More misogyny? Was Obama dogwhistling about Hillary "periodically" feeling down?

[Karmadillo]

http://www.correntewire.com/stay_classy

Stay classy...
Submitted by lambert on Fri, 2008-02-15 20:37.

AP:

“ I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she’s feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal,” he told reporters.

’Cause you know how women are….

Driven by feelings…. Worried about their appeal… Prone to tears… The whole phases of the moon thing…

And did you catch the dogwhistle in “periodically”?

more...

[GodlessBiker]

1. Ah...yeah...right.

[lisa58]

2. oh, spare me

[MethuenProgressive]

That one is as old as dirt. "She can't do the job, because she's Female"

You'd think someone who claims to understand oppression wouldn't stoop that low.

[Inuca]

7. Another completely mindless comment n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

15. Obama said what he said. Not "mindless" but intentional anti-female code.

What would his mother say?

[Inuca]

42. Just curious...

Are you male or female?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

43. My husband actually caught that one, LOL.

The pronunciation was what did it.

But, that said, he also has such excellent enunciation, he makes the English most of us speak sound garbled. It reminds me of the late Senator Dirksen, another compelling speaker, who hovered on every word.

How can really know? And, there are WAY more important things upon which to focus.

[EmilyAnne]

32. But Obama didn't say that.

[Inuca]

3. You just CAN'T be serious

Completely insane!

[KittyWampus]

4. Well, she did well up with tears before NH... and then attacked Obama in the next sentence.

[Adelante]

5. Stoopid nt

[Kittycat]

6. You're joking - right?

That's a CLINTON tactic. Bill or Hillary. That's just what they do.

[NYCGirl]

8. As a woman who's very close to Sen. Clinton's age, I can tell you that "periodically"

no longer figures into anything. I think even Barack Obama realizes that.

[Hepburn]

19. Ditto.....speaking as a female only one year younger than Hillary.

The OP has to be one the the stooooooooooopid-est ones I have ever seen!

Sheesh...there are REAL issues out there, why this???

[shain from kane]

38. He's a politician, not a biologist. n/t

[NYCGirl]

54. I do believe that non-biologists are aware of that fact.

It's gotten a lot of press in the last 100 years or so.

[shain from kane]

61. C'mon, I laughed out loud in disbelief when I heard it. Perhaps he's not a politician either, since

he insulted over 1/2 of the population with his remark.

[NYCGirl]

71. Really? I am not insulted. NT

[shain from kane]

82. Ok, more than 1/2 the population, minus one. n/t

[NYCGirl]

87. You might want to subtract all the women who voted for Obama so far, too. NT

[shain from kane]

93. No one's voted, since he stepped in it. n/t

[NYCGirl]

97. Okay, let's see what happens. BTW, he's almost neck and neck with Clinton

with women.

[shain from kane]

105. Yeah, he's quite a racehorse. n/t

[sniffa]

112. Yeah he is

but make sure you check his teeth before buying him. :eyes:

[Enrique]

159. lol

you have a way with words. :-)

[Melinda]

9. You failed to close the quote, thus leaving the impression Obama said something he didn't...

Period bullshit. Shame on you.

link to real statement in context, and article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080216/ap_on_el_pr/obama


During a news conference, he was asked about Clinton's accusation that he watered down a bill regulating the nuclear industry. He pointed out that Clinton is criticizing him for a bill she voted for and touted on her Web site.

"I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal," he told reporters.

At a subsequent rally at the downtown Midwest Airlines Center, Obama brought up her latest criticism of him as someone who gives a good speech but doesn't have much action to show for it. Clinton told voters in Cincinnati Friday, "This primary election offers a very big choice to the voters of Ohio. You can choose speeches or solutions."

"She's right," Obama said in Milwaukee. "Speeches alone don't do anything. But you know what, neither do negative attacks."

[Jai4WKC08]

164. That's not true

Read your own post. The quote, in its complete form, is "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal."

If there were more to it, it's not reported here. Everything that follows in your news article was said on a different day and really isn't relevant that I can see.

Obama said what he said. I'm sure it's precisely what he meant.

[AngryAmish]

10. This is a parody

[0007]

11. Get back on your meds and stop your silly shit before you find

your address at some loony bin.

[jackson_dem]

136. The kool aid gang strikes again. Karm's post is more legit than the "fairy tale" bs

[Freida5]

12. I heard that and I thought the same thing. I then said "he could not be that sexist, could he?"

[MethuenProgressive]

17. He's not sexist. He just plays one on the campaign stage.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

62. Obama Campaign Threatrics with Oprah the Coach

http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=91

[chimpymustgo]

98. Obama was choosing his words VERY carefully, injecting his sexist comment with cool precision.

His speech was halting, he was thinking about every word. And he knew he was calmly calling Hillary an emotional, hysterical bitch.

Is is so disheartening that people are not astute enough to catch this - or refuse to - or don't care.

[Riktor]

155. And let me guess...

... that scene in Huckleberry Finn -you know, the one where Tom and Jim are floating down the Mississippi River in a dense fog- is really a metaphor for gay sex, right?

Proof positive, if you read something with the intention of finding a specific thing, you're going to find it whether it is there or not.

[Freida5]

13. I heard that and I thought the same thing. I then said "he could not be that sexist, could he?"

[MaineDem]

14. Good lord!

Let's grasp at a few more straws while you're at it!

[Barack_America]

16. Could you try to save your venom for the GOP? Pretty please?

This comment is unlikely to apply to a 60-year old woman. So, nice try, but no fucking way.

[MethuenProgressive]

18. I wish Obama would, but he's not like that.

He'll say anything, do anything.

[Barack_America]

34. I can't see you.

Sorry.

[shain from kane]

67. So men are articulate, but women spew their venom? n/t

[Barack_America]

68. I do not know the sex of the OP. n/t

[kikiek]

20. Sure sounds like that is what he is implying. He is intelligent enough to know he should watch

his words and their implications. It is certainly something his opponents are being held to.

[IndianaGreen]

21. More bullshit from Hillary's brownshirts

You can't defend your evil queen on the merits of the argument so you resort to the 2000 Rovian tactic of calling everything "being mean to Bush."

[jackson_dem]

137. Karma is a bitch. I hope Obama gets swifboated as a sexist after what he did to the Clintons on race

[Renew Deal]

22. He also said "she feels down every 28 days or so."

Actually he didn't. But that's how ridiculous this is.

[Kahuna]

153. Snarf! Hillary stopped feeling down every 28 days or so some time ago, I'm sure.

nt

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. Obama uses code all the time.

Codes regarding race, religion, and gender.

[Renew Deal]

45. Watch his twitch

1 twitch is misogyny. 2 twitches is racism, 3 twitches is gay baiting.

He's also clicks when he speaks.

[Evergreen Emerald]

79. actually: it is right out there for everyone to see.

Of course, you must take off your rose-colored glasses.

[sueragingroz]

24. she's post menopausal...

Either he's stupid or he thinks that his supporters are stupid... to try and insinuate that she suffers from PMS.

I know he isn't stupid.

[Hepburn]

27. LOL...excellent reply! n/t

[Renew Deal]

46. How do you know that?

And why do you know that. :scared:

[sueragingroz]

51. cause she was born in 1947?

:banghead:

[Renew Deal]

56. I understand that

I just don't even want to speculate on this.

[uberblonde]

59. Oh, you've never heard men make cracks about menopause?

We must not live on the same planet.

[sueragingroz]

76. Thank you for proving my point /nt

[shain from kane]

64. So she no longer has to use birth control. That answers that question. Boxers or briefs?

Thong or granny pants? Pill or condoms?

[sueragingroz]

77. Thank you as well /nt

[Jamastiene]

134. Zing!

This one is dead on. Bravo.

[jefferson_dem]

25. Good one.

:spray:

[pdxmom]

26. Holy cow! I can't believe how this is being twisted. It's clear to me that

he's not talking about feelings, but about being down, like in the polls. People are just actively looking for anything they can think of to smear.

Next he'll use the word "run" in a sentence and someone is going to call him sexist because he's obviously referring to the fact that she wears pantyhose.

Sheesh!

[ecstatic]

63. That was my take also regarding his usage of "being down" nt

[Jai4WKC08]

165. He didn't say "being down"

He said "feeling down." You don't FEEL a position in the polls.

Obama meant what he said. He's a smart guy. He's trying to reinforce how many people already feel about women in positions of power.

[tammywammy]

146. That's how I read it as well

[Eurobabe]

28. Another Hillbot bites the dust. C'ya!

What crap, I can't believe you posted this slime.

[DemGa]

29. What a snide comment

The backstabbing of Hillary by validating right-wing attacks did it for me -- but makes his snideness all the more sickening.

[gaiilonfong]

30. corretewire are HillShills

They have been smacked down by various gay groups and hate-speech watchers for hateful anti-gay rhetoric, even though there are some gay writers, the women writers on their are especially homophobic!
They make taylor Marsh look sane!

[rox63]

31. Puh-lease!

:eyes:

This is the most ridiculous charge I've heard so far coming from Hillary-supporters. I think even she'd laugh in your faces if you told her about it.

[stillrockin]

33. Pure b.s.

[Maribelle]

35. I can't believe he said that.

This is truly shameful.

[DemBones DemBones]

36. Not surprising -- look how sexist his supporters are.

Sexism has always been a problem at DU but it's mushroomed since the race narrowed down to Hillary and Barack.

They've added ageism, too, and anti-Boomerism, when Obama himself is a Boomer.

It's depressing that sexism is still so prevalent among people claiming to be liberals or progressives who support Democrats.

[EmilyAnne]

48. I'm sorry that you feel this way. I've seen some sexism here and it was one of the reasons I was

almost too afraid to sign up. Still, I am not sexist and many other Obama supporters on this board aren't either. I understand if you don't like him, but please don't feel that gender equality isn't important to a lot of his supporters.

[hiaasenrocks]

50. It doesn't stop there.

The Obama campaign is engaging is acts of anti-Panthera-leo-ism. Of all the times Obama has been on stage, all the interviews he's done, and in all the commercials, not once, NOT ONE SINGLE TIME(!) have they appeared with or even acknowledged the existence of lions. Have you noticed the bigotry?

[blonndee]

126. "It's depressing that sexism is still so prevalent among people claiming to be liberals

or progressives who support Democrats." Indeed, there are plenty of people who really ARE sexist here. Including those who are sexist enough to deny a woman's right to choose. Right?

[Schema Thing]

37. Senator Obama, added "sure, when we spot her....

....down days coming, we can sort of pad ourselves from her moody attacks, or otherwise try to stem the flow of negativity coming from her, but in the end, or damn close to it, it's during those periods that I worry about the country becoming a bloody mess".


meh, seems totally innocent to me :shrug:

[LizW]

85. LOL!

That's funny.

[TheDonkey]

132. YOU BAD!

:D

[Dr. Strange]

151. Please...

stop ragging on Obama.

[NJmaverick]

39. More racism? Was Hillary dogwhisting when she attacked Obama

as a coward?

[Marie26]

40. I'll say.... yeah.

Not as a "dog-whistle" thing, but more about the way men can be unconsciously dismissive of women. This was actually about her statement that he watered-down the nuclear energy bill to satisfy his big nuke donors - this is a very valid issue, one that the NY Times just wrote an article on. But rather than address the allegations, Obama goes the other route: "You know how they are, so moody, so irrational..." And then whine about negative attacks. Which is a pretty good way to duke the charge.

[chimpymustgo]

108. Thank you, Marie26. I tried to explain upthread. Obama was choosing his words VERY carefully.

He haltingly, carefully called Hillary an emotional, hysterical bitch.

It's win/win for Obama: he ducks the issue, he calls Hillary and emotional, hysterical bitch. And he divides Democrats AGAIN, trying to discern just what he meant. This dude continues to scare me.

People please. WAKE UP!!!! Please look at this pig in a poke you're rushing to buy.

In the full interest of disclosure - and to deflect the inevitable slurs - I am not a Hillary supporter.

[tishaLA]

116. How do you know it was halting or careful?

Have you heard him say it? Can you point to the video of the event? And, when you say "pig in a poke," aren't you just trying to rehash the vile anti-Israel sentiment that has been falsely attributed to Sen Obama, with the "poke" as a subtle form of misandry?

[Marie26]

129. He's good.

Yes, Obama is very careful with his language. He knows how to play the music & hit just the right note. Here, he's diverted the reporter away from the actual question (nuclear ties), to a different question (Is Hillary a bitch? Why is she being so negative? Why is she losing?). He doesn't really care if a reporter follows up by asking if it was sexist (unlikely), or follows up on the other themes he's suggested. All that matters is that he's changed the direction of the questions onto a different route. I bet he didn't get a follow-up question about the nuclear bill. It's like pointing & shouting "Look, a pony!!" The media gasps and swivels - "Where??" and the hyperactive media runs off to the next cool topic. It's sort of scary how good he is at manipulating the media.

[Tactical Progressive]

141. He's only good at manipulating a media already against the Clintons

You think his snide smears are going to play against McCain like his misogynistic disdain does against Hillary?

What do you think is going to happen when he smears a Publican with a sly remark that he's used to getting away with against the Clintons?

Think Publicans will let it slide? Think the media will protect Obama when the Publicans go after him?


Democrats are confusing Obama's skills with a media establishment that pretty much sanctions anything that will help stop a Clinton from running things.

[Marie26]

144. I honestly don't know

I keep thinking the media will hold Obama accountable... any day now... and it never happens. The old razzle-dazzle keeps working. Will the media fall out of love w/him when he faces McCain, or will he still get the same treatment? I can totally see the media still protecting Obama to an extent - "Why is that mean McCain attacking?" But they used to love McCain too. Who will win the media's heart? "The Maverick" or "The Inspirational Hope?" Gosh, it's better than the Bachelor. My money's on Obama - McCain is old news to them. And I'm not an Obama supporter. But IMO the media has chosen their favorite candidate & that's not going to change anytime soon.

[Tactical Progressive]

152. They probably would support Obama

if this was in a vacuum. I get the same feeling as you. They like Obama and McCain, with Obama more.

But one thing they always do - is cater to the Publican perspective.

Just picture something negative like the drug use question. What happens when the right is bringing that up, asking exactly what drugs and how much for how long, and how did he afford all of that cocaine as a young man ... was he selling drugs to support his habit? What do you think the media will do, dismiss those questions when they keep being brought up? With Hillary they could slam her as hard as they want for being 'negative' and cutthroat blah blah.

With the Publicans it won't be any such thing. They media will be ready to talk about 'values voters' who believe in 'family values' and how isn't this a valid concern of people who care about their children, and what do they tell their children, and what about this poll that says that 72% of voters think it is 'a concern' or 'important' whether a President has been a drug addict. And when Obama's numbers slip they'll talk about it all over again. This could happen on any number of issues real and fabricated, and with Obama's smart-ass shitmouth there will be plenty of opportunities. I wouldn't be surprised if he unites Publicans even more than people fear Hillary might, with his combination of ego and low-road tactics.

I keep saying this - the media is protecting, coddling and promoting Obama against the Clintons; even more - they are going way past credibility and even civility to 'Gore' the Clintons, even to the point of projecting Obama's race-baiting onto them.

When it comes to Publicans however, the media isn't going to protect Obama from anything more than the most outrageous claims, let alone coddle or promote him.

[EmilyAnne]

41. Is one of the writers for The Onion behind this allegation? This is bizarre. Sexism is unacceptable

and I have seen it rear its ugly head many times against Hillary Clinton. Here? I just flat out do not see it. Has anyone seen a video of this statement, by the way? I would really like to hear it in context and hear his tone.

[Windy]

44. Hillary is LONG PAST PMS!!! Jesus people, quite trying to make something out of nothing.

Its the issues stupid!

[LizW]

89. Oh, come on!

Do you really think most people weigh whether Hillary is post-menopausal or not when they hear that kind of stuff?

It hits on an almost subconscious level. Woman=periods=down days=moody=unreliable=unpredictable=can't be trusted with the Presidency.

The really sad thing is that it probably wasn't even conscious on Obama's part -- it is deeply ingrained sexism.

[hiaasenrocks]

47. Folks, this has to be satire.

Because no one is stupid enough to really believe that.

[K Gardner]

49. Get a grip and stop parsing every word to try to inject "sexism" into it. Maybe its just a counter

to Hillary's repeated comment that "He must be frustrated".. because you know young inexperienced men get "frustrated" quite often.

Give me a BREAK !!

[babylonsister]

52. Lame and weak. He was responding to her; if she can't stand the heat,

as has been said by her, she should get out of the kitchen. Painting this otherwise won't change that.

[formernaderite]

53. periodically when I'm feeling down....I eat a lot

is that something to do with my male character? hmmmm...nahhhh

[Sulawesi]

55. I am a man, can I not feel down?

[BlackVelvet04]

57. Not surprising...

what do you think that whole "I can't keep my desk straight and find papers" comment was all about?

[uberblonde]

58. Classic dog whistle.

Come on, he knew what he was saying. EVERYTHING a candidate says is carefully vetted!

[skooooo]

60. lookin' for sexism...

...when there ain't none.

[shain from kane]

65. Look, she's been called a bitch all across the USA. Remember Newt Gingrich's

mother. It was bound to enter the political campaign. Previously it was addressed or buried as "her negatives". I have heard her being described as "remember your first wife".

[IronLionZion]

66. Desperately crying wolf now aren't you?

You lose your own credibility and trivialize real sexism.

Women support Obama. His rallies attract thousands of women of all ages. Women across the country have voted for him and caucused for him. He is married to a strong smart independent woman who he respects deeply. Obama is going to win the nomination and the general election...because more women will support him over John McCain.

Maybe you should find those women who support Obama, and tell them he's sexist. But thanks for the laugh. As if we don't have enough bullshit here already.

[ginnyinWI]

69. I saw this as a critique of Hillary's temperament

People have seen a bit of her temper in the media, and he was calling it to attention some more. I always get the feeling that she is a very angry person behind the scenes, prone to yelling and dressing-down her employees. It flashes out occasionally.

He was trying to show how she lashes out at opponents because she's angry that she's as behind as she is. A hot temper is not the right temperament for the Presidency.

[workinclasszero]

70. Jeez what a stretch....

I guess when your candidate is losing on the issues, you just make up stuff outta whole cloth, eh?:eyes:

[MethuenProgressive]

72. ObamaBots cheering Obama's intentional use of sexist code words?

The same ones that EXPLODED over "spade work" and "cake walk"?
Hypocrite, thy name is ObamaBot.

[NJSecularist]

73. Some people will stop at nothing to feel offended

And it's a damn shame.

[indimuse]

74. Obama's "Shield....RACSM!!!"

Give me a break...MSM...All Hillary supporter...Anyone and everyone is accused of RAcism IF YOU DISAGREE with Barack and Michelle Obama! On Ed schultz..Randi Rhodes...people are talking about his advantage of "Race"...and he he can use for his advantage a way HIllary can't...That's SICK! Yet has been his Modus Operandi since the beginning!!! AGAIN Sick! This will backfire!

[Occam Bandage]

75. Oh Jesus Christ, this OP is pathetic.

[RiverStone]

95. Pathetic and desperate...

The irony is, calling Obama a woman hater only further erodes any credibility the poster has.

[blogslut]

78. Give me a break

No, seriously. Take a break from your hate. It must be exhausting. I know it is for me.

[beachmom]

80. No. She did, after all, cry before NH -- that's kind of "feeling down", isn't it?

And it was quoted in a NYT column that Obama sympathized with what she was going through, when she cried.

Sorry, there is no there there about this remark.

[mohc]

81. I'm pretty sure by periodically he meant

every Tuesday, you know after another primary defeat....

[MadBadger]

83. I hate you.

[Karmadillo]

119. I love you.

nt

[Buzz Clik]

84. LOL! How do YOU spell desperation? m-i-s-o-g-y-n-y

[Auntie Bush]

86. It's funny how quickly Obama supporters are to read race into every little comment.

Like totally abandoning the Clintons for mentioning fairy tale and MLK. But, somehow are totally blind to seeing/hearing misogynistic comments. If Obama was a black woman...I can just imagine the hate filled pages that would be posted here. Half or more would probably be deleted. I guess that's what blind bias following does for one.

How come when the Clintons say something they are accused of planning EVERY word to have some less obvious sinister meaning and are calculating...but when Obama says direct obvious things...they are dismissed as, "Oh he didn't say that or mean that...you're just imagining things" Give me a brake!

[Barack_America]

88. "Shuck n Jive" = uncommon expression. "Periodically" = ridiculously common expression n/t

[Jai4WKC08]

163. Hillary didn't say "shuck and jive"

In fact, no one in her campaign said "shuck and jive." Andy Cuomo wasn't even one of her surrogates.

But the words that she was only attacking because of "periodically... feeling down" (instead of having a valid point) came right out of Barack's own mouth. As did the idea that she only served tea in the White House. And that "her claws came out" when she attacked his record. And probably half a dozen other sexist bullshit stereotypes that he's spouted throughout this campaign.

But hey, that's just the way things are, right? We women are just too touchy. We need to quit playing the gender card. No harm no foul. Isn't that how the story goes?

Maybe he's expecting her to iron his shirts.

[Name removed]

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[globalvillage]

91. No, but I heard him talk about 'change'

Clearly sexist and ageist.

He should also steer clear of the words cycle, moon and curse. And he numbers 2 and 8.
That last part might be difficult given the current year.

:eyes:

[miceelf]

92. LOL

That's pretty good parody of false accusations of sexism against Obama.

Bravo!!!

[JVS]

94. Pre-Election Syndrome

[npincus]

96. oh, BROTHER. That site you reference is rabid-anti-Obama.

You've gotta be kidding.... that is dopey to the core.And not in a 'periodic" manner.

[Hatchling]

99. It wasn't just the words, which are bad enough,

it was also the way he emphasized them. After the phrase "periodically, when she's feeling down" (pause) the audience chuckles here because they do get what he is saying, then he goes on the finish. His audience got it, why don't some of the other pepople on this thread get it?

[DefenseLawyer]

100. Obama was over the line

when he said that "Aunt Flo" was Hillary's new campaign adviser and then did the old Eric Idle "wink wink nudge nudge" bit. I was outraged.

[boston bean]

101. Is there a video someone can point me to? TIA

[Karmadillo]

128. Here's a link to the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qNpeGPdhEw

[Marie26]

135. That clinches it for me

"She periodically (pause) when she's feeling down (pause for chuckles).

[WillyT]

102. And Sometimes... A Cigar Is Just A Cigar

Thank you Dr. Freud



:wtf:

[Colobo]

103. Oh, please... looking for sexism where there is none.

[JimGinPA]

104. That's It...

Keep throwing shit against the wall, hoping something will stick.

[dailykoff]

106. I heard more of a crack smoking gangbang than a dogwhistle,

but that's just me. :shrug:

[RunningFromCongress]

107. OMG you have to be kidding me

[Seabiscuit]

109. All of sudden Obama is Dr. Phil ... I wish he would shut up with the sexist statements.

Lets talk issues please!!! I want to hear more about the healthcare proposals, education, foreign policy ... etc.

[Political Heretic]

122. He'd have to start making them first before he could stop.

[SOS]

110. When all else fails, consult dictionary

OED:

periodical
noun
a magazine or newspaper published at regular intervals.
adjective
occurring or appearing at intervals; occasional : she took periodical gulps of her tea.
• (of a magazine or newspaper) published at regular intervals : a periodical newsletter.
DERIVATIVES
periodically adverb

Occasionally, Clinton launches attacks.

Can't figure out how "phases of the moon" figures into this, unless it's a reference to Corrente's (occasional) howling.

[LordJFT]

111. wow can you turn any comment into something sexist?

[sloppyjoe25s]

113. You maybe need to talk to someone?

Seriously - I think you are a little out to lunch on this one.

Perhaps "projecting"?

[crawfish]

114. big eye-roll.

Yeah, I SURE that's what he meant.

And he was right...she reacts to failure badly, by attacking both external and internal targets.

[Beausoir]

115. He knows what he's doing with comments like these. Pretty greasy.

More pandering to the lowest common denominator from Obama.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

117. The funny thing about dog whistles is that only dogs can hear that pitch.

No one else notices.

2+2=?

[apocalypsehow]

118. Oh, good lord. The microscopic parsing of words looking for the "gotcha" moment never stops

Silly. :eyes:

[Vinca]

120. He was responding to Hillary's "words are cheap" speech and

I think he was very restrained about it all. She was particularly nasty at that event. All I could think of was my long dead stepmother who I despised.

[Political Heretic]

121. If you turn your head sideways, stand a mile away, wear special lenses, squint and pray....

...you can almost totally still not reasonably see that quote they way you are desperately trying to.

[TheDonkey]

123. LMAO! DU:Primaries has just jumped the shark

[Cha]

124. You're pathetic and more

than a little bit desperate. Obama is being kind..I would have a lot more to say about hilary and her fucking, bogus, lying attacks.

[cottonseed]

125. The period before each big vote after seeing her poll numbers.

I think that may be what he's referring too.

[JimGinPA]

127. You're Right, They Should...

.

[CitizenLeft]

130. I saw that video snippet 3 times...

...and each time, he pauses at "feeling down..." and each time, I took it to mean "down IN THE POLLS." And each time, I waited that heartbeat of a moment for him to say "in the polls." Because that's the most accurate timing in terms of evidence - when she's been down in the polls. That IS when she attacks, as do all candidates when they're "down."

Period. And I do mean "period" as in "." ... and nothing else.

Cripes.

End of story.

I have been on the fence for a long LONG time, because I believe that both Hillary and Obama are equally competent and would both make great presidents. But you people are pushing me towards Obama.

[jenmito]

131. No. She's been periodically down in the polls/primaries/caucuses.

Why do Hillary supporters reach like that? :eyes:

[jackson_dem]

139. I thought she lost 8 in a row?

Why do Hillary supporters react like that? The same reason Obamites do the same when Ed Rendell tells the truth.

[jenmito]

149. She DID! All in a matter of 5 days! But she WAS up-after NH, NV, FL (for some reason), and

after Super Tuesday when she was bragging about winning her "home" state of NY and CA.

[bridgit]

133. He may as well have just said she was being hysterical, I find such aspersions low-road...

borderline sexist...as was mentioned about him on News Hour, "Occasionally your shoes get wet from walking on all that water."

[jackson_dem]

138. Karma is a bitch. He and his cronies swiftboated the Clintons on race with BS

Hopefully he gets his just desserts and gets swiftboated back as being a sexist. Maybe Hillary can get to 85% of the female vote after this. Obama would be done then. :rofl:

[Bicoastal]

140. That wasn't as bad as the next thing he said....

AP--"'Occasionally Hillary sheds her uterine lining into a conveniently placed sanitary napkin," said Senator Obama, "and that may also affect her decision-making process.'

He then knelt down on his musalla, or traditional prayer mat, and prayed silently to Allah for several minutes."

:eyes:

[SKKY]

142. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

:yourock: Easily, one of the funniest retorts I've read in a long time!

[tammywammy]

148. bwahahahaha

I just spit up my water!

[Orangepeel]

143. Oh, c'mon. I'm a woman and I had to read your post 3 times before I got the pun

It's highly unlikely that this was intentional. And, if it was, it was way too subtle to be effective.

[Moochy]

145. The Misogyny defense!

Brilliant! I counter with the two finger eye-poke.

[QC]

147. At least he didn't accuse her of having "that not-so-fresh feeling."

[Kahuna]

154. LOL! But bad.

:P

[NMMNG]

150. Obama is very good with various types of "code speak"

This time it was the sexist bullshit. Usually it's the evangelist/RRRW style language that they're tuned into. He is indeed a gifted orator and with that comes the ability to use words to his advantage--and others detriment.

[Kitty Herder]

156. For pity sake....

Talk about a tempest in a teapot. And I tend to be very sensitive about such things. But this is reaching.

[usregimechange]

157. Then he implied that she should be at home bare foot and pregnant when he said, "Yes we can."

[Perry Logan]

158. I'll bet he lost millions of voters with that mean-spirited crack.

[Iceburg]

161. He lost 3 generations here -- all progressive -- My Grandfather, me and my son!/nt

[Perry Logan]

162. Wow.

[Enrique]

160. possibly

:shrug:

[VotesForWomen]

166. well, she's just an emotional woman. you know how men are all rational and stuff... nt