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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:42 AM Original message |
Erica Jong: "Unfortunately the Hillary-Haters are in charge." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. As a woman who fought sexism within the Military during the 1970s and 80s, I'm ashamed of HRC |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
63. I also was AD, and it was a miasma of misogyny. I was sexually assaulted on the job, by a ranking |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. That's EXACTLY my point. If there is an instance of such a crime, report it. |
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metamars (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
181. As a man who never fought sexism, I'm also ashamed of HRC! |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Why should a woman's title have to reflect her marital status? |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
67. I agree 100%... |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
68. I've not really heard "Mrs. Clinton" and/or "Mr. Obama" |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
117. Actually, NY Times et al, ALWAYS use the MR, MRS with their names. |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. I did say "heard". :-) (eom) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
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lachattefolle (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
83. It is ridiculous to call Senator Clinton "Mrs. Clinton" because she |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
193. and when she leave office and becomes a private citizen |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
84. Imagine having to ask that question on |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
135. It shouldn't and it doesn't. Ms is perfectly acceptable unless you prefer Mrs. n/t |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. "Feminist sour grapes"??? |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. DU = Free Republic. nt |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
79. Probably worse, since, I am told, they are bysy attacking McCain, Huckabee |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
163. oh yes. DU =Free Republic |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
74. no, you wandered into your own issues |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #74 |
95. I think your cliches betray you |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Well, Obama is married with children. |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
75. yeah, what's wrong with that? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
52. That you never even heard of "MS" speaks volumes... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. The feminist movement. And French is M, Melle. MS magazine? Rings a bell? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #77 |
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For PaisAn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
98. You make the point yourself, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #98 |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
196. Wrong. You were taught wrong. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
78. SEN. or MS. GET IT? Women are not defined ANYMORE per their marital status. But you knew that. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
96. She was Attorney Rodham until the 'patriarchy' bullied her into changing her name. NT |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
104. What about "Mrs. President Bill Clinton"? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
150. What about you |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
111. How do you really know what his character is. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
115. Therefore, should Obama be Mrs. Obama . . . ??? !!!! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
128. Most women would have divorced after the first affare. After the second time, every NORMAL woman |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #128 |
140. 80% of men making over $75K a year have cheated on their wives... |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Great essay--thanks so much for posting it! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #140 |
186. So you saying that women will stay with their cheating husband as long as he makes big money? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #186 |
188. What a nasty, disgusting comment |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
148. sure |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. Hey, I saw newt. had both his eyes. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. Erica Jong on Hillary |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. if she's so tested and veted and experienced |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
151. People who bother to take a stand and who actually have to vote |
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LonelyLRLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
166. Uh, 'cause he lacks experience? |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Thanks. This proves Erica is not a mindless Hillbot. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Big Mistakes... AND admits NOTHING, showing she is incapable of even the first step toward change. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Keep your legs crossed. You'll be all right. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What a stupid comment. No surprise there. You have anything to say |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
119. Exactly. Erica Jong could not be more wrong. nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
129. She should have divorced Bill like every normal woman would do after several acts of adultery. |
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LonelyLRLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #129 |
167. Who the hell cares? |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. "They are crossing their legs for fear of castration." Sounds like DU to me. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Wait! You can't have it both ways Perry. You can't censor people for using negative sexist ... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I see no contradiction. The stereotypes are what feed the fear. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. OMG! The hypocrisy is so thick that you could cut it with a knife. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
80. sometimes complaining (about problems) is being strong and fighting |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
53. "I see no contradiction" |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
85. *They* (the sexists) are the ones who think it, for christ's sake. of course you can say it. nt |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
94. Tucker Carlson |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. Good article ... thanks for posting. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
17. Was the patriarchy in charge when she was being pushed as inevitable |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Very true. This article is a result of someone in shock over events that have not gone her way. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. And this is a silly ad hominem attack. You cannot read Erica Jong's mind. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
136. Yet, she's perfectly comfortable peering into the souls of all those who support Obama. |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. ignorance prevails. it seems. and erica jong points it out. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
71. Are you suggesting that he is more of a Republican than she? |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
133. i am asserting that hillary is a true blue democrat. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #133 |
156. That's called triangulation |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #133 |
187. I read that he received a 100% liberal rating and she was in the 80s. How does that fit in? |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. They have asserted themselves, and now she's losing. Long live the patriarchy! |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. The patriarchy forced her to ignore small states and the grass roots |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
158. The patriarchy forced her to ignore the base |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. THANK you! |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
24. Look at it this way. She's been attacked for laughing...AND for crying. That's just weird. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Look at it this way: She, Bill and a village have attacked Obama as a fairy tale and cult leader. nt |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Is there a point here? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Read it again! n/t |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. OK. Still looks like bullshit, though. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. As does the OP and your defense of it! n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
103. .../\... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
171. No, Bill said that Obama was not truthful. That is a legitimate criticism. Attacking laughter/crying |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. No it's not "attacked" - it may have helped her in NH. Every candidate is under a microscope. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
138. It's only weird if you misdiagnose the problem as Erica Jong did. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
27. So, Erica would feel Condoleeza's pain if she were running? Bay Buchanan's? |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Yes, and there would be these cute little nutcrackers. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Hillary Clinton has repeatedly stated that she can take it, |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
33. Hate? Well, people have been saying that Obama will be assassinated... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Don't worry. He's a guy, so it'll be OK. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. One thread centered around "the claim" that the KKK supported Obama (LIE) |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Yes, but if you want to change the subject, please start your own thread. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. No, this all boils down to CIVIL (human) Rights. We all have a cross to bear, yet |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
105. Some anonymous asswipe on DU is the EQUIVALENT of Jong?? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
153. What some yo-yo says on D.U. isn't quite on the same level |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
36. OFFS |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Could be a reading comprehension problem? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. No Perry. You just can NOT have it both ways. It's time for HRC "shine" or get off center stage. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The point would be...oh never mind. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
72. you forgot |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
154. ........ |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
41. This article demonstrates some very dangerous thinking IMO... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Erica's the one getting the illiterate e-mails. And the Obama people have turned DU into a cesspool. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Right, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with HRC running a poor campaign? |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. I simply reject most of your assumptions--that it was a poor campaign for example. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
116. People on both sides have turned DU into a cesspool. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
130. "And the Obama people have turned DU into a cesspool." |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #130 |
160. What about the Edwards people? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
139. Starting? Some of them have been doing it since the beginning. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
172. Earth to Obama camp: you know how White candidates used to get votes from people afraid of Blacks? |
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TheWarIzaLie (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #172 |
176. What a bunch of crap... |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
47. Her gender is irrelevant. She's a corporate shill. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
113. another deep and well thought out anti Hillary post |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
48. Jong worries about the hate leveled at her favorite... |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
51. I believe she's totally missing the point... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
55. Jesus Christ I Now Have To Cross Erica Off My Dance Card |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You Obama people are a bitter lot. |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Get Off The Cross Perry I Am Not Bitter |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Yes, many of them are. n/t |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
132. Because we're winning? |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
97. I think this article is about the idiot Republicans who are true Hillary Haters: |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
58. Thanks for posting it, Perry. |
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Rock_Garden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
59. Hillary haters remind me of the Salem witch trials. K&R! |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
60. Please Stop Misusing "Meme" |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. The Obamazombies dismiss every criticism as a "meme" now. n/t |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
142. Thats because they usually are |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
62. Long term effects of the right-wing hate campaign against the Clintons |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You got that right! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Another worn out meme: Everyone who attacks the Clintons are either freepers or right wing hacks. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. And the most worn out meme of them all... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #69 |
88. Oh come now QC. The Clintons have played "perpetual victimhood" for too long - it's not working. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Listening to more RW memes I see. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. See, that's the problem, every negative evaluation of your candidate is flatly *dismissed* as RW. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #92 |
161. Ever seen a child plug their ears and scream "LALALA Im not listening" |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #66 |
90. Obama supporters need to stop using RW memes on DU. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #90 |
157. Clinton supporters need to stop assimilating RW thought patterns |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
81. K & R for the truth. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
82. When did war become a feminist principle? nt |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. the war is just an excuse for the Hillary haters |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Go ahead, be dismissive, think of killing women and children as a minor issue. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #89 |
109. it's a real tragedy used as an excuse |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #109 |
169. Its a real tragedy that your candidate helped enable. |
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f the letter (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #87 |
102. Are you serious? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #87 |
110. Seamless logic there. nt |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #87 |
168. Thats right. I am against the war because of my hatred of Hillary |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #168 |
182. Come on, don't you remember us sitting in front of the TV drinking beer in the months... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #87 |
183. This might surprise you, but Hillary Clinton is not the center of the universe. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
86. Thanks Perry |
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hiaasenrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
99. We've heard all that whining before. Yawn. |
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Ano Genitus (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
100. I would love, love, love to see a woman President. |
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f the letter (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
101. This is crap : |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
118. It's part of the "criticisms" levelled at her by say MSGOP - that bastion of free |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
106. And many of them are on DU |
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AnarchoFreeThinker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
107. Is it possible that any of the shots she takes are deserved? Is it possible that |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
108. Brilliant! |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
112. Now I just heard Clinton on the radio talking about the poor people , |
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connecticut yankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
114. Not Vince Foster |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
121. County Clerk committed a misdemeanor by not fulfilling his duties. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #121 |
155. Insurance companies don't have a problem with the name thing |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
122. I don't like Obama OR Hillary. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
123. Oh, Jong wrote a sequel... "Fear Of Foundering" |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
124. i am determined to read no more anti-democrat threads. From now on if |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #124 |
137. "anti-democrat"? Interesting expression. Also, OP has to do mostly with MSM |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
125. K and R |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
126. Jong Has Come Unzipped...She Might as Well Compare Clinton to Holocaust Survivors |
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mimitabby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
127. good essay, thanks |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
131. I resent that everyone that supports Obama is a Hillary hater. Grow up. nm |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Obviously, that was not the point of the OP article. "in control" doesn't refer |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
143. All of these affluent "feminists" that belong to an era long past |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
144. This is so silly |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
145. First NOW, then Maya Angelou and now Erica Jong... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #145 |
189. "Women's libbers" -- OMFG |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
146. No Ms Jong. I am not in charge nor am I a "Hillary Hater" |
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Oskie (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #146 |
159. But Michelle Obama doesn't agree with you...she said she'd |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Michele Obama and lots of others |
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chknltl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #159 |
165. I have not heard her say this...if so I disagree with her... |
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sce56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
147. I have but one thing to reply with to that |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
149. Erica Jong is so out of touch it's pathetic. |
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metamars (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #149 |
179. Obama vs. Hillary scrutinized by Law Prof Lessig |
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NoGodsNoMasters (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
152. This makes me very nervous... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
162. I support women's lib, but |
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TheWarIzaLie (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
170. HillBots are sounding more and more like 'Pukes these days |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #170 |
173. Hilldog? You can not see the sexism in calling the senator from NY a DOG? |
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TheWarIzaLie (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #173 |
175. I'm not slandering the entire female gender |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
174. Everyone go read "Women, Race and Class" by Angela Davis RIGHT NOW |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
177. The Obama supporters.... |
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From The Left (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
178. Ann Coulter Supports Hillary Clinton Too |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #178 |
191. She does not and you know that |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
180. Don't watch media pundits we know what they are like by now listen to the candidates then decide... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
184. This makes me cry. Because it is true. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
185. I tend to call her Hillary!, because that's what her signs said in NY in 2000 |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
190. I love reading anything Erica Jong writes. Thanks for posting this. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
192. The patriarchy against Hillary debunked |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
197. Thank you Erica for expressing some of the frustration |
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