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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:15 PM
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Hillary attacks words : "Words are cheap"
Senator Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., hit hard at her top rival at a GM plant in Lordstown, OH, saying, "Speeches don't put food on the table. Speeches don't fill up your tank, or fill your prescription, or do anything about that stack of bills that keeps you up at night."

Clinton continued, "Some people may think words are change. You and I know better. Words are cheap. You can't just talk about the special interests. You have to take them on."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/clinton-sharpen.html

Attention:

Writers!
Therapists!
Actors!
Educators!
Sign Linguists!
Historians!

WORDS ARE CHEAP!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:16 PM
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1. Words are cheap, but selling out is not. Look at her lobbyists contributors.
She's NO HAT and ALL PRATTLE.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:36 PM
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17. "Speeches don't put food on the table. Speeches don't fill up your tank, or fill your prescr..."
um. Forgive me if I'm wrong but, wasn't this sentence part of her SPEECH????

So, according to her SPEECH, SPEECHES don't mean shit, so why should I listen to her speech then if speeches are meaningless?... unless of course I disagree with her about speeches, in which case why the hell would she be making a speech that I either have to disagree with or agree with her that it is meaningless and a waste of her time and energy that should be devoted to putting food on my table, filling my tank and prescr???... OH FUCK IT! I GIVE UP!!!

I'm so confused...
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:21 PM
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30. Don't imagine a pink elephant.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:53 AM
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58. OH MY GOD I JUST DID.
WEIRD.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:41 PM
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52. Barak = Where the rubber meets the sky, Hillary = where the rubber meets the road
Where the rubber meets the road is where things actually happen, where things actually get done.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:17 AM
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63. Hillary=where the rubber meets the road and America becomes road kill. nt
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:16 PM
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2. And debaters!
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 PM
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3. The Problem Is She Does Take Them On...
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 PM by JimGinPA
As allies & donors.

:rofl:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:17 PM
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4. Looks Like the "Attack!" switch has been flipped
We'll see how that works.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:18 PM
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5. "Obama is a hopemongerer. He's only winning in red states."
"Now lets hope we win in Texas, but hope is all we have left."
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:25 PM
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31. "I would cut down every tree in the forest to get at the devil." Where then, my lord will you hide?
"HOPE is another word that will not avail us..."
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:19 PM
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6. Didn't She Say That "Lobbyists Represent Real People"
So which are the special interests whose asses are going to get kicked - the special interests who *don't* have lobbyists?

WTF?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:20 PM
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7. Here comes the slime ...
She's just jealous because SHE CAN'T GIVE A GOOD SPEECH -- and NEITHER CAN BILL (despite what HE may think).
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:20 PM
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8. She is right. nt
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:43 PM
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26. But, then again, words are cheap
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:27 PM
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32. Cost $100 per word if you have a good speechwriter. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:04 AM
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56. So words put food on the table after all
Who knew?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:22 PM
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9. The presidency is not a novel, a movie, or a play.
I agree with her on this point.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:29 PM
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33. No, but the public face of the permanent campaign presidency is Kabuki Theater
Which has no bearing on what these guys will say to lawmakers behind the scenes when elected... sadly :(
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:26 AM
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67. Right there!
What Leopolds Ghost said. :bounce:
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:23 PM
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10. which means that speech she gave
explaining her IWR vote was worth a plugged nickel.

She's such a POS
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:25 PM
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11. and where was she
when it comes to taking Bush on over the past 7 years on Iraq, on Gitmo, on Abu Ghraib, on habeuas corpus...

Oh she's been speechifying, too, but we know here words mean squat!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:40 PM
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23. Forget all that -- she had the chance to take him on on Tuesday and she punted.
FISA
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:26 PM
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12. "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed"
"Some people may think words are change. You and I know better. Words are cheap." - Hillary

Oh, really?

"...In spite of the difficulties of the moment, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal...

...I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight...

...From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

When we let freedom ring,...we will be able to speed up that day when all God's children...will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we're free at last!"

You're gonna lose big relying on that argument, Hillary.

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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:31 PM
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35. Apparently, Lincoln didn't do shit either.
His Emancipation Proclamation was just words on paper. It took an act of Congress to get things done.

Come to think of it, the President has NO Constitutionally recognized power to influence how the laws are written or how they are enforced except... words. :crazy:
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I Vote In Pittsburgh Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:45 PM
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43. Good point. Martin Luther King Jr. is a great example of speech having a huge impact n\t
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:30 PM
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54. There are so many others. Lincoln. FDR. JFK. Bryan. Washington. Truth. Darrow. RFK. Malcolm X.
To say that words don't matter is to deflate everything I want this nation to stand for. I despise this statement from Hillary. She will lose because of this statement. Words DO matter. No matter how much hate is spewed here and elsewhere, this older Boomer knows in his heart that words matter.

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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:27 PM
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13. It's a great line.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 07:28 PM by smalll
Some people may think words are change.
You and I know better: words are cheap.
You can't just talk about the special interests,
You have to take them on.

Hits a lot of key points. And for heaven's sake, trying to dredge up various professionals who might be offended by the "words are cheap" statement: stretching!

(And what exactly are "Sign Linguists" ???? Deaf people? I think the word you just missed might have been "translators.")

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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:05 AM
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59. I know, you DO have to take on Special Interest
by they taking you on their paylist. Why not?

:silly: :crazy:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:28 PM
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14. yes they are ... and it is the action and the works that accompany them that gives them their value
and worth ... i do believe hillary knows what she is talking about, and i also believe that it is very easy to promise the moon, or sell any moonshine about being a leader, a compassionate conservative, or whatever and not deliver. the nation is filled with con artists and con artistry ... hillary, on the other hand, delivers.

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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:07 AM
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60. Delivers What?
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 10:07 AM by spokane
Speech! remember she said "talk is cheap"


:shrug:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:30 PM
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15. It's a good angle for her to take w/ respect to Obama's oratory skill
I'm not in one camp or the other, I'm just agreeing that she makes a valid point.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:31 PM
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16. as predicted we are now officially in stage V
Stage I When you do not have the best position on the war - prevaricate

Stage II When you do not have the clear voice of leadership - triangulate

Stage III When you do not have the momentum - trivialize the election just lost

Stage IV When you do not have anywhere to go - instigate a smear on the supporters as unthinking cultists

Stage V When the supporters embrace the slur and turn it around - start backing up the dump truck and release a load
against the leader who has sparked a fire across the country.

Stage VI When this desperate tactic is reviled - step aside as the great locomotive of history barrels by you and you turn to watch history pass you by.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:39 PM
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21. Team Hillary is done, but they'll try everything to pull it closer.
I think it shows what a classless act she is.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:41 PM
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24. How much more reviled does it need to get before we hit stage VI?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:47 PM
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28. well the cult thing lasted 2 weeks so stage V should last until March 5
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:08 PM
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49. We've still got a ways to go... n/t
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:53 AM
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57. Stage VI ...
Almost there...so close...I can see it coming!!

GOBAMA!!!
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:37 PM
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18. "Just Words . . ."
Just words.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. Just words. We have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Just words.

Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.

Just words.

I have a dream.

Just words.

Let me say it before you do: I am no Dr. King, no President Kennedy, no FDR, no Thomas Jefferson. But I do know that the right words, spoken from the heart with conviction, with a vision of a better place and a faith in the unseen, are a call to action.


Deval Patrick
October 15, 2006

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:38 PM
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19. She's going to take on the special interests? The ones who are funding this sham of a campaign?
Talk about words being cheap.

:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:38 PM
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20. Rove at work--attack his strength. That's all she's got left.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:43 PM
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27. Point out his weakness, he's all talk.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:00 PM
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29. 800 bills sponsored in the Illinois Senate--
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:38 PM
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39. Are you including the one where he compromised with the nuclear power plant
folks, thus burning his constituents whose cause he took up?

Is that the one on environment about buying energy from "renewable resources?"
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:05 PM
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48. LOL! Can't refute my point in the face of facts, so go off on a tangent.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:40 PM
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22. Last I checked, every piece of legislation since the dawn of civilization
was composed entirely of words.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:36 PM
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37. To be fair, that is why I'm a (civil) libertarian
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 08:42 PM by Leopolds Ghost
Like Thomas Jefferson I understand that while this may be a nation of laws
not of men, but those laws are ultimately nothing but a contract between
free men (or women), written on paper for ease of recollection (which
is indeed how the Anglo-American justice system works -- on the basis of
precedent, not absolute interpretation, and thus independent of the
arm of government that dictates and enforces the laws.)

Nation states are not reality, they are a mere social fact -- a
multi-media shared hallucination, like money or art. They have
no meaning to the birds in the field...

...or to any creature so technologically advanced as to not rely or
depend on US law "on paper" for support and protection (you don't
need to look to UFOs for that... just go to Switzerland or the
Cayman Islands and ask yourself whether US law applies to the
trans-national super-rich, with their private jets, sovereign
wealth accounts and international lawyers).
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:38 PM
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38. It would be nice, wouldn't it?
Having a social contract, I mean.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:47 PM
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44. In the old days people actually argued about whether the social contract was
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 08:49 PM by Leopolds Ghost
merely the evolution of a Conan-style arrangement between the haves and
the have-nots. "You give me bread, and my men won't kill you."

Some have argued that the haves have ALWAYS depended on the consent of the have-nots for the source of their power... "we give you bread, you protect our village from the OTHER warlord." That could well be.

We have now entered a period in the course of human technological evolution
where the haves no longer need the have-nots, except to keep them fed, entertained,
and in check.

Nobody speaks of a social contract between the richest and the poorest, or of social justice.

Instead, we're all expected to fight each other over WORDS and IDEAS, postmodern-style.

Words and ideas about a lifestyle we have increasingly less control over.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:50 PM
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46. I'm trending hard Lacanian on this primary process
Read DU and you'll find it's a fight for the phallus, and little else.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:51 PM
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47. Fight For The Phallus
Great name for a new Indiana Jones movie

(in which Harrison Ford runs for president to prevent a statue of Hermes
from falling into the wrong, um, hands.)
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #22
70. Not true at all...
In 1967, Representative Robert Johansonen (D - Maryland) submitted HR 132 entirely in the form of creative dance.

It was tabled.

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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:42 PM
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25. What a scathing attack !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 111 !!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this how the campaign is going to answer the Repukes?

:popcorn: The GE is going to be fun after all.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:29 PM
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34. I don't know where she gets her words.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 08:30 PM by slick8790
But my word prices have been climbing these past few years. Why are no candidates from either party putting forth word-plans? Words a universal human right, and we are the only nation in the world where we can't give adequate words to everyone! And you know it's Bush's fault. He's doing so well he can even make up his own words!

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:33 PM
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36. I wish she'd give us fewer words.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 08:33 PM by high density
This scorched earth shit she's doing is not amusing.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:41 PM
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40. Obama and his supporters don't want her to talk at all. They want to sling mud
and get upset when she defends.

You guys are what John Edwards said.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:43 PM
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42. Defends? She's the one on the attack these days
Sorry if you can't see that.
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I Vote In Pittsburgh Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:42 PM
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41. The venom spitter admits her speeches are not as effective as Obamas n\t
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 08:42 PM by I Vote In Pittsburgh
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 08:47 PM
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45. Hillary has proven her words are cheap many times...look at her war votes
She has actually said she voted for bills thinking they wouldn't pass.

:shrug:


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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:13 PM
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50. those dam Words! a pox on Speeches!!
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:16 PM
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51. Well...
Obamas words seem to be more dangerous tha bullets. She better not let the dog out, Bill attacking just doesn't go over well.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:24 AM
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66. Looks like the dogs been leashed n/t
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:49 PM
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53. Why has she spent the last year giving speeches then?
how ridiculous. She hasn't done anything the past year but give speeches, but talk is cheap. That is comical.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:31 PM
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55. Actually I think Sen. Clinton could do with a couple of new speech writers.
The ones she has now aren't very good, IMO.


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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:20 AM
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65. Hey man, when did you join the cult?
:) That's good. Makes me feel better about Barack.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:48 AM
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68. "the cult" !!! LOL.
I'm not a Hillary hater. I can make a strong case for her candidacy, and the more vitriolic her detractors, the better my defense.

But Obama is getting it done. Axelrod appears to have better instincts than Bill Clinton's old political chums and operatives, at least in the current nomination contests.

I think his coattails are longer than hers and I think John McCain should probably concede now. It will save him a lot of trouble and embarrassment later!

Go, Mets.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:12 AM
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72. His organization skills are impressive indeed...and the Mets
full squad reports tomorrow!!
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:09 AM
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61. "Words are cheap" = "Attack!"
Time for Team BO to run and hide under the bed, dont forget to whine and pout before you go.

God forbid he get the nomination, you have no idea what "attack" is.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:19 AM
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64. Hopefully you all will share your abundant wisdom and help when
we are cowering under the bed, having naively thought that we knew what to do.

:scared: Be there for me. :hug:
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:22 AM
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73. I'm happy to share my abundant wisdom and do so often
and that's not a fairy tale. (Don't cry, it's ok!)
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:15 AM
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62. I was thinking the same thing...to me words have always been powerful.
Whatever happened to the pen being mightier than the sword. Words and the ability to share them with others were the driving force of the Age of Enlightenment. Do Tom Paines' words mean nothing in the history of our Nation?

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Words, words, words...all so meaningless.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:03 AM
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69. Excellent!
Hillary can't win on her words or record; she's such a tool.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:08 AM
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71. Wow if this is the best she has - its over.. n/t
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:27 AM
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74. So is labor, apparently.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/538674.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/593175.cms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

Seriously: talking to Lordstown workers about how she'll fix their plight when all the while her husband signing 41's NAFTA is partially responsible for it (the other part being GM's greedy and short-sighted execs)?

SHAME.

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