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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:06 AM
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Heard something interesting on CNN radio yesterday
This is a bit of a spinoff on the "you can tell the way a person will govern by the way they run their campaign" idea.

The commentator said that Barack Obama has either set up or will set up offices in every single state. If he wins the nomination, he will have the ground crew in place to begin campaigning for the national election. Neither Clinton nor McCain have followed this strategy - Clinton in particular has skipped smaller states to campaign in larger ones. Neither of them will have the infrastructure in place. Setting it up was extremely expensive so it won't be an easy thing to do after the fact.

I think that all campaigns in the future would be smart to emulate this.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:09 AM
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1. It's not a bad strategy but may be unnecessary. People who DON'T
vote in primaries are usually the ones whose minds are already made up and can't be changed.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:11 AM
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2. I'm not understanding what you mean. Are you saying that
if somebody voted for Hillary in the primary and she doesn't get the nomination, they won't vote for Obama? (or vice versa, don't want to make any assumptions).
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:17 AM
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8. There are scads of independents that voted for Obama that would sit out a HRC election
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:21 AM
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10. Those "scads of Independents" are mostly IINOs....Rethugs newly
claiming I.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:13 PM
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17. Your claim is silly. Kerry carried Independents in 2004. And Indies voted big for Dems in 2006.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 12:14 PM by blm
Now you want to smear their participation because they just don't like or trust Clintons?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:11 AM
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3. Lesson learned from 2000 and 2004 - DNC infrastructure was too weak to handle
any presidential campaign and the nominees were forced to tap into infrastructures in many states that had been collapsed for years.

Dean, though, has been rebuilding those long neglected infrastructures and that is one of the reasons 2006 was so difficult for RNC to pull off all their votestealing the way they did in 2000, 2002 and 2004.

McAuliffe's stewardship of the DNC was a lesson and an eyeopener. Thankfully Dean is acting in a trustworthy and responsible way towards ALL states.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:18 AM
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9. Dean's 50 State Strategy is SO much better than McAuliffe's ignoring of all but coasts
McAuliffe gave credibility to RW pundits who called DEMs elitists. He made the COUNTRY feel like the Democratic Party was not interested in them and could not be bothered with what they had to say. NOT a winning attitude!

Dean resonates with those who were the TRADITIONAL DEMOCRATIC BASE but had been too long neglected. His method of LISTENING to and communicating WITH people in all states goes a long way to lessen the divisive impact the GOP and DLC has had on We The People.

Let people know you are listening and you might just hear some folks with lots of good advice. To solve America's problems, the American PEOPLE have to be engaged and involved. It is heartening that the Obama organization seems to understand this important fact of life.

It's OUR country. We need leaders who understand that.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:23 AM
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12. Guess where the Dems lost in 2004 and 2000? nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:24 AM
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13. McAuliffe was disinterested in Dem party's success all over the country and it showed.
And who did that end up hurting? Only Democratic voters, Democratic candidates, this country and ultimately the world.

That's all.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:07 PM
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14. I will ALWAYS consider McAuliffe to be a GOP MVP
They couldn't have done it without him x(
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:14 AM
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4. That would be a great idea
But it takes a lot of money and to get that you need a lot of good endorsements, good MSM coverage, etc.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:15 AM
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5. horrible strategy!
after all, those little states, and all those caucuses are not significant, do not matter, so no need to even let them vote in the general.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:15 AM
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6. very few will have the money
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:16 AM
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7. But she is sending Chelsea to Hawai'i
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:21 AM
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11. I think I have been a fairly objective person
regarding the contest between Obama and Hillary. I see both good and bad in each candidate.

I think Obama's main strength has been to energize so many people. I hope that Obama does succeed in revitalizing Dem party structure in every state. And, yes I know Dean was the one who first talked about this idea, but I think Obama has generated enough excitement to make that plan work.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:09 PM
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15. Obama's office opened here in San Antonio yesterday.
So many people showed up to volunteer they couldn't fit inside and spilled out onto the sidewalk - there were tons of people. I have never seen anything like it.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:13 PM
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16. Something We Should Have Been Doing For A While
You don't win people over by ignoring them.
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