Clinton rally overflows at Brush High School

[Algorem]

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/02/ap_photocarolyn_kasterhillary.html


Updated at 11 p.m. Friday

http://blog.cleveland.com.nyud.net:8080/openers/2008/02/large_crowd.jpg

...Clinton's Lyndhurst rally drew diehard supporters along with a crowd star-struck at the chance to be near a celebrity and to be a part of the election process. So many people flocked to the school that traffic backed up on Mayfield Road, parking lots were gridlocked and people parked on side streets.

Lines grew so long two hours before the rally that they had to be shifted, frustrating those who lost their choice spots. After packing the gym, the crowd spilled over into the school's performing-arts center and cafeteria, where they watched on closed-circuit television.

U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, who has accompanied Clinton across the state this week before finally bringing her to her district, introduced Clinton as "my candidate" and the oft-repeated "next president of the United States" with a throaty roar.

Clinton, flanked by retired Gen. Wesley Clark and a cadre of Ohio politicians, peppered her speech with shots at the Bush administration, decrying reckless spending, having two oilmen run the White House and a culture of fear and fatalism...

[Skip Intro]

1. "the candidate of, from and for the middle class of America" - nice. Go HIllary!

[chascarrillo]

2. I'd like to see those tax filings.

C'mon, really - this faux populism is so... well, faux.

[Skip Intro]

4. An Obama supporter using "faux." C'mon, really.

[rodeodance]

7. ~~cricket, cricket~~

[Straight Shooter]

10. Please. You know if she released them, they'd be nitpicked to death.

Then she would be spending all her time explaining what every little line item meant. This is the same ploy that was used by the right wing when they demanded that Kerry release all his military records, which he also refused to do.

Remember Whitewater? Thousands of hours and people poring over documents and finally, the Republican in charge of the investigation said, "Whoops. Our bad. Nothing there." And the right wing snickered, because they'd won; they planted the seed in the American public's mind that there was corruption, but there. was. nothing. there.

Some games aren't worth the time it takes to play them.

[Skip Intro]

18. A fishing expedition on the part of the Obama campaign. How much did he pay for that halo?

I wonder.

[Straight Shooter]

25. I don't know, but pretty soon he's going to need something for that halo.

[chascarrillo]

72. Then why did she say she'll release them in the General Election?

[KittyWampus]

77. Erm, No. This is more like Kerry released HIS tax returns. And eventually Teresa's as well.

Did the GOP go over Obama's and Kerry's tax returns?

Has Clinton found anything on Obama's tax return?

[BlackVelvet04]

83. You missed the paper again......

[rodeodance]

90. OH MY --that is GREAT

[BlackVelvet04]

100. Feel free to use it....

[rodeodance]

105. Thanks--

[chascarrillo]

92. Do you think that a multi-millionaire is "middle class"?

Just askin'.

[in_cog_ni_to]

111. ROTFLMAO!

:rofl::rofl:

[ingac70]

6. Wellesley Young Republicans...

Hillary's mates when she was in college.

http://usliberals.about.com/od/liberalpersonalprofiles/p/HillaryClinton.htm

"She was a Goldwater supporter while in high school, and was President of the Young Republicans at Wellesley College."

[Skip Intro]

16. Oh, Ok.

Good lord, you guys are like mosquitioes

this was a thread about a crowd Hillary drew, and it's become an all out bashing of her

it boggles the mind

[bigtree]

20. Hillary at College

. . . looks so republican :eyes:


-- An undated photograph of Hillary Rodham, center, during her days as a student at Wellesley College, from 1965 to 1969.

"My mom could not live my life; father could not imagine it
I was not born a first lady or a senator. I was not born a Democrat. I was not born a lawyer or an advocate for women's rights and human rights. I was not born a wife or a mother. I was born an American in the middle of the 20th century, a fortunate time and place. I was free to make choices unavailable to many women in the world today. I came of age on the crest of tumultuous social change and took part in the political battles fought over the meaning of America and its role in the world.

My mother and grandmothers could never have lived my life; my father and my grandfathers could never have imagined it. But they bestowed on me the promise of American, which made my life and my choices possible."


"In 1972, I returned to D.C. to work for Marian Wright Edelman. My assignment was to gather information about the Nixon Administration's failure to enforce the legal ban on granting tax-exempt status to the private segregated academies that had sprung up in the South to avoid integrated public schools. The academies claimed they were created in response to parents deciding to form private schools; it had nothing to do with court-ordered integration. I went to Atlanta to meet with the lawyers and civil rights workers who were compiling evidence that proved the academies were created solely for the purpose of avoiding the constitutional mandate of the Supreme Court's decisions.

As part of my investigation, I drove to Alabama. At a local private school, I had an appointment to meet an administrator to discuss enrolling my imaginary child. I went through my role-playing, asking questions about the curriculum and makeup of the student body. I was assured that no black students would be enrolled."


"My first article, titled "Children Under the Law," was published in 1974 in the Harvard Educational Review. My views were shaped by what I had observed as a volunteer for Legal Services representing children in foster care & by my experiences at the Chil Study Center in Yale-New Haven Hospital. I advised doctors as they tried to ascertain whether a child should be put into the child welfare system. I come from a strong family and believe in a parent's presumptive right to raise his or her child as he or she sees fit. But at Yale-New Haven Hospital, I saw children whose parents beat and burned them; who left them alone for days in squalid apartments; who failed and refused to seek necessary medical care. The truth was that certain parents abdicated their rights as parents . . .


"My eight years in the White House tested my faith and political beliefs, my marriage, and our nation's Constitution. I became a lightning rod for political and ideological battles waged over America's future and a magnet for feelings, good and bad, about women's choices and roles."


excerpts from, 'Living History', a memoir written by Hillary Clinton

[rodeodance]

42. "I came of age on the crest of tumultuous social change"--yes. she did. yes

[Window]

71. I like to see pictures of Hillary's early life.

Let me say upfront that I'm an Obama supporter.

That being said, I really admire Hillary Rodham Clinton. She is highly intelligent and gutsy. I truly wish she had run for President in the 2004 election and won.

Even with *ush and Diebold, I don't think Hillary would have just bowed out and let them steal the damn election --she's much too tough for that.

After her two terms, it would have been Obama's turn. *Sigh*





Peace:thumbsup:

[bigtree]

76. thanks for the kind words. I, in turn, would like to say that Obama is a good Democrat

and a gentleman. I would be more than glad to work to see him defeat the republicans as our nominee, if it comes to that.

And, I really like this shot of her. It's such a cool time warp.

[Window]

79. You are welcome and thank you also.

I hope we can all come together and work really hard to prevail in November.



Peace:thumbsup:

[in_cog_ni_to]

112. Look at THIS picture! She was just as beautiful then as she is now.

:)

[rodeodance]

31. another cricket--repeating the same ol garage day after day wk after wk --no creativity-

just the same ol crap--

[BlackVelvet04]

102. ooops, you, too..............

[HeraldSquare212]

85. I don't undrstand that - I'm middle class, but I"m not looking for a candidate who will only work

for me. we're a community, not a group of self-interested blocs looking for advantage over others.

[rodeodance]

88. Hillary inspires many --as does Obama from all walks of life.

[Johnny__Motown]

3. A high school.. really? wow, 2,500 people all in one place. well good for her, she has improved

[loveangelc]

5. lol

[rodeodance]

44. kick you outta here.

[rodeodance]

12. Hillary is into talking serous issue--not SWOONing the crowd for the media.

[rodeodance]

14. "Vote for Hillary! " came a shout from the audience.~~ YES PLEASE DO~~

[Straight Shooter]

19. That's because she's Teachin', not Preachin'

"Reverend" Falwell sure packed the stadiums, too.

[rodeodance]

24. :-)

[Johnny__Motown]

27. So why are supporters bragging about this crowd? make up your minds please

[Straight Shooter]

39. I'm not bragging. I like small venues, up close and personal.

Like I said, it's nice to know she's Teachin', not Preachin'

Speakin' of preachin', I don't think even Jesus ever drew a larger crowd than 5,000. He got his message across :)

[Johnny__Motown]

40. I was talking about the original post, "bragging" that a high school overflowed

[Straight Shooter]

43. But you responded to my post.

So I responded to yours.

:hi:

[rodeodance]

89. Its the headline from the newspaper.

[CalGator]

68. you must like 35% of the vote, too -nt

[rodeodance]

45. Why are you ASSuming anyway is? --go find something to whin about

[CatnHat]

67. I like your comments , Straight

Rev. Obama sure does fit. He just might want to make a career change. :rofl:

[Window]

69. LOL! I was waiting for that one.

Peace:thumbsup:

[OzarkDem]

73. Should have held it at CSU Convocation Center

They would have been able to accomodate everyone. Sounds like they had at least 2-3 times the number that would fit in the HS.

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8. You'd think Hillary supporters could have a thread where Oduers didn't just piss all over it.

You'd think it, but you'd be wrong.

I just looked down a long thread praising Obama, and almost no replies dissing him. Can't remember one. I'll get the link in a minute.

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4611900&mesg_id=4611900

And this thread was six replies long when I started this post, and there were like six replies dissing the hell out of Hillary.

What the fuck is that?

That's the difference between the candidates, and the type of support they inspire here.

Hillary supporters refrained from crapping all over that Obamafest thread. Obama supporters can't wait to do so on this thread. It's called respect vs. disrespect..

[JimGinPA]

13. Could You Provide A Link To One?

I'm sure I haven't seen any.

[Skip Intro]

21. Yes I can. Here: "Obama basketball pics" - link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4611900&mesg_id=4611900

[JimGinPA]

30. Thanks nt

[rodeodance]

22. I started two positive threads today on Hillary and they were POOPed repeatedly by Obambabies

who could not control their mockery and hate for her.!

[Cha]

36. But, Obama supporters can't have

a thread without smears and jeers from the hilarys and yet you're hypocritically calling for this.

[rodeodance]

38. your groupie generally does more and you know that.

[Skip Intro]

56. Have a look at this thread and get back to me, ok?

this thread we are posting in right now started as a thread about Hillary drawing a crowd at an event - that was all there was to it - and within minutes, the attacks began to fly

now look at this thread, about Obama. The gushing is nauseating. But do you see one swipe at Obama from a Hillary supporter. Even though this was probably one of the most hero-worshipy threads to come along in a while? Nope. Not one.

Here's the Obama thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4611900&mesg_id=4611900


That is the point. In this context at least. Hillary supporters aren't out there attacking. Obama supporters are. For no reason. Look at this thread. Hillary draws a crowd. That's it. Look what happened.

Only the Obama crowd attacked.

[Cha]

110. Same thing with fucking

hilarys on a positive Obama thread.

[OzarkDem]

74. They don't have anything else to do

apparently this is a full time job for some of them.

[rodeodance]

9. HillaryL Let's go make history together."---YOU GO GAL~ YES YOU CAN~ YES WE CAN~

She closed with this question:

"Will you be ready to take back our country starting March 4? Let's go make history together."

[MadBadger]

11. Wow...overflowing at a high school

[rodeodance]

15. such a PARROT you are---someone upstream beat you to it--be original

[Skip Intro]

35. yikes

that's all I can say at this point - did you just kill a talking point?

[rodeodance]

37. another hit and run Obamakid

[rodeodance]

17. Clinton, flanked by retired Gen. Wesley Clark!-- WHO--Wes was there YEAH

Clinton, flanked by retired Gen. Wesley Clark

[bigtree]

23. Kick for Clark!

yeah!

[rodeodance]

33. and a shout out for WES

[rodeodance]

26. "I'm bullish on America. I think our best days are ahead," Clinton said.

"I'm bullish on America. I think our best days are ahead," Clinton said. "We need a government that will stand up for the working people and the middle class."

She proposed changing the tax code so companies would not be rewarded for shipping jobs outside of the U.S.

This hit home for Gene Steele, president of the United Auto Workers Local 856, who cited Meggitt Aircraft Braking System's recent announcement to shift hundreds of jobs from Akron to Mexico. "She got to the core of the problem this country is facing," he said.

In the morning, Clinton showed her grasp of details, easily reciting facts and figures on subjects from foreclosure to foster care at a round-table session at a Skyline Chili in Cincinnati

[Algorem]

28. traffic chopper was showing the line on ch. 19 woio news this after-

noon,that was one long line,they didn't show the end of it i think, it just went on and on and they cut to something else

[rodeodance]

32. glad to hear that the local news picked it up thanks

[LadyVT]

29. whoo hoo!!

[rodeodance]

34. NEEDS SOME recS

[Yossariant]

41. Just did. Needs more.

:woohoo:

[rodeodance]

49. ~ALL FIRED-UP FOR THE LADY~ YES SHE CAN, YES WE CAN~

[Yossariant]

52. What a great picture of America!

:patriot:

[rodeodance]

86. Yes it is.

[BlackVelvet04]

108. done.....n/t

[rodeodance]

46. WHOW---U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, --INtroduced Hillary

[Tarheel_Dem]

64. stephanie tubbs jones?

:puke: a woman i used to have a great respect for.

[rodeodance]

91. So many people are dissed just because of who they support. Shameful

Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-16-08 02:45 AM
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65. stephanie tubbs jones?

:puke: a woman i used to have a great respect for.

[bigtree]

84. She's a fantastic person and a great legislator.

nice to see her on Hillary's side.

[rodeodance]

96. that poster said she used to respect Tubbs-Jones. but.........

[rodeodance]

98. "I am thrilled to have her as my friend and as a strong supporter in my campaign."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/15/670365.aspx

"She is somebody who goes to bat for what she believes in and I am thrilled to have her as my friend and as a strong supporter in my campaign."

[Tarheel_Dem]

114. yeah, well i hope ms. jones doesn't find herself on the wrong end

of a nasty primary battle in her district. just ask al wynn. by the way, his challenger was an obama supporter.

[rodeodance]

47. Clinton's Lyndhurst rally drew diehard supporters along with a crowd

Clinton's Lyndhurst rally drew diehard supporters along with a crowd star-struck at the chance to be near a celebrity and to be a part of the election process. So many people flocked to the school that traffic backed up on Mayfield Road, parking lots were gridlocked and people parked on side streets.

[ErnestoG]

48. Hillary is pulling a small percentage of the Obama arena draws!

And I'm sure that keeps her up at night....

[bigtree]

51. and she's still leading in polling there

maybe the size of the crowd isn't the measure of Obama's appeal in Ohio

[ErnestoG]

53. you mean like Obama's leading in delegates?

oh yes, tha's right....

[bigtree]

54. no, in the polling. consistent lead.

[ErnestoG]

55. Oh, polls. like the ones in NH, etc. LOL

[bigtree]

59. no. just the ones in Ohio.

[ErnestoG]

62. Selective poll advocacy! Nice

[babylonsister]

50. From the article, 2,500 people - that's impressive. Wow.

Clinton, who spoke in Cincinnati and Akron before an evening rally that brought more than 2,500 people to Brush High School, declared herself the candidate of, from and for the middle class of America.

[rodeodance]

93. Yes it is.

From the article, 2,500 people - that's impressive. Wow.

Clinton, who spoke in Cincinnati and Akron before an evening rally that brought more than 2,500 people to Brush High School, declared herself the candidate of, from and for the middle class of America.

[TexasObserver]

57. Lesson One in putting on candidate events: get a small venue if you can't draw big crowds

High School?!

Obama draws tens of thousands to his events, while Hillary struggles to get 3000.

Most political observers understand that is a barometer of voter excitement or lack thereof.

[Name removed]

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[MadBadger]

60. Thats why when she comes to Madison on Sunday, she is speaking at a place that may hold 5,000

She could speak at the Kohl Center, where Obama packed 20,000 in for his victory speech on Tuesday. The building is open. She could even speak at the 10,000+ Arena at the Alliant Energy Center, but I guess even that is too many.

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61. Maybe she should get Oprah to fill some seats?

[MadBadger]

63. Maybe..cuz Obama doesnt need her to fill em.

[TexasObserver]

66. Hillary needs events with Obama so she can draw an audience over a few thousand.

[catgirl]

80. She has Bill to do that

except, he's a liability. Oprah has grace.

[TexasObserver]

65. All Hillary has left are Illusions and Delusions. Hence, small venues.

Poor thing.

[rodeodance]

101. That's because she's Teachin', not Preachin'---from another supporter -but fits here also

[rodeodance]

95. Hillary likes to really talk WITH the people--not merely SWOON the audiance.

[Renew Deal]

81. Tell them that doors open 2 hours early

and open doors 1 hour early. Instant line.

[Perry Logan]

70. (Sound of Obamites squirming uncomfortably.)

[workinclasszero]

75. Wow!!

Hillary sure filled up that High School alright.:evilgrin:

Obama supporters are shakin in their boots!:rofl:

Whats next? Comedy clubs? Small theaters??:scared:

[rodeodance]

106. Several Obama folk have already mocked that issue--Got anything original?

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77. Wow!!

Hillary sure filled up that High School alright.

[sueragingroz]

78. It's getting to the point where I can't look at Obama's face

Not because of what Obama says or does, but because of what Obama supporters on this board who use his picture as an avatar say and do...

Is that a way to win votes?

[catgirl]

82. LOL, how the trolls fool you

these threads are crawling with trolls. Obama's supporters, like Obama himself,
have integrity. The offensive posters on DU that pose as Hillary and/or Obama
supporters are acheiving their goals with some of us-getting their goat.

It amazes me that some DUers don't see through this. Let's not be so gullible
and play into their hands. And no need to bash real Obama supporters (and
vice versa).

[boston bean]

94. Why don't you call out these alleged trolls, instead of calling out their online victims! nt

[sueragingroz]

107. oh i get that.... I was making the point to the "true" supporters of Obama

That they shouldn't be allowing this sort of behaviour....

You are right... we are wasting our time with these people...

[rodeodance]

87. KICK for the morning crowd

[ericgtr]

97. Self delete

[rodeodance]

99. Nice---Now go start your own Obama thread--

[ericgtr]

103. It was in bad taste, I admit

not very cool on my part, I will self delete.

[rodeodance]

104. Thank you.

[BlackVelvet04]

109. K&R n/t

[rodeodance]

113. K for the mid afternoon crowd

[ORDem]

115. It was dishonest of you not to note the crowd size. Guess you

might be feeling a little insecure? :dem: