM
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42. Because they have worked for the Clintons before. They know them,
and feel more comfortable because of that. Basically, if Obama gets to be POTUS, they won't get the prized jobs they are looking for. It's that simple.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:22 PM
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38. I like Larry and read his blog
however, I think he has jumped the shark lately on some of the vile remarks. He is a republican--remember that. I have a lot of respect for him for coming to the defense of the Wilsons, but like someone posted, I seeing more to Larry than I want to see.

What's really going on here and what is the deal with his issues?:shrug:
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:29 PM
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39. I look at this kind of stuff the same way I listen to the RW radio a-holes...
Why get worked up over entertainment? That's all it is. All the pundits may piss you off or make you ecstatic....but it's all BS pablum. We will all, hopefully, see the show for what it is and make up our minds based on what facts and stands on the issues we FIND OUT about the candidate(s) we support. In the end....Larry who?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:12 PM
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45. Yeah I know, good point, Larry who?
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:45 PM
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46. OMG, I cant believe this shit....
STFU man, you're stupidity is showing.
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Monty__ Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:59 PM
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47. And here I thought....
this was a thread about the Kansas City Chiefs RB or the former Charlotte Hornets player.
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