Obama is SMOKIN'!

[underpants]

anyone know if he has stuck with the quitting smoking?

[burythehatchet]

1. Very nice. Got one of Hillary eating a twinkie?

[DJ13]

13. "Very nice. Got one of Hillary eating a twinkie?" No, much worse....

I have one with Hillary picking her nose.

But decency prevents me from posting it.

[sniffa]

92. This one?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

2. Not only smoking, but smoking indoors by the looks of it.

What a bad, bad man.

[Bucky]

51. Original

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png crisp image

fuzzy image.

[enfield collector]

89. that looks like a Marlboro, glad to see Barrack is supporting American

tobacco growers.

[New Earth]

81. OH NOES!

:eyes:

[thereismore]

3. That's a long filter. He is chewing nicorette gum nowadays. nt

[elixir]

22. Must be Virginia Slims 100s, extra menthol.

[Bucky]

54. Actually it's BS slick, extra rightwing garbage flavored.

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png

fuzzy image

[rinsd]

4. My two year quit-a-versary was on Tuesday.

I hope he was able to stick with it.

[sandyj999]

17. The heart is for your anniversary, Isn't it great? n/t

[rinsd]

37. That was very sweet of you.

[underpants]

27. Congrats

2 1/2 years for me

[rinsd]

35. Congrats to you as well.

[Recursion]

38. Congrats!!! nt

[Yael]

52. Congrats!!

[solara]

I will have my one year 'quit-a-versary' in April of this year

I really applaud you and everyone who makes this change in their lives. It is not easy on so many levels, but I have no doubt that Obama is doing his very best to succeed. No one is a 'bad person' because they smoke.

:toast: Here's to you!

[rinsd]

98. And to you! Stay strong!

:toast:

[Drunken Irishman]

104. My mom is coming up on 3 years in March.

It's been tough for her, but she's stuck through it.

Congrats on your quitting! :)

[rinsd]

110. Good for her!

And thank you.

[intaglio]

114. Coming up to 3 for me in April

Keep going strong :pals:

[THUNDER HANDS]

5. that's photoshopped, btw

and I don't know about him, but I've been off the cancer sticks for 3 weeks now. In fact, this is three weeks and one day for me today.

[jlake]

9. Makes you wonder how they've managed to keep the real pics out of sight... so far.

[Bucky]

19. It took me 20 seconds on google to find it

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png

[jlake]

24. I guess you're missing my point. THIS photo is a fake. But there are no doubt

real ones.... how has Obama managed to keep them out of view?

[Bucky]

36. Of course. They have actual photos of him smoking so they photoshop this one because...?

I don't get your point because you don't get logic. You start with the premise that he must be smoking and post a photoshopped image to back it up. When you're shown that the image is photoshopped, you declare that there MUST be actual photos of him smoking because he's starting smoking again.

[jlake]

40. I didnt post this picture, so I don't know what you're talking about.

And yes, I guarantee you there are numerous pictures/videos of Obama smoking that will come out.

[LSK]

62. have you stopped beating your wife?

:shrug:

[Bucky]

69. If this is how "Jlake" argues, I'm more worried about his wife beating him.

:)

[SoxFan]

42. Covert Death Squads

We cultists don't think twice about nicities like the law...

[jlake]

47. No, I just think the GOP is waiting til he's got the nom.

Obama doesn't have to use his death squade - the GOP is shilling or him - for now.

[Barack_America]

87. Nah. The GOP doesn't want to lose Big Tobacco's support!

;)

[Barack_America]

20. Congrats! That's great! I hope you stick with it!

Are you using anything to help?

[THUNDER HANDS]

26. Commit lozenges

[elixir]

25. Looks real to me. He's an admitted smoker, this is probably an old picture. He looks tan.

[alcibiades_mystery]

32. Darkened through photo-manipulation, a la OJ

Pretty sicko photoshop, you ask me.

[Bucky]

43. Here's the original photo

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png Ooops, reversed and NOT smoking.



This is, of course, a non issue. There's a lot to argue against Obama with. Smoking ain't one of the issues.

[Cha]

41. Congratulations and may

the power of your brain override the stinkin' habit of the crap the big tobacco companies put in their cigs to have us throw money into their coffers.

[Yael]

53. Congrats to you too!!!

[Hepburn]

60. I quit the beginning of last June....

...when they rushed me to the hospital and I spent 5 days there because of a massive amount of blood clots in my lungs.

Let me tell you...once you feel like your Honda CRV is sitting on your chest and you have to literally work for each breath you take, cigarettes are of NO interest. I never even thought about lighting up again once this happened to me. What a clue on what emphysema and COPD feels like. No thank you!

Good luck to anyone who has quit and is trying to stick with it! And an hug for all of us who have quit or are struggling with quitting!

:hug:

[jlake]

6. Rumor is that he is still smoking - I'm sure the videos will come out once he has the nom.

[Danger Mouse]

10. yeah, that'd sure cost him the election.

come on already. :eyes:

[jlake]

21. it surely won't help.

[Renew Deal]

57. You guys are crazy

You're waiting for the big Obama smoking scandle? Really? Get a grip. A lot of the country is smoking. That's millions of potential votes. :eyes:

[jlake]

61. You don't think that the GOP will make it an issue?

You are absolutely drunk on your koolaid - and yes, i think it can cost him 5% of the vote - enough to cost him the election.

[Renew Deal]

65. They take more money from tabacco than the Democrats.

So they have nothing to say. This picture isn't even real. You're desperation is showing.

[jlake]

67. This picture is not real, but thare real ones - they will attack him on it. GUARANTEED.

It's not going to cost the tobacco cos any money so they won't care.

[Renew Deal]

71. Post them!

Seriously, don't you realize how ridiculous this is?

[jlake]

75. Did you even read my posts? You DON'T think there are?

I can't believe even a bot like you would be that naive.

[Renew Deal]

82. Right, it's my fault you're making statements you can't prove.

DESPERATION!

[jlake]

84. It's your fault that you're so blinded by your idol that you can't make an assumption

based on probability.

[Renew Deal]

88. lol

You know nothing about me. What's the probability that there's S&M pictures of Hillary out there? There have to be some. Right?

[New Earth]

86. lmfao

:rofl:

[elixir]

28. You'd be surprised how personal voters can be, a picture of a politician smoking is not cool.

[Renew Deal]

74. What about a picture of Hillary doing S&M?

O noez!!!! We're screwn!!!!!!!1111 I'm series!

[Danger Mouse]

115. The picture is a fake...

[mkultra]

11. rumor has it

Hillarys still eating twinkies

[NYCGirl]

15. ....

[Renew Deal]

55. Who gives a shit?

:rofl:

[jlake]

58. Alot of people. It shows a lack of strength in character & many

latte liberals don't take kindly to smoking - you do know about liberal places banning smoking, right?

[Renew Deal]

63. Yes, I know all about it.

And I'm a non smoker. But no one cares about this stuff.

[jlake]

We shall see. And I guarantee that you're wrong.

[Renew Deal]

68. Hillary is into S&M

And that picture PROVES IT. You kool aid drinkers cannot refute this. We're so screwn!!!11

[jlake]

73. Wow. A Picture from FreeRepublic of the "witch" being burned at the stake.

Go fuck yourself.

[Renew Deal]

76. Actually, it's from mother jones.

Now you get it.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/harpy_hero_heretic_hillary.html

[jlake]

Actually, it's posted with regularity on FR.... Just sayin'

[Renew Deal]

83. You would know.

[jlake]

I would. I am smart enough to do oppo research and know that they are DYING to run against Obama.

[Renew Deal]

91. So you use their talking points.

Morans!

[jlake]

94. I wouldn't say that.

[RiverStone]

95. It took a greater lack of strength for Hillary to vote for the IWR...

...and even less character regarding her refusal to admit it was a mistake.

I'd say the consequences of her choice had far more reaching ramification's than Obama's cigarette.

And I am a pro-Obama liberal who can't stand f'ing cig smoke!

[jlake]

100. It takes real character to vote "present" and not show up for votes.

If you think Obama would have stood up the IWR, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Dude probably would have been a co-sponsor.

[thereismore]

7. SMOKIN' hot. nt

[Danger Mouse]

8. how tasteful.

[Araxen]

12. He wouldn't be the first president that smokes

and certainly won't be the last.

[Bucky]

14. That picture is photoshopped and reversed. I can email you the original if you want

I've got teh same picture without the cig---he's facing the opposite direction in that one.

[underpants]

18. I really was just asking about his quitting

:shrug:

As an ex-smoker myself I was curious.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

30. ?

Weak.

[underpants]

77. NO it was why I posted this

Geesh

[Bucky]

56. compare these two photos

crisp image http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png

fuzzy image

[underpants]

23. The original?

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png

[mkultra]

31. this pic = HRC bots owned

[Cha]

46. He looks way tired

..bless his sweet heart.

[Bucky]

64. That picture is pretty old

The image file I have of it was created on Dec 1.

[Cha]

93. I didn't think it was around

now but it was somewhere he was out and should have been taking a nap instead. :) I know how it is to have to be somewhere when sleep should have been the priority but NOOOOOOOOO!

[stellanoir]

16. He had to have quit

given the restrictions on inside smoking nowadays and how dogged he is by the press.

There is just too much at sake.

[Independent-Voter]

29. If he quit just before the primaries, he should be handed the nomination just for not killing

somebody by now! Nic fits are a bitch from what I understand. Dude probably is covered in nic patches!

[think4yourself]

44. That's what I thought too!

Nothing challenges you when you're trying to quit like STRESS. Can't think of anything more stressful! Hope he kicks the habit. I'm still tryin'. :(

[Moh96]

33. at least its not a Monica's flavor Cigar

[Bucky]

48. stop it

You shouldn't post rightwing smears while floating an Obama image in your sigfile. It's unhopeful.

[GoldieAZ49]

34. Cool, I am smokin too nt

[CRH]

39. Didn't Bill Clinton smoke cigars, or did he just use them with Monica? n/t

[Bucky]

45. stop it

[CRH]

79. OK,

but, underpants is a consistent Clinton poster, who wants a one sided smear. I personally could care less about which wins the nomination, but if HIllbots sling the garbage, they should be prepared to be answered with some documented facts.

[babylonsister]

49. I heard he quit-maybe from his wife? nt

[DJ13]

50. NEWS FLASH! PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SMOKING!

FDR.

Its a shame he wasnt a very good President.
:eyes:

[bunnies]

59. I fucking KNEW it was gonna be this shit again.

But I clicked on this damned thread anyway. Congratulations... you got me.

[Bucky]

66. have you seen this?

crisp image http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png

fuzzy image

[bunnies]

72. seen what? You're re-posting the photo in the OP. nt

on edit again: I edited the wrong post!

[Bucky]

90. No, look at both photos. The small crisp one without the cig & the blurry one with the cig

I was just pointing out that the picture with Obama smoking is photoshopped. The OP only posted the shopped pic of him "smoking" a cigarette that magically produces no shadow. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

[Hav]

96. .

Just for your information, one can't see the first pic as the site that you used to upload it doesn't allow hotlinking.
You may see it but the rest of us only gets a message that hotlinking isn't allowed.

[Bucky]

97. thanks. Is this one visable?

http://www.news.uiuc.edu/ii/04/0805/obama,barack_w.jpg.png

[Hav]

103. Yes, that one is working.

.

[bunnies]

106. Thank you for supplying the photo that debunks the smear pic.

Ill keep a link handy since it appears we're going to go through this on DU at least once a week.

[bunnies]

101. The poster above me has explained the problem.

I cant see the first pic either.

[underpants]

70. I WAS JUST ASKING

:shrug:

[bunnies]

78. Yeah. You and the other half million people who've posted this on DU. nt

[underpants]

80. I don't know about that

I




WAS





JUST




ASKING

[Renew Deal]

85. I've actually never seen it here before.

And Underpants is usually not a smear artist.

[Whisp]

102. BN: underpants just smeared himself.

:rofl:

[bunnies]

105. Well... heres last weeks version.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4391338

[Adelante]

109. I've seen it a dozen times

I always alert.

[Yael]

99. Nice photoshop -- here's proof

Its the same damn picture. Just look at the fold/button on his shirt.

[thereismore]

118. wow, just wow. nt

[MISSDem]

107. Puleeze! He is going to lose the election because he does/doesnot

smoke??? Anyway, George Bush smokes cigars, doesn't he?

[BigDDem]

108. He looks hungover

[Blue-Jay]

117. You post drunk

[MoonRiver]

111. IF BO gets the nom, McCain camp will be spreading this picture around as fast as the memes

about Obama's Muslim family connections, and his pal Rezko.

[Renew Deal]

112. How's that been working out for you guys?

:shrug:

[mod mom]

113. Tobacco is HIGHLY ADDICTIVE. SHAME on Clinton Strategist PENN for FIGHTING REGULATION!

"In '06, with Penn at the helm, the company gave 57% of Campaign Contrib to GOP"



Polling Czar



After the 1994 election, Democrats had just lost both houses of Congress, and President Clinton was floundering in the polls. At the urging of his wife, he turned to Dick Morris, a friend from their time in Arkansas. Morris brought in two pollsters from New York, Doug Schoen and his partner, Mark Penn, a portly, combative workaholic. Morris decided what to poll and Penn polled it. They immediately pushed Clinton to the right, enacting the now-infamous strategy of "triangulation," which co-opted Republican policies like welfare reform and tax cuts and emphasized small-bore issues that supposedly cut across the ideological divide. "They were the ones who said, 'Make the '96 election about nothing except V-chips and school uniforms,'" says a former adviser to Bill. When Morris got caught with a call girl, Penn became the most important adviser in Clinton's second term. "In a White House where polling is virtually a religion," the Washington Post reported in 1996, "Penn is the high priest."

Penn, who had previously worked in the business world for companies like Texaco and Eli Lilly, brought his corporate ideology to the White House. After moving to Washington he aggressively expanded his polling firm, Penn, Schoen & Berland (PSB). It was said that Penn was the only person who could get Bill Clinton and Bill Gates on the same line. Penn's largest client was Microsoft, and he saw no contradiction between working for both the plaintiff and the defense in what was at the time the country's largest antitrust case. A variety of controversial clients enlisted PSB. The firm defended Procter & Gamble's Olestra from charges that the food additive caused anal leakage, blamed Texaco's bankruptcy on greedy jurors and market-tested genetically modified foods for Monsanto. PSB introduced to consulting the concept of "inoculation": shielding corporations from scandal through clever advertising and marketing.

In 2000 Penn became the chief architect of Hillary's Senate victory in New York, persuading her, in a rerun of '96, to eschew big themes and relentlessly focus on poll-tested pothole politics, such as suburban transit lines and dairy farming upstate. Following that election, Penn became a very rich man--and an even more valued commodity in the business world (Hillary paid him $1 million for her re-election campaign in '06 and $277,000 in the first quarter of this year). The massive PR empire WPP Group acquired Penn's polling firm for an undisclosed sum in 2001 and four years later named him worldwide CEO of one of its most prized properties, the PR firm Burson-Marsteller (B-M). A key player in the decision to hire Penn was Howard Paster, President Clinton's chief lobbyist to Capitol Hill and an influential presence inside WPP. "Clients of stature come to Mark constantly for counsel," says Paster, who informally advises Hillary, explaining the hire. The press release announcing Penn's promotion noted his work "developing and implementing deregulation informational programs for the electric utilities industry and in the financial services sector." The release blithely ignored how utility deregulation contributed to the California electricity crisis manipulated by Enron and the blackout of 2003, which darkened much of the Northeast and upper Midwest.

Burson-Marsteller is hardly a natural fit for a prominent Democrat. The firm has represented everyone from the Argentine military junta to Union Carbide after the 1984 Bhopal disaster in India, in which thousands were killed when toxic fumes were released by one of its plants, to Royal Dutch Shell, which has been accused of colluding with the Nigerian government in committing major human rights violations. B-M pioneered the use of pseudo-grassroots front groups, known as "astroturfing," to wage stealth corporate attacks against environmental and consumer groups. It set up the National Smokers Alliance on behalf of Philip Morris to fight tobacco regulation in the early 1990s. Its current clients include major players in the finance, pharmaceutical and energy industries. In 2006, with Penn at the helm, the company gave 57 percent of its campaign contributions to Republican candidates.

-snip
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070604/berman

[Patsy Stone]

116. Was that taken at The Olive Garden?

I don't care if he smokes or not, because I'm a single issue voter. I am withholding my support until he clarifies whether or not he's bullish on kudzu.

[cooolandrew]

119. Monica, Bill ... cigars. It was a tlall order to quit smoking it's the most addictive thing going.