Pelosi: Don't let Michigan and Florida decide the election ...

[Alhena]

In a separate interview Friday with Bloomberg TV, Christine's mother, Nancy Pelosi, went a step further, arguing that the Florida and Michigan primaries shouldn't decide the party's nomination. "I don't think that any states that operated outside the rules of the party can be dispositive of who the nominee is,'' Pelosi told Al Hunt. She also addressed the power wielded by the super-delegates, dismissing concerns that they vote against the will of the majority of Democratic voters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/15/christine-pelosi-superde_n_86836.html

If there were any doubt they support Obama, this statement removes it. Pelosi will be chairing the DNC meetings at the convention, by the way, so she's no uninterested bystander. :)

[still_one]

1. Maybe it means that rules should be followed. It they want to seat MI and FL

do a revote, and the argument that it is too costly is nonesense, unless you believe that everyone's vote should count is nonesense

[Alhena]

2. Also, this statement makes it clear he will have her superdelegate vote ...

did, however, list different attributes upon which her superdelegate vote will be based: "Who is building a base of volunteers, who is bringing the party together - the best indicators of future performance."

- end quote -

Gee, now who is amassing the biggest base of volunteers among the two candidates? This is a tacit endorsement if I ever saw one.

[mac2]

3. Guess it's OK to pick a Bush In Florida

but not a Democratic candidate? Why negate their vote period? Is she not a democratic believer? Emmm like she gave Bush the election in 2004 before all the votes were counted?

[Alhena]

5. Florida was TOLD what would happen if they moved their election forward

but like a spoiled child who believes that he's too privileged to be punished, Florida did it anyway. Actions have consequences. Maybe Florida will finally learn that lesson.

[mac2]

25. 484 posts. Are you in the group to negate our votes

before the election even starts?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. For the last fucking time:

It was agreed upon beforehand!

[mac2]

10. Not by the party members but the few elite of the party

wanting to throw the election "selection". Whose fooling who about meeting a certain date, etc.? It's undemocratic and as a Democrat I'm outraged about the whole thing.

[Little Star]

18. And I'm with you mac2. 2000 redux by our own party.

sickening!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

19. The DNC is the party, for all intents and purposes, every two years.

Dean became chair of the DNC because of Dem individual's involvement.

Did you want a national primary on when to hold the pimaries?

The candidates, not the elite few, agreed to the terms beforehand.

[Little Star]

4. COUP!!!! This whole thing is turning into a coup.

Nancy will be ever so gently pushing every super-delegate in the house to vote for Obama. This whole thing is going to turn real ugly!
Do these arrogant asses think we are all to dumb to see this for what it is? They don't give a shit about qualifications, they just want to make history by giving this election to Obama. 2000 redux, except this time by our own party.

[Alhena]

7. LOL! Spoken from a Hillary supporter who was only TOO happy to let superdelegates

decide the election when it looked like they would decide it in their favor.

But a funny little thing about superdelegates- they can read these general election polls and decide for themselves who will bring new voters into the party and defeat McCain.

Superdelegates WILL decide this election- it's a mathematical fact. And there's no one in the country who has more influence over Democratic superdelegates than Nancy Pelosi- every Democratic House member is a superdelegate and subject to her influence.

[Little Star]

13. Link to where I ever said that. waiting.......

[JimGinPA]

9. Qualifications?

Oh, that's rich!

:rofl:

[Little Star]

14. Yes, name me all of Obama's please.

[mac2]

12. He's their tool

to get what they want. Seems they don't want a real Progressive like Kucinich or Edwards. The don't want the illegal wars to end nor the World Government plot stopped. A coup is exactly what has happened once again. Once again Nancy was at the front of it all.

We should impeach her and/or demand she resign as Leader of the House and party.

[Little Star]

15. MY point exactly. Thanks.

[loveangelc]

8. I don't think superdelegates will go against pledged delegates.

I doubt superdelegates will go against what the elected delegates say just because the clinton's will be unahppy...especially if they can't do anything about it if theyre not even in power after the superdelegates support obama, since he may have more elected delegates at the convention....

[Alhena]

11. Especially since the politics and the pledged delegate totals agree in this case

the hard decision would have been if the politics- i.e. who the stronger general election candidate was - and the pledged delegate totals were in conflict. Then there would have been some gnashing of teeth over whether the party could override the voters.

But the decision is easy now. Obama will have more pledged delegates- the Texas delegate assignment rules make that a certainty. And he's the better candidate politically.

Hillary is finished- it's over. It's just a matter of watching it play itself out - should be fun.

[Little Star]

22. Three names: Kennedy, Kerry, Patrick. They sure will!!!!

[loveangelc]

26. i mean the overall pledged.

[Purveyor]

16. It would be a diaster to wait until the very late convention date to select our candidate.

It is just over nine weeks from the end of the convention to election day in November.

The candidate must have their field operations up and running well before 9 weeks to compete effectively with the McCain camp, which will have all summer to establish their grassroots operation.

[mac2]

24. I'm sick of it. So are the Republicans I imagine.

It has been painful with loss of delegates, manipulation by the media, and our own party.

[4themind]

17. While I don't know who she's endorsing...

what I think is important is that she appears to to want to have everyone abide by DNC rules during the current election cycle, and agrees to the will of the voters in spirit. May the best canidate win!

[mac2]

23. What by negating a whole states delegates?

My e-mail to the ACLU regarding Leader Pelosi and secret organizations who determine our President, etc.

"ACLU lawyers. It's time to enforce the law regarding American citizens (unelected or un-appointed) meeting behind closed doors with foreign leaders regarding our future and agenda.

David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger seem to think they represent us in the world. They represent themselves and are hungry for power. It is not even in our best interest. We go to war and die and then pay for it. They are bankrupting us for their own profit. The European royals tell them what to do and how to control our media and candidates for public office. Is King George back in America? They are modern Robber Barons.

Another George GW Bush and his father's dream of World Government and the Americas Union before GH Bush's death. I heard GH Bush declare this at the 10th Anniversary dinner for NAFTA on CSPAN.

Educate the American public that the politicians (past, present, and future), bankers, industry heads, leaders of countries determine our future behind closed doors at the secret meeting for elites. It is not democracy but is very much Fascism for World Order government. David Rockefeller even said so himself back in 1972. It is treason. Certainly unconstitutional.

They are illegal organizations which I as a tax payer refuse to protect with my tax dollars. They remove my way of life and freedoms and I should pay for it? Whose approves this? We give them power by turning a blind eye.

Declare the following meetings undemocratic and illegal. Not worthy of our tax dollars or decisions since they are self serving for those involved. Even the citizens of the world's democracy don't approve of them. The protests are put down using our military, CIA, etc.

WTO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO Rule by the elite Europeans in Geneva. No wonder we haven't won a trade deal...ever.
The Council on Foreign Relations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations,
The Bilderberg Group http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group,
Trilateral Commission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission,
PNAC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC
G8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G8

UN Monetary and Financial Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Monetary_and_Financial_Conference Financial systems and world order government set up without citizen approval.

Leader Pelosi just strengthened the laws of private unelected or un-appointed citizens going and speaking with foreign governments in our behalf behind closed doors. Was that to keep Americans from doing good or as it is intended for Kissinger and Rockefeller like citizens? Pelosi betrays us by being a member of these organizations. I feel this is why she won't move toward impeachment of our criminal President. Could you point that fact out to her?"

Democracy is an open system. Even the President has no right to meet behind closed doors regarding our trade policy and laws. Congress' duty is plainly written in the Constitution. The Congress has violated their oath of office to protect the Constitution by not doing their duties.

[loveangelc]

20. Pelosi obviously prefers Obama. She won't publically endorse because it may hurt him.

IDK who dean prefers, i would guess obama too...

[Dogmudgeon]

21. Well, that will end the Pelosi hatefest at DU

Just waiting until Al From comes out and endorses Obama.

--p!