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peoli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:15 PM Original message |
Hillary attacks words : "Words are cheap" |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Words are cheap, but selling out is not. Look at her lobbyists contributors. |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. "Speeches don't put food on the table. Speeches don't fill up your tank, or fill your prescr..." |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Don't imagine a pink elephant. |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
58. OH MY GOD I JUST DID. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Barak = Where the rubber meets the sky, Hillary = where the rubber meets the road |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Hillary=where the rubber meets the road and America becomes road kill. nt |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. And debaters! |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Problem Is She Does Take Them On... |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. Looks Like the "Attack!" switch has been flipped |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. "Obama is a hopemongerer. He's only winning in red states." |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. "I would cut down every tree in the forest to get at the devil." Where then, my lord will you hide? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Didn't She Say That "Lobbyists Represent Real People" |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. Here comes the slime ... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. She is right. nt |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. But, then again, words are cheap |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Cost $100 per word if you have a good speechwriter. n/t |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
56. So words put food on the table after all |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. The presidency is not a novel, a movie, or a play. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. No, but the public face of the permanent campaign presidency is Kabuki Theater |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
67. Right there! |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. which means that speech she gave |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. and where was she |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Forget all that -- she had the chance to take him on on Tuesday and she punted. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed" |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Apparently, Lincoln didn't do shit either. |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. Good point. Martin Luther King Jr. is a great example of speech having a huge impact n\t |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. There are so many others. Lincoln. FDR. JFK. Bryan. Washington. Truth. Darrow. RFK. Malcolm X. |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's a great line. |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
59. I know, you DO have to take on Special Interest |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
14. yes they are ... and it is the action and the works that accompany them that gives them their value |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
60. Delivers What? |
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Shine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's a good angle for her to take w/ respect to Obama's oratory skill |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
16. as predicted we are now officially in stage V |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Team Hillary is done, but they'll try everything to pull it closer. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. How much more reviled does it need to get before we hit stage VI? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. well the cult thing lasted 2 weeks so stage V should last until March 5 |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. We've still got a ways to go... n/t |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
57. Stage VI ... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
18. "Just Words . . ." |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. She's going to take on the special interests? The ones who are funding this sham of a campaign? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. Rove at work--attack his strength. That's all she's got left. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Point out his weakness, he's all talk. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. 800 bills sponsored in the Illinois Senate-- |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Are you including the one where he compromised with the nuclear power plant |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. LOL! Can't refute my point in the face of facts, so go off on a tangent. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
22. Last I checked, every piece of legislation since the dawn of civilization |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. To be fair, that is why I'm a (civil) libertarian |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. It would be nice, wouldn't it? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. In the old days people actually argued about whether the social contract was |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I'm trending hard Lacanian on this primary process |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Fight For The Phallus |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
70. Not true at all... |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. What a scathing attack !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 111 !!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
34. I don't know where she gets her words. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. I wish she'd give us fewer words. |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Obama and his supporters don't want her to talk at all. They want to sling mud |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Defends? She's the one on the attack these days |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. The venom spitter admits her speeches are not as effective as Obamas n\t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
45. Hillary has proven her words are cheap many times...look at her war votes |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. those dam Words! a pox on Speeches!! |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
51. Well... |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Looks like the dogs been leashed n/t |
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IrishBloodEngHeart (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
53. Why has she spent the last year giving speeches then? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-14-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
55. Actually I think Sen. Clinton could do with a couple of new speech writers. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Hey man, when did you join the cult? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. "the cult" !!! LOL. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. His organization skills are impressive indeed...and the Mets |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
61. "Words are cheap" = "Attack!" |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Hopefully you all will share your abundant wisdom and help when |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
73. I'm happy to share my abundant wisdom and do so often |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
62. I was thinking the same thing...to me words have always been powerful. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Excellent! |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
71. Wow if this is the best she has - its over.. n/t |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
74. So is labor, apparently. |
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