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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:54 AM Original message |
Recap: Obama refused to take photograph with Newsom after same sex marriage controversy |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sorry to say, but thats his prerogative to not want a photo shoot with this person... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Because Willie Brown and Gavin Newsom have no reason to lie about it |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. So says you... Lets hear from Willie Brown and Gavin Newsom then... n/t |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Read the story |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
76. You don't have any idea why Obama refused to pose with Newsom. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. For the 1000th time |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Well, the adultery we know about. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Both Newsom and Willie Brown have said it |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And they can divine Obama's motivation? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. You guys are getting more transparent as time goes by |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
84. Wish they'd finally get so transparent I couldn't see any of them |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. of course. and it's the perogative of fair-minded people not to vote for him. nt |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Yeah, he's a regular profile in courage |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
42. That's why we don't support Mrs. Clinton |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
43. This speaks a bit about his centrists views |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. His fans who swoon for McClurkin wouldn't like that. NT |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. Duplicate. |
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NMMatt (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
9. Clinton actively supported the opposition to Newsome so spare the fucking sermons -nt |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
66. First off his name is Newsom. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
10. Gotta pic of Clinton with Newsom? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yeah. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I stand corrected. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. It took 2 seconds and Google. NT |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. FWIW I think Newsom is a slimy fellow. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. If MLK, JFK and FDR could have affairs, I can hardly hold it against lesser men such |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. With their friend's wife? |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. issues and personality should rarely be regarded together |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I disagree.........low assholes that don't have respect for their friends or their wives.... |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Um, except he hadn't had the affair yet when Obama snubbed him |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I smelled him long ago........ |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. No you didn't |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Wow, but you support DOMA-signing, DADT enabling Bill Clinton? |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:51 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Bill isn't running |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Insult him all you want... |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
48. Do you have a link showing that Hillary Clinton opposes DOMA and DADT? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Yeah. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Here's the real link which shows that Obama and Clinton have the exact same positions |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Did you actually look at my link? It is the cover for that link. |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Did you look at mine? Show me where she's taken a more progressive stand than Obama on gay issues |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. As I've said repeatedly, HRC scores them identically. Duh. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #31 |
63. Meh |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
86. Bingo! |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
47. You're very disingenuous |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
38. How embarassing for you. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
74. lol |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. When where those taken? |
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rjx (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Obama openly admits that he is AGAINST same sex marriage |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Which means you can vote for Hillary, or you can vote for a coward |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Well done. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
68. SNAP! |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
69. LOL Nice. n/t |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
14. Look, I am not going to play this down... Cause I certainly don't know how... |
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kdpeters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
18. Nothing but a bunch of silliness. |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I don't think it's about gossip, but I do think it matters |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
29. Hillary said "talk is cheap" in reference to Mr. Obama. This is just another |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. That's exactly right |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:48 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Maybe she can work to strengthen her husband's gay rights limiting DOMA |
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MagsDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Barack Obama is the real creep |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
51. In my opinion, the one who gives a platform to his bigoted friend. |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. How dare you Blaspheme our Profit! |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
58. She said that right after announcing her support for same-sex marriage, right? |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
36. It's whether you think Gavin Newsom is a hero in the fight for same-sex marriage equality. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I agree with you, Terrya. |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Alot of people think he was in the right to what he did... |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. 0 Just keep waiting for equal rights until after the 2030 election you demanding gays |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Gavin is mayor for life in SF. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. It hurt nationally? Please elaborate. Thanks. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Mayor for life? |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. very popular in san francisco |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Still doesn't answer my question. |
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yeswecan08 (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
41. Obama has moral courage - simple as that |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
45. I like Mayor Newsom |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Fabio, your post just reminded me of something |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
53. Newsom is not exactly Mr. Credibility |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
57. A Picture is worth a thousand words |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Use against him in what way? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
60. Not a good idea for Barack to stand next to a radioactive womanizer |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. But this is ok ... |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. YOWZA! |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #70 |
85. In best Steve Irwin impression: |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. Zing! |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. This occurred in 2004, long before any press reports of womanizing |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
71. Maybe he did it because Newsome betrayed his best friend by having an affair with his wife? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. This was well before that. Sorry. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
89. I am really starting to worry about the comprehension ability of Obama fans. n/t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
75. So claims Newsom, at any rate. |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
79. A friend of mine is an independant gay man |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
83. Obama is such a spoiled silver spoon prima donna. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
87. As a San Franciscan, I can assure you Newsom is shilling for his candidate, Hillary. |
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