Why even watch Bill Maher when all he is going to do is bash HIllary

[cloud75]

i know it's great for you Obama supporters but come on get we get some fresh new jokes and analysis on things. It's all the same all day here's my day: At work on XM Ed Shultz bash Hillary turned it off and listened to music, came home watched Hardball bash Hillary, Tucker bash Hillary, Larry King bash Hillary, now Bill Maher and he's bashing Hillary. On line you all are bashing Hillary. There is more bashing of Hillary than there is praising of Obama. The only praise is that he has won these past 8 primaries and he drawing big crowds but nothing on who he is and what he has done to deserve all this praise...please don't start cutting and pasting all his accomplishments that is not the point of this post. My post is that most of the talk right now is the demise of Hillary and jokes about her. I'm tired of it. Let's take a closer look at the two candidates there are the only two left and there are still some who are undecided or just starting the tune in to the election and all they here is bashing of Hillary and jokes how can they make an important choice for president of the united states when they have to listen to garbage first. I'm pissed at the media they always let us down when we need them most.

[Captain Hilts]

1. I gave him up YEARS ago because he is a sexist shit. nt

[LulaMay]

2. I stopped watching him awhile ago because of his sexist remarks. nt

[journalist3072]

3. Don't forget to add Keith Olbermann to the Bash Hillary ground. He's really starting to turn me off

I subscribe to his podcast....But I'm seriously re-thinking whether I want to continue to subscribe to KO's podcast.

He's pimping for Obama big time.

[Dogmudgeon]

11. I'm not so convinced

I'm pro-Hillary, and I'm quite aware of the press' hatred for the Clintons, but Olbermann is not onerous in his treatment of HRC. I've noticed a few pro-Obama statements, but he hasn't exactly turned on the Clintons. Most of it is that he tends to let Obama's faults slide: Hillary attacking Obama is news and outrage, but Obama attacking Hillary is worth maybe a chuckle.

Of course, most of the MSNBC commentariat IS strongly pro-Obama, but that's another story.

Dan Abrams sticks up for Hillary quite often, except when she says something that's wrong, when he criticizes her, as well. He has a running segment about the bad statements each of them make.

The press has had an interesting week. They do not appear to know what to do. They know it's time to put more heat on BHO, but their long hatred of HRC blinds them. If they push too hard, they will push the Democratic party to settle early, and deprive them of their rightful ad revenue windfall.

The heart vs. the bank account -- the eternal dilemma!

But I could be wrong.

--p!

[JamesA1102]

32. MSNBC is pro-Obama now but wait until the fall

Matthews, Russert, Williams, O'Donnell, etc. will be telling glowing tales of Saint John McCain while letting the right swiftboat Obama.

[Johnny__Motown]

12. OK, Maher is an ass but Olbermann is a good guy, He is just calling it as he sees it

[truedelphi]

13. I have a different take - a different reason for deciding

To pull the plug on Olbermann.

He has that Feineman guy on - he's a Newsweek editor. And if you followed Newsweek in 2004 election, they always printed really crappy photos of Kerry and totally air brushed photos of Bush. And Feineman would have these articles lacerating Kerry - just very slanted.
Things twisted out of proportion, if Kerry sneezed there'd be a whole paragraph skewing Kerry as being unfit for the Presidency.

Why honor the man by asking his opinion, by constantly having him on as a guest.?

Tonight another KO guest said, Well, Obama is going to have to realize that there is a difference between what you tell the voters and what you need to do to get things to happen inside the Beltway. And KO never disagreed, jsut sat there like, yeah Politicians don't need to represent the citizenry anymore, they need to do thie Beltway shuffle.

Oh reallY? Why? I think the mood in this country is that our Next President needs to realize that the citizens are fed up - just fed up beyond belief with the Same Old Same Old.

[LulaMay]

15. Agreed, all of MSNBC bashes her. It affects the race without doubt. She is still ahead

in Ohio, Penn, and Texas though.

[scheming daemons]

Your experience is all you need to know....

...about why Hillary is unelectable in November.


If you want a President McCain, then vote for Hillary.


Everything you typed about the "bashing" Hillary is getting is all the evidence you should need.


Obama will beat McCain. Hillary will lose to McCain. All the objective evidence (polls) shows it... all of the anecdotal evidence (listen to your friends and coworkers) shows it... COMMON SENSE shows it.


She has record-high negatives.... and simply will not be able to pull out a November victory. And even if she did, her negative coattails down ticket would likely cause the Dems to lose the house and/or senate.

Hillary Clinton is a disastrous candidate for the Dems to nominate this year.

[cloud75]

10. in my humble opinion all the negatives are trash...if you are against

nafta or pissed because of the war vote or some other policy then okay don't vote for her but 90% of that stuff on tv is b.s., cheap garbage. And by the way if we lost the dumb ass bush twice (four times if you are from texas like me) i wouldn't be so confident that it's in the bag for anyone (clinton or obama) in the GE.

Good Luck

[Dogmudgeon]

4. Bill Maher is all about being hip

Since Obama is the hipster (intellectual yuppies') candidate, he's going to bash Hillary.

Whomever he supports, his obsession with staying hip and producing crowd-pleasing one-liners is not attractive. Or enlightening.

Before the bashing starts: Yes, I'm sure there are Obama-bashing comics, too. Though from my experience, most stand-up comedians are profoundly reactionary.

--p!

[bluedawg12]

27. Maher is only for Maher he is seriously in it for just laughs

he's a laugh whore.

[cbayer]

29. Yeah, that's what you do when you are a comedian. nt.

[Birthmark]

5. Maher is an idiot.

I watched him about twice before reaching that conclusion.

[Olney Blue]

6. The op-ed page of the Washington Post today was brutal.

anti Hillary

[Altec]

7. It's kind of ironic...

In his stand up act Bill Maher: The Decider, he praised Bill Clinton, and also said there was no way Clinton/Obama could be a ticket. He also predicted Rudy would be the next President.

Funny, how times have changed and how he has jumped on the bandwagon.

[Cha]

8. Obama's the best and I'll tell ya why..

<snip>

What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear - I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the President today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings. You want a fight, President Bush?

http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php

[Oskie]

14. So why'd he campaign for pro-war Lieberman in '06? That was an

opportunity to stand up for what he says! To walk the talk...and he DIDN'T do it! That speaks volumes.

[Cha]

19. Why did Ned Lamont endorse Obama?

Because he knows he the best candidate in spite of him endorsing lieman in the Conn primaries.

[AtomicKitten]

9. Oh for crissakes the man has an opinion -- You have an off button. Use it.

[LulaMay]

17. What are you, a censor? OP can express their opinion about his sexist crap.

[AtomicKitten]

18. ah, quit your sniveling

it's becoming tiresome

[Beststash]

16. Obviously the writers are

back. I thought this was his best show of the season so far. I did thing it could have been a Obama commercial but whatever...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. I loved it when they asked the audience who they liked and Obama

won hands down. California must be having buyer's remorse.

[Eurobabe]

21. Bill Maher's show has sucked this season

I thought it was because of the writer's strike. We'll see if it improves.

[cbayer]

22. Switch to public radio and TV

Morning edition, All Things Considered, BBC World News, News Hour - all very adult and appear to me to be unbiased.

[Bitwit1234]

23. Lets take up a collection and send him

an oversized cod piece they think that's what make a man...

[beachmom]

24. Maher likes Hillary, and says anyone who hates her is the one with the problem.

He just happens to think Obama would be the better choice.

[DiamondJay]

25. this is the same loser who actually voted for BOB DOLE

and I was forgiving him by watching for the last 4 years, but i've had enough irrational clinton hating myself now.

[bridgit]

26. Agreed. Schultz should just admit where he stands, callers call in (one today) with rather...

specific info on just where & when he's played favorites while trashing Clinton. His standard MO seems to be to stridently condescend in the course of impugning the IQ of his listeners while stepping on their points. Though on Hardball (he's also been eating out of Matthew's hand of late) today it think it was; Matthews introduced him as one that has not been easy on Clinton and he just sat there grinning smugly like the cat that just ate the canary. He wasn't about to shout down Matthews, he likes the money & attention too much.

I do think it's time to end all the acrimony. I recall just a few short months ago, we were all saying that our candidates had more class & experience in their pinky fingers, than the entire republican field head to toes...that was clearly not our thought all along if reading this forum is any indication.

Who were we trying to fool all along that we we able to coalesce round a common good? Ourselves?

No need to answer...it seems clear we were only fooling ourselves.

Agree about Maher as well, I'm finding him less & less funny.

[cbayer]

28. I just got to watch it and laughed my self silly.

C'mon!!! He's a comedian for god's sake.

[dysfunctional press]

30. why answer your own question right there in the subject line?

:shrug:

[JimGinPA]

31. Maybe I'm Wrong...

But it seemed like the whole show tonight was more about talking up Obama than making fun of Hillary. Maybe it's just a perspective thing for me.

[JamesA1102]

33. Maher is becoming the type of mediawhore he said he hated

He has Frank Luntz on and presents him as an unbiased pollster when Luntz is really a GOP operative. He also puts on Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone who like Maureen Dowd professes to be a liberal but spends all his time attacking Democrats.

[BlackVelvet04]

34. I won't be watching him again....

I'm canceling HBO....I only had it to watch Real Time but I'm sick of his misogyny.